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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/22/2008 6:13:21 AM   
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this would be great for a hidden camera show.  :-)  hehe

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/22/2008 7:05:03 AM   
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Hey all,
I was here browsing around at profiles tonight and I came across a big surprise. One of best friends' husband has a profile on here obviously looking to cheat on her.  I know she is totally not into this stuff, she thinks I'm nuts. I know she has never said anything to her husband about my lifestyle and she is pretty vanilla. They haven't even been married for a year yet.  Do I say something to her?  I'm almost tempted to contact him (not telling him who I am of course) and see just how far he would really go. Find out if he would really cheat on her or if he just has some closet fetish and needs a place to vent.    I've met lots of married men on here before that are just looking for cyber but most of the time they're looking for r/t.  Has this happened to any of you?




What do you say to her?  Nothing.........however, mailing her a copy of his "resume" anonymously might be a good idea.  That way she can't come back on you about being the whistleblower when/if they work out their problems.




Since the OP has stated her friend is aware of her kink ("she thinks i'm nuts") i think sending his profile anonymously would not fool her for a heartbeat.
Otherwise it would be an awesome idea!!!!

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/22/2008 8:13:02 PM   
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I would soosoo  forward the info!!! I'm such a bitch

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/22/2008 9:49:28 PM   
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Some questions here..


I'm holding a sharp knife and standing near someone. Does this make me a murderer? An attacker?

I talk about robbing a bank. Does this make me a bank robber?

I set up a CM profile saying that I'm looking for male submissives but require a tribute. Does this make me a financial Domme or Pro-Domme?

If the answer to any of the above questions is yes, where's the proof?

A profile is really nothing more than an intention. To be guilty you need to have committed the act.

Muttling makes a very good point - there's something suspect here.

How so?

I only have a couple of really close friends. I know them inside out. If they were in a relationship or marriage I would know all about that too. It's their relationship or marriage, not mine. Invariably I would also be a friend of my friend's partner.

I would know what to do, I would know what to look for, when to do something, and who to approach. If I didn't, I would go to another friend, or someone I could trust and find out what they think.

I would not need to ask strangers on an internet forum for this advice.

I would assess the risks and the situation. First thing I would approach the person behind the profile. 'Nice profile' I would say. I would get their side of the story first. This would help me decide what to do next.

If I wasn't happy, I'd take it further - bearing in mind that all along I'm most loyal to my friend, but I'm respecting the sanctity of their relationship. I'd look for proof. I could set up a false profile, false name, get more information via messages. Arrange a meeting.

Only then when I had proof would I go to my friend. Then I would leave it with her, but be there if she needed me.

But if it was just on the basis of a profile and I knew they were happy together I wouldn't do anything.

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/22/2008 9:51:19 PM   
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i hope He doesn't give the wife a sexual disease whether Dom or not..

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/23/2008 12:33:14 PM   
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The Internet has fried many people. I wonder who would have stats on that. LOL

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/23/2008 3:08:02 PM   
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I've read through the posts, digested the many points of view from everyone that has contributed. One thing that still has yet to be addressed:

Why on earth does a person feel the need to 'police' another's relationship, whether they be a friend or simply an acquaintance? I cannot help but think (perhaps it's the cyncism in me) that a person derives some kind of personal satisfaction by being the deliverer of bad news to a friend, afterall, they're on hand to dab the wet eyes of that friend, readily offering themselves as an emotional crutch... perhaps they are feeding a need in themselves by such actions.

I used to criticise people that 'played away', until I had a friend whose husband was considerably older than she and terminally ill. He remained bedbound, she the dutiful wife, tending his needs... wracked by guilt, had she done everything for him she could? She/'d spend hours watching over him, her weight plummeted and he never knew she was there - this lasted for almost six years. In the final eighteen months until he finally passed, she struck up a friendship with a man, they fell in love and their time with one another (snatched moments here and there) were her escapism, her little moments of comfort. She ended up being villified for 'cheating' on her husband - who began the villification? A well-meaning 'friend'! I say to anyone, as I have to her, that she cheated herself by denying herself for so long basic human contact/comfort. How dare anyone criticise her or anyone else for their choices. It's not your life, it's theirs. Does that make you any less of a friend by not running to your friend to deliver such bad news? No, on the contrary, it makes you more of one in my opinion.

Another friend, one I have known for twenty years was married. They had been having marital problems for a couple of years and one evening, after I had spent the day with her, the weather turned nasty and the husband drove me home. As we drew up to my abode he put his hand on my leg and tried to kiss me. He was slapped HARD for such intrusive behaviour, and slapped even harder for insulting me. They eventually separated and she came to me and said, "I knew about what had happened when xxxx took you home that night. It must have killed you not saying anything - why didn't you?" I hadn't told her, so knew he had. He assumed I would go running to her and decided to try and deflect any kind of situation. So he outed himself. I explained to her that it was not my place to police her relationship, that she was my friend and going through enough heartache without me adding to it, besides, I'd dealt with him directly. We have discussed that day, and she's admitted that had I gone to her and told her he'd tried it on, she likely would have taken her anger out on me - not meaning it, but it would have provided a convenient outlet for her anger/frustration/heartache - and as it was, she felt a small amount of resentment towards me briefly but thankfully that was soon overcome.

We never know the full extent of what occurs in others' relationships, even if they are those nearest and dearest to us. If I am considered less of a friend for my stance, so be it, I would rather live by my definition of friendship than anyone else's.

People have made a lot of assumptions about the man in the OP. Vivid imagination and gossip tend to be perfect partners of malintent.

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/23/2008 3:13:28 PM   
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I know I'd want to know if my husband was being a slut and a cheater. And I know if I was in the same position as you, I would tell my friend. She may know already, she may not; only one way to find out.

Of course she may get angry at you, the messenger, but if she's a logical person it'll blow over. Better to hear bad news from a friend then risk catching an STD from your hubby who's running around having sex with other people.

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/23/2008 3:17:55 PM   
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I do agree with Pyrrsefanie. Dont talk to her about it, let him decide how to deal with it. Maybe he thought dating in 2008 was easy?

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I think it really depends on your friend.
Personally, I'd send a message to him and ask him what the Hell has gotten into him.  It may scare him enough to delete his profile or confess on his own just because he thinks you're going to rat him out.
And on a not-serious-at-all note, you could always blackmail him for exorbitant sums of money.


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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/23/2008 3:32:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMorrigan

I've read through the posts, digested the many points of view from everyone that has contributed. One thing that still has yet to be addressed:

Why on earth does a person feel the need to 'police' another's relationship, whether they be a friend or simply an acquaintance? I cannot help but think (perhaps it's the cyncism in me) that a person derives some kind of personal satisfaction by being the deliverer of bad news to a friend, afterall, they're on hand to dab the wet eyes of that friend, readily offering themselves as an emotional crutch... perhaps they are feeding a need in themselves by such actions.

I used to criticise people that 'played away', until I had a friend whose husband was considerably older than she and terminally ill. He remained bedbound, she the dutiful wife, tending his needs... wracked by guilt, had she done everything for him she could? She/'d spend hours watching over him, her weight plummeted and he never knew she was there - this lasted for almost six years. In the final eighteen months until he finally passed, she struck up a friendship with a man, they fell in love and their time with one another (snatched moments here and there) were her escapism, her little moments of comfort. She ended up being villified for 'cheating' on her husband - who began the villification? A well-meaning 'friend'! I say to anyone, as I have to her, that she cheated herself by denying herself for so long basic human contact/comfort. How dare anyone criticise her or anyone else for their choices. It's not your life, it's theirs. Does that make you any less of a friend by not running to your friend to deliver such bad news? No, on the contrary, it makes you more of one in my opinion.

Another friend, one I have known for twenty years was married. They had been having marital problems for a couple of years and one evening, after I had spent the day with her, the weather turned nasty and the husband drove me home. As we drew up to my abode he put his hand on my leg and tried to kiss me. He was slapped HARD for such intrusive behaviour, and slapped even harder for insulting me. They eventually separated and she came to me and said, "I knew about what had happened when xxxx took you home that night. It must have killed you not saying anything - why didn't you?" I hadn't told her, so knew he had. He assumed I would go running to her and decided to try and deflect any kind of situation. So he outed himself. I explained to her that it was not my place to police her relationship, that she was my friend and going through enough heartache without me adding to it, besides, I'd dealt with him directly. We have discussed that day, and she's admitted that had I gone to her and told her he'd tried it on, she likely would have taken her anger out on me - not meaning it, but it would have provided a convenient outlet for her anger/frustration/heartache - and as it was, she felt a small amount of resentment towards me briefly but thankfully that was soon overcome.

We never know the full extent of what occurs in others' relationships, even if they are those nearest and dearest to us. If I am considered less of a friend for my stance, so be it, I would rather live by my definition of friendship than anyone else's.

People have made a lot of assumptions about the man in the OP. Vivid imagination and gossip tend to be perfect partners of malintent.


I'm quoting this in its entirety because I think it bears repeating..again and again..

Thank you, lovely lady....

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/23/2008 5:51:04 PM   
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Greedy, I hope I managed to convey that while we all have that initial knee jerk 'My god, it's my friend, I MUST do something' reaction, when we take a step back we realise that our friend is an adult and more than capable of sorting out their relationships - unless they come to us and ask for our assistance, even then I'd be loath to get involved in personal relationships. A good friend I can be, a firm support and would do anything, within my power, to help a friend, but meddle in their affairs is something I won't do - and I take that stance b/c I have learned the hard way how interfering can bite a person firmly in the arse.

We are given SOME information, not all... we're never privy to what goes on in the private lives of those we know, even those we are close to. My boy and I differ greatly on this view, he's of the opinion that one must rush in on their white horse to 'save the day' but then, as I've pointed out to him, when a person does that, they greatly risk ruining two relationships - their own with their friend, and their friend's with their lover/spouse - and usually out of ignorance b/c we tend to be acting on just a miniscule amount of information.

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/23/2008 5:53:28 PM   
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exactly, Miss M... *HUGS*  (I wish I could be so eloquent!!)

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/23/2008 5:56:19 PM   
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OMG my husband has a profile on here!!!

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/23/2008 5:59:01 PM   
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OMG my husband has a profile on here!!!



      Holy shit!  So does my wife!

     

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/23/2008 8:14:21 PM   
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Ok, I read some of the replies, but not all.  The best thing that I have read so far would be the suggestion of telling the spouse, through an alternate account.  Since a direct link to CM won't work unless your friend has a profile here, copy the whole thing, picture included, into a separate document that you can send via regular email.  I'd also suggest you sending a copy to the friend's husband here on CM, along with specifically mentioning that the wife received a copy.  That way, your friend is informed (I'd want to be), the husband knows he is caught, and you didn't have to go to any grand lengths to do it.  (Somebody back there said contact him feigning interest.  Bad idea.  How would you look in the end?)

Very seriously, I've been in this position.  I faced the same situation, and yes, I told the truth.  I did receive some backlash for it, which is why I recommend doing this through an obscure email account.  If your friend and her husband have an 'arrangement' in the marriage, the truth coming out won't be an issue.  If they don't, you know you were a good enough friend to have her best interests at heart.


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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/24/2008 1:00:05 AM   
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You are, all the time. Don't sell yourself short x

What I think irks me about many of the replies, especially those that suggest sending a link of the supposed 'cheating' husband, is that they can't see that their actions, when stripped down, are little more than interfering. One of my former boys, with whom I NEVER had any kind of sexual contact whatsoever, is married, happily so, and has been for almost thirty years. His wife does not know about his inner 'sissy' side to his being, if she did it would be the end to their relationship, with several more destroyed (grown up children who would act hatefully towards him)... he has never cheated on her sexually, but has this need to have his inner 'sissy' recognised and accepted, so he would come and see me once a month, dress up, spend three hours actually being himself and leave feeling liberated. I suppose there are many that have posted on this thread that would consider that still 'cheating' on his wife, I don't, neither does he. It's nice to have a relationship that's open, not many do and neither does he... he comes from a background where he would be crucified should someone take it upon themselves to notify his wife/family, he'd go from a successful/respected businessman, loving husband, terrific father and pillar of his community to 'that vile pervert' and lose the respect/love of many. People tend to see in black and white.

I'm sure if the self-appointed enforcers of relationship 'respectability' found themselves the object of another's interference they would have a different tune to play b/c at the end of the day, one person's good intentions is another's 'outing' and we can always justify our actions.
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exactly, Miss M... *HUGS*  (I wish I could be so eloquent!!)


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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/24/2008 1:17:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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Fast Reply:

OMG my husband has a profile on here!!!



     Holy shit!  So does my wife!

    



Hahahaha.  You freaks!

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/24/2008 3:38:25 AM   
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I would have agreed with MissMorrigan until aids came along.  When a couple of shots of penicillin would have cured anything she might have gotten from hubby I would have kept my mouth shut. 

Given that he has a profile on here he is shopping.  You can read the content here without getting an account or taking the time to put up a profile.  For her to know it is him he also has a pic posted.  Thats a lot of effort to just do for the heck of it.  The OP has to figure out which option she can stand to live with. 

I'd a whole lot rather be there for her over her husband's behavior than to be there for her as she slowly dies of aids.  I had a good friend who eventually found out her husband was cheating on her and she had to go through a series of tests.  They told her that if she wasn't positive in a year she was pretty much safe.   In that year while she dealt with what he had done to her she didn't dare try to form a relationship with anyone. 

The list of std's is bigger than it used to be.  There is more than 1 disease you can't get rid of, herpes for one.  That can infect a baby at birth if the mother delivers vaginally.   Thats a lot of risk, and it is just risk at this point, to sit by and do nothing.  I would a whole lot rather find out from a friend than to get a phone call from the health dept telling me I've been named as someone who could be infected by dear hubby.

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/24/2008 5:19:06 AM   
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~~~ FR ~~~

As I said in an earlier post... there are a lot of assumptions going on..
even IF the guy is actually doing this without his wifes knowledge..
even IF it's a recent profile..
even IF he's actively pursuing a physical relationship..
even IF that physical relationship is sexual and not just flogging/etc..
even IF he's actually met anyone...
Given all these IFS..
Do you all REALLY think that he's not aware of STDs??
which leads to the assumption that he wouldn't be practicing safe sex....
*sigh*

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RE: Found a friends husband here... what do I do? - 3/24/2008 5:22:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop
*sigh*


i hate it when Greedy sighs

oh hell...wrong forum

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