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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 3:30:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987
Thats a gut wrenching situation?? You must be pretty desperate. I'm smart enough to know that in those conditions I don't have a chance in hell. Even if I come off nice I'm gonna get the exact same responses I did on this forum (and I'll give you a hint why, it has something to do with a little two digit number that rambo up there looked at and thought he had me figured out) the girls you described have a close mind, and anyone with a close mind isn't worth my time.


No these women arent reading with a closed mind they are jaded, it happens. When you get hundreds of messages with no thought you get rather annoyed. However it does have a positive twist, when you DO get a message from someone who has actually read your profile, who makes you laugh and whatnot its like you have a mini celebration. The messages that bitch and moan about how everyone is fake and all that crap just winds me up, what is this fake thing all about. Its not fake its just not fitting your preconception.

The best way is to make yourself more appealing, actually think before you send a message. I am looking for someone but I dont reply to all messages, this isnt just cm this is ANYWHERE that I get poorly written messages from people that assume simply because they are Dom and I am sub that I will fall at their feet. People may well be looking but NOT looking for you.


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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 3:57:19 AM   
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P.S. to the OP:

Oh, I forgot to mention in my last post that it's just not nice to disrespect VietNam or any veterans. I won't bother trying to explain this to you, as I know that would be futile.

I do, howver have a suggestion for you. Why not consider joining the all volunteer Army we have now ? They take almost anyone these days
, yanno. ( The marines are still pickier). You could get some good training, bulk or lean up as the case may be and learn some valuable skills, especially since you seem to like blowing shit up. Then volunteer for Iraq, although volunteering won't be necessary , I'm sure, to get you posted there. Then, when ( and, sadly, if) you come back we can chat about your experiences and  new perspective on life, service to country and even how to score pussy. I'd love to hear what you have to say then. Until than...meh.


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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 7:20:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cjan

P.S. to the OP:

Oh, I forgot to mention in my last post that it's just not nice to disrespect VietNam or any veterans. I won't bother trying to explain this to you, as I know that would be futile.

I do, howver have a suggestion for you. Why not consider joining the all volunteer Army we have now ? They take almost anyone these days
, yanno. ( The marines are still pickier). You could get some good training, bulk or lean up as the case may be and learn some valuable skills, especially since you seem to like blowing shit up. Then volunteer for Iraq, although volunteering won't be necessary , I'm sure, to get you posted there. Then, when ( and, sadly, if) you come back we can chat about your experiences and  new perspective on life, service to country and even how to score pussy. I'd love to hear what you have to say then. Until than...meh.



I got a section 8 discharge. Apparently they were a bit too soft for me, in the military they teach you to detonate explosives with robots and high powered rifles. Wheres the fun in that?? Just cause I wasn't too cowardly to get face to face with some heavy shit they instantly assumed I had one to many screws loose. If I wanted to work for radio shack and play with toy robots then I would have gotten a job there.

"meh" and I'm supposedly the one being immature. I tried to serve my country but in the end my country didn't want me. Its funny, your probably the 5000th person to tell me to join the military without knowing a little history about me. And everyone says I have a hair trigger temper, I was getting a bigger kick out of rambo, not recruiter john. Why don't you go back to being him?

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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 7:28:29 AM   
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You never know how much urine your bladder holds 'till you've had bullets whizzing over your head.


Reminds me of the time I thought it was a dud and didn't realize it was still live until I got up close to the damn thing. That'll make you run like a bat outta hell. Lol


I assume here you are referring to firecrackers of some sort. Still playing with those, laddie ?( Please forgive my assumption if I am incorrect)

I have no idea what your age is. When I refer to you as "kid" or "laddie", etc. I'm referring to the immature persona you project through your posts. Age itself is not necessarily an indication of maturity. Btw, go wipe your nose.



firecrackers?? Oh please, don't point a roman candle at me, I burn easily. Instead of making assumptions maybe you should ask more questions?? I don't know everything and nor do I pretend too. (hint: this post was originally a question and not an assumption) you learn a lot more about other people when you don't think you have them figured out. BTW did you wake up this morning and realize your not the all knowing god?? Tell me when that happens, I'd be kinda interested in knowing more about it when and if it happens.

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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 7:37:41 AM   
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I tried to serve my country but in the end my country didn't want me. 



Yanno,I believe that.

Be honest,what else did you do to become un-qualified for the military?



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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 7:42:32 AM   
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I got a section 8 discharge. Apparently they were a bit too soft for me, in the military they teach you to detonate explosives with robots and high powered rifles. Wheres the fun in that?? Just cause I wasn't too cowardly to get face to face with some heavy shit they instantly assumed I had one to many screws loose. If I wanted to work for radio shack and play with toy robots then I would have gotten a job there.

"meh" and I'm supposedly the one being immature. I tried to serve my country but in the end my country didn't want me. Its funny, your probably the 5000th person to tell me to join the military without knowing a little history about me. And everyone says I have a hair trigger temper, I was getting a bigger kick out of rambo, not recruiter john. Why don't you go back to being him?


With the albeit limit information that I have...which is what i have read here...you come across as being hostile and defensive and not someone who has all that great mastery of himself. You seem unwilling to accept responsibility for yourself...case in point: it was the military's fault for giving you a section 8... .
If you want people to have the option of giving you a favorable response you need to learn to respect people.
From what I have seen here, your approach could not be any less successful than if you were to stand outside with a big club and a billboard that says "Me Dom" over your head.

Now...before you go on the offense, take a breath (or 3) and realise 2 things:
1) You did ask "Why?"
2) You now have the opportunity to prove to us that I am wrong...
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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 8:33:38 AM   
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sweet angelica, didnt you already offer that to the op!
heres a little bit of info i found-

The term Section 8 refers to a former discharge from the US military for reason of being mentally unfit for service.
1. AUS military discharge based on military assessment of psychological unfitness or character traits deemed undesirable. 2. Slang A soldier given such a discharge or behaving as if deserving such a discharge. [After Section VIII of World War II U.S. Army Regulation 615-360, which provided for the discharge of those deemed unfit for military service.]
In the 1950s, Section 8 discharges were commonly given to service members found guilty of "Sexual Perversion," and it was classified as an undesirable discharge, depriving the soldier so discharged of veteran's benefits but not resulting in the loss of any citizenship rights, such as the right to vote.
Discharge under "Section 8" is no longer a military reality, as medical discharges for psychological/psychiatric reasons are now covered by a number of regulations. In the Army, such discharges are handled under the provisions of Army Regulation (AR) 635-200, Active Duty Enlisted Administrative Separations. Chapter 5, paragraph 13 governs the separation of personnel medically diagnosed with a personality disorder.

And, if you click on that last little bit you get-
Personality disorder, formerly referred to as a Character Disorder is a class of mental disorders characterized by rigid and on-going patterns of thought and action (Cognitive modules). The underlying belief systems informing these patterns are referred to as fixed fantasies. The inflexibility and pervasiveness of these behavioral patterns often cause serious personal and social difficulties, as well as a general impairment of functioning.
Personality disorders are defined by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) as "an enduring pattern of inner experience and behavior that deviates markedly from the expectations of the culture of the individual who exhibits it". [1] These patterns, as noted, are inflexible and pervasive across many situations, due in large part to the fact that such behavior is ego-syntonic (i.e., the patterns are consistent with the ego integrity of the individual), and therefore, perceived to be appropriate by that individual. The onset of these patterns of behavior can typically be traced back to the beginning of adulthood, and, in rare instances, early adolescence. [1]
This definition allows significant deviance from societal norms, such as conscientious objection to a social regime, to be classified as a mental disorder. In the former Soviet Union and elsewhere this has been used to justify treatment of political dissidents as though they were psychologically disturbed.

Maybe section 8 isnt really what you meant md1987?




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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 8:41:24 AM   
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After reading that I've come to realise I'm all Id.

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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 1:53:22 PM   
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Slang A soldier given such a discharge or behaving as if deserving such a discharge.


yeah I know the whole regulation but people still use the term section 8 unnless they're filling out the paperwork.

since you went through all that just to make me look like I have personality disorders andsexual percersion I'll tell you exactly how I got it.

It was a routine training course with live explosives. we had to counter-charge it by using robotics to place the counter charge. the robot which was a foot away from the live explosive malfunctioned. I got up from my position, walked straight into the blast zone, grabbed the sony peice of crap 500 yards back to our position.

They called it dangerous and irresponsible but the only life I put at risk was my own, so I really don't see why they cared.

Like I said, they get stupid robots to do all the dirty work. It took that junk heap 2 hours to crawl 500 yards, It took me 10 minutes to drag it back.

I don't blame it all on my country, the guys in my squad had girlfreinds, wives, kids, and families who cared about them. I understand why they would want a robot to do they're job. I didn't have people who cared about me, actually thats the reason I enlisted in the first place. If I died no one would care. I got sick of seeing crying families all over the news, why put people who had all those good things in life in harms way when you had a person like me who wouldn't be missed.

and notice how this has nothing to do with the original topic anymore??

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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 2:12:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987

I got a section 8 discharge. Apparently they were a bit too soft for me, in the military they teach you to detonate explosives with robots and high powered rifles. Wheres the fun in that?? Just cause I wasn't too cowardly to get face to face with some heavy shit they instantly assumed I had one to many screws loose. If I wanted to work for radio shack and play with toy robots then I would have gotten a job there.

"meh" and I'm supposedly the one being immature. I tried to serve my country but in the end my country didn't want me. Its funny, your probably the 5000th person to tell me to join the military without knowing a little history about me. And everyone says I have a hair trigger temper, I was getting a bigger kick out of rambo, not recruiter john. Why don't you go back to being him?


With the albeit limit information that I have...which is what i have read here...you come across as being hostile and defensive and not someone who has all that great mastery of himself. You seem unwilling to accept responsibility for yourself...case in point: it was the military's fault for giving you a section 8... .
If you want people to have the option of giving you a favorable response you need to learn to respect people.
From what I have seen here, your approach could not be any less successful than if you were to stand outside with a big club and a billboard that says "Me Dom" over your head.

Now...before you go on the offense, take a breath (or 3) and realise 2 things:
1) You did ask "Why?"
2) You now have the opportunity to prove to us that I am wrong...
(if what you are doing isn't working...then change what you are doing)



When will people get it?? I don't expect anything from collar me. Nothing, zip, nada. This isn't how I normally act, but I know when to take the oppurtunity to let my hair down and say whatever the hell I feel like saying because in the end this site had nothing they could offer me to begin with. Granted, a few good people actually gave helpful advice which for the most part was unexpected but its still a ratio of 10% honest and open people, and 90% people like domah and cjan. I don't care how I look or what people think, it was impossible to change they're opinions in the first place so why would I even try when I know I'm just gonna fail. I'm only one person and I don't know everything. One of the things I don't know is how to get people to like me when I never even had a chance to begin with. Most of the "doms and masters" who tell me in an insulting manner that I need to not let people push my buttons have already let me bush they're buttons. Go and look at all the negative responses I got, you have to get under someones skin to get that kind of treatment. And then these same people wanna tell me that I have an anger problem and a chip on my shoulder. this site is ridiculous, it gives the term hypocrite a whle new meaning. Until someone else comes with assumptions and insults to fuel my flame I really got nothing else to say.

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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 2:34:23 PM   
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It was a routine training course with live explosives. we had to counter-charge it by using robotics to place the counter charge. the robot which was a foot away from the live explosive malfunctioned. I got up from my position, walked straight into the blast zone, grabbed the sony peice of crap 500 yards back to our position.

They called it dangerous and irresponsible but the only life I put at risk was my own, so I really don't see why they cared.

You risked your life in a training exercise, why?

They probably thought that if you are prepared to gamble with your own life you are prepared to gamble with the lives of others. Whilst understandable to do exceptional things in a war zone they probably questioned what would be the worst result if a robot malfunctions in a training exercise? Now it wouldn't be the end of the world would it? Not exactly worth risking your life for is it? If you can't weigh up risks and benefits then what use are you to them?

Sorry I’m just amazed by your comments and how you think what you did can in any way be justified. The most precious resource any fighting force has is the personnel because they take a long time to train and loosing them creates severe political consequences. The last thing they need is people that don’t value their lives, them people are going to find a quick death in action.


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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 2:43:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987
It was a routine training course with live explosives. we had to counter-charge it by using robotics to place the counter charge. the robot which was a foot away from the live explosive malfunctioned. I got up from my position, walked straight into the blast zone, grabbed the sony peice of crap 500 yards back to our position.

They called it dangerous and irresponsible but the only life I put at risk was my own, so I really don't see why they cared.

You risked your life in a training exercise, why?

They probably thought that if you are prepared to gamble with your own life you are prepared to gamble with the lives of others. Whilst understandable to do exceptional things in a war zone they probably questioned what would be the worst result if a robot malfunctions in a training exercise? Now it wouldn't be the end of the world would it? Not exactly worth risking your life for is it? If you can't weigh up risks and benefits then what use are you to them?

Sorry I’m just amazed by your comments and how you think what you did can in any way be justified. The most precious resource any fighting force has is the personnel because they take a long time to train and loosing them creates severe political consequences. The last thing they need is people that don’t value their lives, them people are going to find a quick death in action.



Ive always put other before myself, but it was hot out and I just got tired of sitting there. plus its not like the counter charge was even in place yet so I felt pretty comfortable.

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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 2:56:35 PM   
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Well I can't be a judge of you because only you know the full story I suppose.

As to your OP they say participating on the message boards increases your chances of success here so you could try that approach. I personally think that's bollocks since I've been here since late 2005 and it hasn't helped me any. This place can only work as part of a calorie controlled diet they say: just like them weight loss products. In other words it is one aspect of the alternative lifestyles but not an overall solution to finding people. Although if you read through the positive experiences you’ll see it has worked for some here. That gives me hope but I'm not going to focus 100% effort here.



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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 2:58:16 PM   
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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 3:22:16 PM   
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Maybe this seems like a strange question, but I don't understand something. What is the point to going through the trouble of meeting "the right one" just to break her down and make her something else? You could do that with anyone, regardless of interests, commonality, etc.


Why on earth would I break someone close to me down? thats the complete opposite of what I do and who I am.

On the other stuff you wrote I've noticed you are very extroverted, but one thing I like that I never see is that you don't enforce you're opinions and assumptions as concrete facts like everyone else does. People who have a close mind will always be the dumbest people in the world because they stop learning and in a changing world like ours, once you stop learning you fall behind. but thats just my observation of other people in this lifestyle.


my point in my previous post was that you aren't coming across very well....
it wasn't that I thought you were a cave man...it was that your defensiveness here is getting in the way of some good stuff..like the part I 'hightlighted'.

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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 5:01:45 PM   
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md1987, I think you've proved my point with your own words. I actually wish you good luck and best wishes in your life.

Btw, I don't think I'm god at all. In fact, I've found, the older I get, the more aware I am of all that I don't know compared to the little that I do know. But, what I do know of most value to me hasn't come  from books, although I do have a good education, but from my experiences. That makes that knowledge mine in an authentic way that book learning can't touch. And you're right, in a way, I still don't know Jack Shit... well... maybe just a little. Let's say, we've been introduced and leave it at that.


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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 5:05:52 PM   
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since you went through all that just to make me look like I have personality disorders andsexual percersion I'll tell you exactly how I got it.


a bit full of yourself lol, i looked it up because i and others who havent been in the military might be thinking of
the section 8 housing program.
 as for off topic, you brought it up.

quote:

One of the things I don't know is how to get people to like me when I never even had a chance to begin with.


every time you come off pointing fingers 'its not me', you only prove further that it is. serioulsy lighten up. and if you truly do believe
90% of the people here are bad, why are you here with a Second profile? maybe you really dont believe that. do you know what it is youre really reaching out for? at this point it dosent seem so much you wanting a sub but something else? do you know what it is?



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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 5:08:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domahpet

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ORIGINAL: MasterDark1987
since you went through all that just to make me look like I have personality disorders andsexual percersion I'll tell you exactly how I got it.


a bit full of yourself lol, i looked it up because i and others who havent been in the military might be thinking of
the section 8 housing program.
 
as for off topic, you brought it up.


as a former military wife i am pretty sure i know what a section 8 is...

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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 5:10:09 PM   
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Didn't Klinger from MASH try to get out on a section 8? Cross dressing and all that?

Just asking.

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RE: Why?? - 4/6/2008 5:11:22 PM   
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Didn't Klinger from MASH try to get out on a section 8? Cross dressing and all that?

Just asking.


hmm...wonder if the OP shaved his legs before he put on the hose and heels...

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