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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 11:19:52 AM   
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Live and let live.  I wouldn't matter to me.  I want to know if they have good moral charcter as determined by my standards.

BadOne


Live and let live...doesn't matter...but you are going to judge them anyway?



Yes I am going to determine if my girl meets my moral standard.  For example I am not going to have a girl who steals from me.

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 11:28:38 AM   
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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 11:42:36 AM   
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SB what if she steals your heart.


That was pretty god damned romantic....


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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 12:00:55 PM   
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SB what if she steals your heart.


That was pretty god damned romantic....


 
I agree...and kind of a shock coming from Dnomyar.  Nice shock...but one, nonetheless.

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 5:30:38 PM   
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SB what if she steals your heart.


Gotta have one first

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 5:31:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Religion and politics - 2 things that can put a wedge in between the closest of partners.   I was raised in organized religion and as I got older (and hopefully wiser), I decided that was not for me, for many different reasons.  But as I got out of organized religion, I found myself becoming much more spiritual and at ease with me, my thoughts and beliefs.  One thing that turns me off from anyone is them pushing their beliefs on me.   I think to have a relationship, religious and spiritual compatibility have to be there.   I don't think one has to agree 100 % with their partner, but their beliefs and thoughts have to meld with eath other to have harmony in the relationship.  It's in line with all the other things I want to be compatible with my partner. 

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 5:32:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

I I could not however live with someone who did not have some inner guiding principle--

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 5:43:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, I would describe myself as a militant agnostic, which is to say I really don't know.

I'm more than likely compatible on my side with anyone who is not overly bombastic about their beliefs; I don't like when anyone foists unfounded assumptions upon others, and by virtue of being agnostic, it's relatively clear I regard all religions and spiritual belief systems as unfounded assumptions.  So if you want to believe it, great, that's your business, but the minute you either advocate it to others or try to get me to act on it, we're going to have a problem.

Live and let live indeed; it's that second part most strongly religious people I know seem to have trouble with.

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 5:55:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a refreshing topic, and one which I frequently wonder about. I am Mormon by belief (obviously there is some incongruity with my actions), and it's difficult, especially in Utah, to find someone interesting and compatible that either a) shares the same beliefs, or b) respects them. It hurts my heart to have my beliefs belittled by the person I love, and I would never dream of perpetuating that. I'm still trying to strike a balance...and settling for non-believers in the meantime.

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 6:06:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it might have been on our second or third date, He asked me if I had a problem with Him being a Pagan.  I smiled and replied, "No.  Do you have a problem with me being a Christian?"  He grinned and said "No".

And here we are......

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 6:16:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: midgetmafiosa

This is a refreshing topic, and one which I frequently wonder about. I am Mormon by belief (obviously there is some incongruity with my actions), and it's difficult, especially in Utah, to find someone interesting and compatible that either a) shares the same beliefs, or b) respects them. It hurts my heart to have my beliefs belittled by the person I love, and I would never dream of perpetuating that. I'm still trying to strike a balance...and settling for non-believers in the meantime.


I can see why that would be a problem for you, yes.  The whole Mormon thing is wrapped up in the missionary aspect of the religion from a macro perspective, as well as the relatively closed nature of the church.

So on one hand, you have your religious beliefs, but on the other hand, I would imagine many Mormons eschew kink, and because of the us versus them nature of the church itself that manifests at times, you're going to have a lot of people who will have issues with your religion...

I wish I had an easy answer for you, but I don't.


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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 6:20:13 PM   
midgetmafiosa


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ORIGINAL: Real_Trouble

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This is a refreshing topic, and one which I frequently wonder about. I am Mormon by belief (obviously there is some incongruity with my actions), and it's difficult, especially in Utah, to find someone interesting and compatible that either a) shares the same beliefs, or b) respects them. It hurts my heart to have my beliefs belittled by the person I love, and I would never dream of perpetuating that. I'm still trying to strike a balance...and settling for non-believers in the meantime.


I can see why that would be a problem for you, yes.  The whole Mormon thing is wrapped up in the missionary aspect of the religion from a macro perspective, as well as the relatively closed nature of the church.

So on one hand, you have your religious beliefs, but on the other hand, I would imagine many Mormons eschew kink, and because of the us versus them nature of the church itself that manifests at times, you're going to have a lot of people who will have issues with your religion...

I wish I had an easy answer for you, but I don't.


Yeah, it's a duality for sure. I just want a nice kinky Mormon boy...is that too much to ask? Probably.

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 6:23:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: midgetmafiosa

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ORIGINAL: midgetmafiosa

This is a refreshing topic, and one which I frequently wonder about. I am Mormon by belief (obviously there is some incongruity with my actions), and it's difficult, especially in Utah, to find someone interesting and compatible that either a) shares the same beliefs, or b) respects them. It hurts my heart to have my beliefs belittled by the person I love, and I would never dream of perpetuating that. I'm still trying to strike a balance...and settling for non-believers in the meantime.


I can see why that would be a problem for you, yes.  The whole Mormon thing is wrapped up in the missionary aspect of the religion from a macro perspective, as well as the relatively closed nature of the church.

So on one hand, you have your religious beliefs, but on the other hand, I would imagine many Mormons eschew kink, and because of the us versus them nature of the church itself that manifests at times, you're going to have a lot of people who will have issues with your religion...

I wish I had an easy answer for you, but I don't.


Yeah, it's a duality for sure. I just want a nice kinky Mormon boy...is that too much to ask? Probably.



As a former Mormon, I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the concept.

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 6:33:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OmegaG

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ORIGINAL: midgetmafiosa

This is a refreshing topic, and one which I frequently wonder about. I am Mormon by belief (obviously there is some incongruity with my actions), and it's difficult, especially in Utah, to find someone interesting and compatible that either a) shares the same beliefs, or b) respects them. It hurts my heart to have my beliefs belittled by the person I love, and I would never dream of perpetuating that. I'm still trying to strike a balance...and settling for non-believers in the meantime.


I can see why that would be a problem for you, yes.  The whole Mormon thing is wrapped up in the missionary aspect of the religion from a macro perspective, as well as the relatively closed nature of the church.

So on one hand, you have your religious beliefs, but on the other hand, I would imagine many Mormons eschew kink, and because of the us versus them nature of the church itself that manifests at times, you're going to have a lot of people who will have issues with your religion...

I wish I had an easy answer for you, but I don't.


Yeah, it's a duality for sure. I just want a nice kinky Mormon boy...is that too much to ask? Probably.



As a former Mormon, I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the concept.

Haha...omegaG, I can understand that. I guess I'm just not like the other Relief Society girls...

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 6:49:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: midgetmafiosa

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ORIGINAL: midgetmafiosa

This is a refreshing topic, and one which I frequently wonder about. I am Mormon by belief (obviously there is some incongruity with my actions), and it's difficult, especially in Utah, to find someone interesting and compatible that either a) shares the same beliefs, or b) respects them. It hurts my heart to have my beliefs belittled by the person I love, and I would never dream of perpetuating that. I'm still trying to strike a balance...and settling for non-believers in the meantime.


I can see why that would be a problem for you, yes.  The whole Mormon thing is wrapped up in the missionary aspect of the religion from a macro perspective, as well as the relatively closed nature of the church.

So on one hand, you have your religious beliefs, but on the other hand, I would imagine many Mormons eschew kink, and because of the us versus them nature of the church itself that manifests at times, you're going to have a lot of people who will have issues with your religion...

I wish I had an easy answer for you, but I don't.


Yeah, it's a duality for sure. I just want a nice kinky Mormon boy...is that too much to ask? Probably.



As a former Mormon, I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the concept.

Haha...omegaG, I can understand that. I guess I'm just not like the other Relief Society girls...



Yeah, I can see them talking about how imperfect their men are and how women were born with the keys and men had to earn it with the priesthood--- hey wait, they are all closet Dommes, it could work.

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 7:45:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I tend to agree with the original post. For long term compatibility, I have definitely found that having women that believe in a Creator and see developing their spiritual side is viewed as part of developing as a person are better fits for me.

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 11:29:40 PM   
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i recently reverted to islam (as some of you know) and that has deeply affected my relationship because my master is buddhist (i was buddhist as well before my reversion). he has dealt with it really well and there are mostly no problems (probably helped a lot by the fact that i still identify heavily with buddhism and that still informs our relationship a lot), although i have struggled somewhat with coming to terms with my sexuality in terms of islam's standards. i have a very personal approach to religion, though, so while i tend more towards conservative and fundamental views of islam, i also have no problem asserting my individuality and agency in terms of what i believe and how i put that into practice.

i have, in the past, been in a relationship with a fundamentalist christian while i was a buddhist. this relationship was what taught me that for me, religious differences really don't matter. it's wonderful to have a shared religion, and i know that now from my relationship with my master...it does add another dimension to the relationship. but at the same time, i am perfectly capable of sharing my life with someone who doesn't believe the same thing, as long as tolerance and acceptance is involved. with my previous dominant, his inability to accept my beliefs, along with some other unrelated issues, was what caused our relationship to break up. but in general, i'm extremely open to learning about all religions (and i study religion academically and hope to make a career of it), so i am fairly easygoing in terms of religion within relationships.

greetings midgetmafiosa,

best of luck to you in your search. i've found mormon churches some of the most inviting of any christian churches i have attended...i absolutely love the community we have here. i've heard that different areas are less open and inviting, though, so maybe it's a matter of geography? anyway, i am thinking of you and hoping you find what you are seeking :)

respectfully,
annabelle.

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/27/2008 11:52:13 PM   
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The strangest thing that happened to me, was many years ago, i had a good friend who got busted in morocco for trying to smuggle 27 kilos of Marihuana to germany. He spent 9 months in a jail there and in his first letter, that came through asked for Nutella (something sweet to put on bread) and something against lice. His girlfriend flew out to morocco together and on the expense of that dealer who lured Florian to do such a crazy thing. As he came back from morocco, he was nearly autistic and we decided, it would be the best when i live with him for a while.

I am not a drug user. We had a agreement, no drugs in the flat and he broke it again and again. Then one unfine day i came home and Florian and two other people where in the kitchen, on our table lay round about 1,5 kilo marihuana. And i told them, you have 1 minute to leave, i will call the police. One of them tried to talk to me about my missing tolerance and how can i judge them .....

The moral of the story: Even drug use can be religion.


that is so true...even drug use can be a religion...addiction it's higher power...hopefully not stepping on any anti-12 step toes here (i already did that a few weeks ago) but that is part of where i am at in my life...i had a God sized hole in me that i tried to fill up with everything i could think of - drugs, alcohol, sex, food, relationships, shopping - you name it, i've probably tried it, even extreme religion that had no spirituality that i could find, yet had the illusion of it...and after having found a God of my understanding...not one that anyone else defined for me, not a person, not an organization, not a church, no one...i have found peace in my life, serenity...
and to attempt to be in a relationship with someone who did not have peace and serenity or did not allow me to have mine, i think is where i would draw the line...now, don't get me wrong, i am not speaking for each and every person out there...i am just talking about the people i have dealt with...and those that have found a higher power (the same way i did) that they could rely on, no matter what, have had the peace and serenity i am talking about...i am not sure if that makes sense, but it's the best i have..

chelle


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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/28/2008 12:35:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		My Lord has his beliefs, I have mine.  Occasionally we clash, as couples do, so mostly we avoid talking about it.  It occurs to me that we both took the time to find out as much as we could about the other's beliefs before we got involved.  I don't know that it was a conscious thing on either part, but I know it was discussed more than once.

For myself, it's only important that they don't judge or try to change what I do.  I'll do the same for them.  I will be happy to share if sincere, interested questions or challenges are presented, but I'm not in the conversion business. 

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RE: Religious Incompatibility - 3/28/2008 1:42:29 AM   
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I'm a very spiritual person.  I don't follow any form of organized religion.  I don't have a personal investment in my slave's specific religious beliefs.  Yet I will never be involved with a woman who doesn't share an interest in spiritualism again.  I would be incompatible with an athiest who doesn't respect my expectations for her emotional and spiritual development.

Stephan



I asked him about this before asking to belong to him. I told him of my beliefs and asked if he had an issue with them.  He did not.  Nor did I with his beliefs.  Mine have since changed rather drastically, but he is still fine with them, in fact, I think he prefers them now and has perhaps been influenced a bit himself.  We're certainly more in sync now than before.  I was raised Catholic and remained Christian for years, but recently gave up my Christian beliefs for Eastern philosophies and concepts which I am still learning.  I find Hindu, Buddhist and Taoist philosophies fascinating and more applicable to the way I live and think.  Guess I'm a religious mongrel. 

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