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Griswold -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/19/2008 5:36:35 PM)

Here's mine:

Monday:  Big Mac, Coke....coffee for breakfast....beer for dinner.
 
Tuesday:  Quarter Pounder for lunch, coffee for breakfast....beer for dinner.
 
Wednesday:  3 Double burgers....coffee for breakfast...beer for a snack....
 
Thursday:  Fish sandwich for lunch, 2 small fries....coffee for breakfast....beer for late lunch.
 
Friday....Beer for lunch, 2 small burgers, coffee with beer, Crown Royal for a snack....beer for late lunch.
 
Saturday:  Beer.  More Beer.  Beer after that....occasional beer.  Beer to take the chase off....beer after that.
 
Sunday:  Beer.  Beer.  More Beer.  Some more beer.  Beer after that.  A few more beers.  A beer or two.  Beer.
 




dollparts85 -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/19/2008 5:39:11 PM)

LOL nice, Gris.




Termyn8or -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/19/2008 9:33:45 PM)

This is a jumpthrough, but I want the OP in the next window. This is to the OP, I will get to the rest later.

First of all I do not think you are eating too much. If your serving sizes are normal that is a pretty sparse diet and at the very least you should not be gaining weight.

But there are some things lacking. Notably meat. If you are a vegan or vegetarian there are workarounds. Also if you eat eggs you might want to eat a bit more of them. I also did not notice any nuts. Although I do not eat them like I used to, I really do believe that they helped me.

Your diet seems quite lacking in minerals and I would recommend a supplement but not everyone absorbs them the same. You might just piss them out in the morning.

Lowfat and fatfree are no good. What most people don't realize is that fat in the diet does not equate to fat on the body. It simply does not work that way. Some essential nutrients are only fat soluble, and also there are others that require the presence of fat to be properly metabolised by the body.

Unfortunately what you think is logical is not working, but with all 'they' throw at you, you make logical conclusions, but with the wrong input, the output will be wrong.

One good thing I see is that the only sugar you get is in a few cookies a week. So you indulge yourself once in a while, while for myself I cut them out, but I am not going to ask anyone else to do it.

I would like to know what you mean by goulash that has been purged.

You need some sources of protein and some minerals. I would suggest meat. If you don't really like meat at least some fish and/or more chicken every week. Try to get fish from the ocean, not farm bred or fresh water fish. Shrimp is actually good for ya. Other days you can do eggs. But every day have a source of protein. The fish will be better in minerals, the chicken if you'll eat it will provide protein, almost complete protein. Between the two they are valuable.

I looked back now and see you are not a vegetarian, but this still applies, nuts are very good for you. Peanuts are soso, but if you get Planter's mixed nuts, the other nuts in there have different and better mineral contant. I say Planters because they use peanut oil, not hydrogenated. Hydrogenated is bad, very bad.

So step up the chicken and eggs, and get SOME red meat. I used to be the red meat freak of the world, but I have moved away from that. If you can't stomach fish, we can probably get you through on chicken and nuts.

I would also highly recommend, if you can get it, unrefined seasalt. I mean totally unrefined. It is not the easiest thing to get anymore and is expensive, and I believe there is a very good reason for that.

The fatfree ranch should go. Learn how to make your own dressing. Anything fatfree should go, remember fat does not stick yo your ribs, the carbs do. Your body produces the fat, it is not simply pumped into your blood from your stomach.

Another thing is spices. They are very good for you. Let's put it this way, you have say a pound of broccolli. Looks good, nice and green, surely it has nutrients in it, would seem a lot more than a potato, and that is correct. However a handful of mixed nuts has more. What's more a tablespoon of the right spices has even more. I can send you what I've saved from the USDA database if you like.

Of course I usually do go in this direction when it comes to a chronic condition, which is what it is. But in your case with thyroid problems I think it more important for you to get the 'signature' so to speak, of nutrients in your food.

Stay away from anything lowfat or fat free, it simply does not work that way and it makes your body hunger. I don't think you eat too much, in fact I think you should include more, in the way of things that are high in nutrients.

If you like ranch dressing (I do) it has to be limited, read the ingredients and you might agree. In fact guar gum is something to avoid. It is tolerated so there is no need to cut it out entirely but it is prime for reduction. As such, since I like ranch as well, I have an alternat recipe that is healthier and you might REALLY like it. I am not saying it is the best thing in the world for you, but at least you know most of what's in it.

Alot of people who like ranch also like creamy Italian, but there are the same nasties in it, so......

Get a bottle of regular Italian and a tub of sour cream. DO NOT shake the dressing. Put the approximate amount of dressing you want in the bowl, just the sour cream. Pour the oil off the dressing and the bottom part with all the spices, add it to the sour cream. You add it to taste.

Thing is I have done it the other way, adding sour cream to the dressing (bottom) and always come up with too much.

Like I said if you like ranch you might like it. If not, well it was an idea.

Also, when you eat that chicken, sometimes at least bake or broil it with the skin on. You might not want to eat the skin, or if you're like me the crunchy parts of it, and if it is fatty don't eat all of the fat, but do eat some of it. Just a little.

There is one thing I learned, the body adapts and changes to be more efficienct in absorbing minerals that are deficient in the diet, at least as long as it can. The thing is you are giving it so little now it is simply not enough. Minerals are highly important to any glandular function, and the thyroid is definitely among them.

And one last thing for now. Do not change your diet abruptly, and don't expect results overnight. Do not be surprised if when you incorporate these changes that you temporarily gain a few pounds. But you don't let that get out of hand of course. If you gain weight every day after two weeks, cut back. We might need to delve into the problem more deeply. You may have a malabsorption problem, and if that is the case it must be dealt with differently. We'll burn that bridge if we come to it. (love using that saying)

You have to go by how you feel. If you make these changes and don't even lose any weight, but you are generally less hungry or have more energy, something is going right. Within two weeks you should notice a difference. Don't expect positive results anytime sooner. You should feel good, if not you might have to make some adjustments.

Now I am going to get back to the thread and see what everyone else had to say. We seem to have attracted some attention. I'll be back.

T




Termyn8or -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/19/2008 11:14:44 PM)

Gris what brand of beer ?

Rule I want to read your book or at least your dissertation.

Doll, well didn't get that part before. Sexual abuse, especially if it was in early life is not something that can be handled here. Even on the other side. I'm good, but not that good, I have no point of refernce, then the gender gap, and who knows the circumstances. You would have to pretty much write a comlete biography before anything I could say to have any real meaning. A Man's got to know his limitations.

I could give general advice, and if you wanted to open up and share the horror, I would be a good listener and while that might help a bit, I am nowhere near being able to do anything really meaningful. The mechanics of your abuse don't matter that much, only in degree. What is important is your attitude towards yourself and the assailant. Perhaps the damage is done to your body, all we can do now is to try to help that. You are hearing the same things from totally different sources, one of which is that you need more protein. I would consider that very carefully. And protein does affect the mind, which does affect the glands. So even if you are not going to listen to me, perhaps you should listen to all of us, including your own nutritionist from what you yourself have said.

As far as the abuse issue, I'll say tyhis ; There are alot of real assholes in life, you ran across one of them and let yourself become a victim. Being assailed or assaulted, even battered is not the issue. The issue is what it does to you, and with strength you get past it. It is still there forever, but it is your attitude about it that needs to change.

What happened happened, but it is in the past. Are you being abused NOW ? (I mean not by choice). You should be relieved, it is over. That does not get YOU over it, but at least it is over. So many issues to consider, and I really can't help much. But realize this, have you sexually abused anyone ? (we got a thread with this sub-subject in it right now actually), you have the self control not to abuse correct ? (except consentually) You are up a notch on the food chain IMO.

And others might not have the emotional fortitude in the intestine like me (does that mean head up my ass ?). In my family if one of our Women were raped, of course there is a convalescent period, we are not made of stone, completely. But after a while the attitude would be "Are you going to let this piece of shit ruin your entire life ?".

This is part of why I can't really do much. We were taught differently. I don't know if you can get anything out of this or not, we were taught certain things, even the girls, how to step back from things.

One day on the phone it's my Uncle, two words "Grampa's dead". There were years in my life when I was closer to my Grandfather than my own Father. Quite a few, and early in life, like from eight to twelve. Something like that. My Uncle knew that, and yet I was expected to take that. I am not saying I did not cry, but I did not do it on the phone nor in public.

That is how we are, that is how our ancestors were, and I believe it to an asset, to be so stoic. When I got shot in the face, Dad's in the hospital room "An inch higher and you would've lost n eye", I said "Shit, this wrecked my whole weekend". That is how we are, we do not allow victimization. Our minds are trained not to let it happen.

I took my time learning, and now I know I can't expect other people to be this way. This starts from birth. I only mention it because if you believe it, and I do not lie, maybe you can also understand that only you make you feel what you feel.

Well there are exceptions if you include physical sensations. My Father used to like to play with th stove as a little kid, this can of course be dangerous. Grandma took his hand over the fire until he screamed bloody murder (at least by our standards). She didn't injure him but the heat was felt and he then understood the concept of hot. I guess he wouldn't stop doing it, and that was a last resort. Grampa knew all about it and didn't say a word.

It didn't make my Father a victim, he has been an avid cook and rarely eats out. He has more different spices than I have seen in anyone else's kitchen, in fact I built the rack which spans a couple of feet with four shelves, about deep enough for the containers to have a front and back row. And there is a method to how they are arrainged, but I digress. It did not cause a phobia or anything in him, as me getting shot, I love guns. Wish I had one that day.

Anyway, if you want to try directed dreaming, I can attest to it's effectiveness. It is a process and must be explained fully, and it is also a judgement call as to whether or not you want to do it. This would be way too long for this thread but I am looking at my clock and thinking about whether I have the time. I would start another thread about it, I could put it in an email but I think I would rather make it public. Well, CM public.

It's only a little after two, I'll see if I can do it.

T




angelikaJ -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/20/2008 3:26:40 AM)

I_agree_that_fat_free_everything_can_get_you_into_trouble...
some_fats_you_need
The_ones_that_contain_"essential_fatty_acids"_you_need_those...
either_from_a_supplement_or_a_food_source.
(Some_people_find_that_fish_oil_capsules
[if_you_don't_eat_much_salmon_etc]
really_helps_aches_and_pains_and_such.)




Rule -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/20/2008 4:45:46 AM)

Excellent posts (123 & 124), T.
 
My book is not completed, yet. Have not worked on it since December 2005. Hope to start wrapping it up shortly. I need it to provide me with some revenue. First, though, I have got to complete my tax forms. *sigh*




dollparts85 -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/20/2008 4:51:49 AM)

I get a lot of protein...usually over 80 g per day. You do not need to eat meat and eggs to get protein. Milk products have a ton of protein. Everytime I eat cottage cheese, thats 48 g of protein in one go.

My nutritionist says that low fat and fat free milk products are the healthiest b/c they have the most protein, so I am just listening to her.

I don't eat salad a lot (don't really like it much) so the few times a month that I *do* eat the ff ranch, is not going to make a big deal. And I like it so thats all that matters to me.

I do eat fat...it's not all fat free and low fat. I am supposed to stay under 35 g of fat per day. I don't eat nuts anymore b/c they were making me gain a lot of weight. They taste really good and I don't have self control to eat only like what...1/3 cup is a serving, I think? I can so sit and eat an entire bag of trail mix (dried fruit and nuts mix) LOL I am trying not to buy the foods that I binge on...until I learn self control, at least.




camille65 -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/20/2008 6:09:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dollparts85

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ORIGINAL: camille65

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ORIGINAL: dollparts85

I don't like spices...I need my food very very bland. My stomach is sensitive. I can't even use black pepper.
 Most herbs are not at all spicy. Try some.


like what?
 Like just about every single herb.Tarragon. (good with fish)Basil.        (good with chicken)Oregano.   (good with beef)Thyme.      (good with chicken/fish)Rosemary.  (good with chicken)Lemongrass.(good with chicken/fish) http://www.revolutionhealth.com/healthy-living/food-nutrition/kitchen/get-cooking/?s_kwcid=TC-3979-149015358012-S-12577456512 Go to that site and spend a few minutes. It is specifically for those that are a bit scared to cook or don't know where to start. It really is time that you learn how to cook and prepare real meals for yourself. 




Rule -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/21/2008 12:02:17 PM)

FR
 
Sander Weijers, researching at the Universiteit Maastricht, discovers that some people can loose weight by suffering from cold.




dollparts85 -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/21/2008 2:42:13 PM)

Rule, you should really learn the difference between "lose" and "loose" [;)]




Rule -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/21/2008 3:37:16 PM)

Oops. A grammatical error. I am not a native speaker. Usually I catch them before posting, or edit out them after posting, but that one slipped through.
 
There are some words that I always or very often have to look up in my dictionary, like the word "welcome"; for some reason I am never sure if it is with one or two l's.




Termyn8or -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (3/21/2008 9:25:38 PM)

Camille is right about spices, there are some that are not all that spicy. They impart a delicate flavor when used judiciously.

Thyme is good on pork and chicken
Onion and garlic powder are good on almost anything, to taste of course
White pepper is good on chicken
Ground fennel is good on pork
Mrs. Dash is very good on alot fo things.

In fact Mrs Dash can make it so you don't have to go shopping for all these spices. Lemon or orange zest are very good on pork, poutry and fish. It's in the Dash, some varieties anyway.

None of these are really spicy, they impart a subtle flavor. It should not bother you as long as you don't use too much.

Worth considering. More later.

T




L8bloomer -> RE: I have been asked to post a weeks worth of what I eat... (7/27/2008 3:42:22 AM)

I hope no one objects to my resurrecting this thread, but I read through  it and wanted to make a couple of comments/questions.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

... Fat cells on the other hand do produce the stress hormone cortisol. ...


Would you please cite a source for this bit of information? As far as I learned in school, cortisol is produced by the adrenal glands.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

I think that in principle there is nothing wrong with your body, but that its biochemistry has been derailed.


Isn't that a contradiction?

No offense Rule, but it comes across as irresponsible to make some of the statements you have made when you are not privy to this girl's complete medical background.

dollparts85: From what I understand, you would need to consume 2 cups of cottage cheese to get the equivalent of 48 grams of protein. Are you certain someone isn't leading you astray about the amount of protein in certain foods? ;) And your daily intake of 80 grams does sound rather high, although what you described in your weekly diet doesn't comprise that amount of daily protein. Some of the advice offered here does sound good. My wish for you is to get back on track with your health. I hope your health advisors are able to do this in the best possible way for you.

There is one thing I agree with Rule on...the power of positive thinking...to think of your goal as being slim and healthy rather than thinking "I don't want to be fat anymore". It isn't easy, which I know from experience because I'm trying to change my own way of thinking. But when you can make it happen, it really can make a difference. When your mindset is different, you see the world a little differently. I know this sounds overly simplistic and from what you've shared on here, it sounds as though you have had (and still have) a lot to overcome. But as the saying goes, the journey of a thousand miles starts with one step. So even those things that seem small and insignificant will help towards your ultimate goal. I wish you well on your journey.






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