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Justme696 -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 3:13:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam

Women, of course,
it takes 6 men to carry a man to his grave, and one woman to put him there.


lolllllll

wish you didn't torture us so much before. I prefer a quick death :P




petpete -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 3:15:10 AM)

Now bit Your tongue Maam!!! Why do You wanna kill the poor bastard..???




Justme696 -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 3:19:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lashra


As for being focused, yes it is hard to have a career and children. This is because  many (but not all) Fathers do not get involved in the rearing and raising of their children. If more Fathers played a larger role in childcare, I really do believe we would see a positive benefit from it in our children and in the job place for women. I know I had to practically force my ex husband to be more active in raising our child, he thought for some reason men were supposed to go to work, come home and sit on the computer all night until it was time to go to bed[:@] Even though I had worked longer hours and had an even longer commute then he did. Thats a huge reason he is my ex[:D]

~Lashra



agree fully. You take kids to gether. BOth should take responsibility.
Or not take kids....

About history.....well..... I don't think it all "male" made.... To much proof excist that the males hunted. But who cares...we don't life in the past anymore.




DesFIP -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 6:35:00 AM)

I don't think men are dominant over women. I know he is dominant to me. It's personality, not gender.




LaTigresse -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 6:47:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: EXODUS1

Just out of curiousity,
I'm wondering why Males feel they are the more Dominate species, and why Woman feel they are?
 
Same for Sub/Slave men and woman.
 
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Before reading anyone else's reply I will give my first thought. Male/Female what? You have indicated a different species which would tell me you are discussing the difference between male or female dogs and cats, as an example?

Now, as to what I THINK you meant, gender rather than species.

Neither is more dominant, individual are.




subtee -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:01:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

I don't think the evidence supports your claim, MM.

There have been significant advances for women in the last 200 years. They remain, however, "the other".

Women remain the object of male libidinal desire.  And men remain the object of female libidinal desire...at least in heterosexual individuals.

Women remain inadequately represented in board rooms. A function of society, not as a matter of choice by women.

Women remain inadequately represented in government. Again, societal pressures, hundreds of years of history in governments.

Women remain mothers and housewives. Granted, today's world demands two working parents, but it's fair to say women accept the task of child-rearer and home maker. Women accept the task? Do men reject the task? Someone's gotta raise the kids.

Social interaction remains the same. At social events, men introduce themselves to other men, before introducing their partners...."this is my wife/girlfriend etc". Huh? I don't understand how you have come to this conclusion, nor how it is at all germaine to the question.

Women remain associated with mundale female pursuits - shopping, hairdressing etc - men are associated with projects. I assume you meant "mundane" female pursuits...wow.

It doesn't have to be this way; women choose this role for themselves. How do you arrive at this conclusion?

'Exceptions to the rule.


Mr. NG, please meet some more women!!!




colouredin -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:02:26 AM)

Women are better than men, and there is one very clear reason for this BOOBIES :D

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LaTigresse -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:17:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subtee

quote:

ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

I don't think the evidence supports your claim, MM.

There have been significant advances for women in the last 200 years. They remain, however, "the other".

Women remain the object of male libidinal desire.  And men remain the object of female libidinal desire...at least in heterosexual individuals.

Women remain inadequately represented in board rooms. A function of society, not as a matter of choice by women.

Women remain inadequately represented in government. Again, societal pressures, hundreds of years of history in governments.

Women remain mothers and housewives. Granted, today's world demands two working parents, but it's fair to say women accept the task of child-rearer and home maker. Women accept the task? Do men reject the task? Someone's gotta raise the kids.

Social interaction remains the same. At social events, men introduce themselves to other men, before introducing their partners...."this is my wife/girlfriend etc". Huh? I don't understand how you have come to this conclusion, nor how it is at all germaine to the question.

Women remain associated with mundale female pursuits - shopping, hairdressing etc - men are associated with projects. I assume you meant "mundane" female pursuits...wow.

It doesn't have to be this way; women choose this role for themselves. How do you arrive at this conclusion?

'Exceptions to the rule.


Mr. NG, please meet some more women!!!


When I read through NG's comment I was wondering exactly HOW any of that has anything to do with dominance. Last I knew, dominance was/is a personality trait.




sirsholly -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:25:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Women remain associated with mundale female pursuits - shopping, hairdressing etc - men are associated with projects.



you don't get out much...do you?




Justme696 -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:28:38 AM)

lol  poor guy...
well we can say...females are more meaner ..reading the last posts  haha




sirsholly -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:30:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

lol  poor guy...
well we can say...females are more meaner ..reading the last posts  haha


we bite, too!! (THAT IS...WHEN WE ARE NOT BUSY SHOPPING AND GETTING OUR HAIR DONE)




Justme696 -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:33:05 AM)

lol

biting can be nice :D




Shawn1066 -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:33:48 AM)

I don't feel any gender is superior to the other.  It's right up there with saying one race is superior to another.

Also, somebody on the first page said that people in the lifestyle were somehow more enlightened to the flaws of gender stereotyping than the nillas and we were less instictively driven because we choose our roles...  I don't agree with that assumption at all.  We're just as bad about gender stereotyping as anybody else.  Also I, for one, don't recall ever choosing...in any real sense...to be a submissive.



DV's Fox




kittinSol -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:34:31 AM)

I don't know if women are meaner, but many women on these boards don't take to bullshit gender stereotypes kindly. And I love them for it [:)] .




Justme696 -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:35:28 AM)

and easily stepped on their toes :P

( I am sure I get a lecture from my girl tomorrow :P )




Leatherist -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:39:43 AM)

I don't.

And I certainly don't base it on an outmoded set of archaic religious writings.




NorthernGent -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:41:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subtee

Mr. NG, please meet some more women!!!



Right, ladies, form a queue....one at a time, no pushing at the back.......

Subtee, I can't argue with the merits of your advice....when is plenty women ever enough?. Point conceded.

Having said this, you're not really answering my post, and I'll venture to suggest it's an emotionally charged response.




colouredin -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:41:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I don't know if women are meaner, but many women on these boards don't take to bullshit gender stereotypes kindly. And I love them for it [:)] .


Nope becuase we is special :D Im not a sub because im weak im a sub because im all wonderful and magical and great and stuff :D

And to NG oh seriously that was a pile of very sexist crap you just spouted, women arent represented not through choice but due to the glass celing and institutionalised bigotry basically you outlined that bigotry very eloquanlty, yeah what you said is basically what ignorant people think, and what makes so called 'female pursuits' mundane? thats a subjective value judgement just as I cant think of anything worse than sitting in a sweaty pub chucking darts at board (yeah thats a generalisation of 'male pursits' and just as much crap as yours) and putting 'there are exceptions' doesnt make anything that you said any less offensive or inaccurate.

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Ok
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Social interaction remains the same. At social events, men introduce themselves to other men, before introducing their partners...."this is my wife/girlfriend etc"


How do you account for women who arent attached to men? Single women? Gay women? I actually cant ever remember any man doing this to me whether I was with them or not, I find that magically I have a voice of my own.

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Women remain mothers and housewives. Granted, today's world demands two working parents, but it's fair to say women accept the task of child-rearer and home maker


Well you are making a value judgement about housewives here, how is being a housewife any less valid than a paid job? as subtee said SOMEONE has to raise the kids dont they, and it doesnt take into account any children raised by men (which I was) nor the increasing numbers of women who choose a career above having children.

Im not going to go through all your points, the rest has been covered by what I initially said in my opinion





NorthernGent -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:44:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

quote:

ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Women remain associated with mundale female pursuits - shopping, hairdressing etc - men are associated with projects.



you don't get out much...do you?



If you asked the question in my part of the world, "in general, who spends more time shopping and takes more care of their hair?".....you'd receive a unanimous decision. As said, women remain associated with these mundane aspects of human existence. Perhaps it's different in the United States.




Justme696 -> RE: M/F Why do you Feel Your Stronger then the other? (3/24/2008 7:44:50 AM)

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it's an emotionally charged response.


well humans have that by times..lol




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