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When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:05:17 PM   
clearlightblack


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He calls to say his cancer might be back and he needs you......
 
You've just taken the greatest job of your career.......
 
That little person inside you is torn.....because you know that the person inside you knows at his command you will jump and do as he commands.....
 
He has already told you there will be no argument about you coming back......
 
I haven't been able to find my voice.....
 
This job will make or break my career.......but he still owns my submission.....
 
What would you do?
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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:07:40 PM   
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What *I* would do would be stupid.
What you should do is follow your career path to where it may lead you.

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:09:58 PM   
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If he is an "Ex" - then he doesn't really own anything of yours.  The past is old news even if you shared times with him at one point.  To give up your job, your work, your career is just unthinkable.  Go forward, not backward.  (from someone who has walked in reverse before)

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:10:00 PM   
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i'd remember WHY He is an ex.  Go to Pier One Imports, and pick out a kick ass paper weight for my new desk.....

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:12:58 PM   
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If he asked you back before his cancer came back then I'd say consider it.
Under these circumstances I'd say no.   Pick the job.

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:13:03 PM   
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That is a really hard thing to come up against. There are a couple of questions I'd like to ask in order to clarify my thoughts on this.

1 - why is he your ex-Master?
2 - why are the job and your submission mutually exclusive?
3 - if you ditch the job and go with the Master, and [God forbid] something happens to him, where will you be career-wise? Is that something you even want to think about right now?

I hope you can come to the answer that is right for you.

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:14:59 PM   
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I would tell him tough shit, you're an x I don't owe you anything, in turn You have no authority over me, i will not be dropping everything and coming back to you. Do not call me again, thank you goodbye hang up then block his calls and emails and ims, and go on with the happy life I have built formyself with out him.

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:24:33 PM   
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He's an ex. He didn't want you back before, but now he's looking for an unpaid nurse.

Tell him you're sorry to hear about his news, and you'll keep him in your thoughts, and hopefully it might not be back after all.

If he pushes, tell him you're sorry, but you've given your word to someone else and you aren't available. The fact that your word was given to your new boss is immaterial. You gave it and you are planning not to take it back.

And if he keeps hassling you, change your number.

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:26:45 PM   
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Funny how manipulators have these recurring terminal illnesses that seem to recur when they want something......

Be mature and sensible. Take the job.  Live your life.  And as far as that "owning your submission" crap....he doesn't own anything of the sort.  Unless you're so melodramatic that the whole scenario appeals to you more than your career and personal growth.  In that case, you have more issues than this message board can help you with. 

If he has recurring cancer, then he's going to be really busy with doctors and appointments and chemotherapy, etc.  He doesn't have time to play Master.


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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:31:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Poetryinpain

That is a really hard thing to come up against. There are a couple of questions I'd like to ask in order to clarify my thoughts on this.

1 - why is he your ex-Master?
2 - why are the job and your submission mutually exclusive?
3 - if you ditch the job and go with the Master, and [God forbid] something happens to him, where will you be career-wise? Is that something you even want to think about right now?

I hope you can come to the answer that is right for you.

pip



To your first question, I don't know if there is a short version to that question.  But to try and answer you.....He was the first to bring me into the lifestyle.....I fell in love with him and let him bring me in. I seemed to fall into my role as his submissive quickly, though i did have several things that needed to be worked on. He made a lot of promises that never came true, didn't even come close. And we are not talking about huge things...just promises of small chunks of time. I can own up and say my job and me being an only child....made me a bratty, spiteful little thing, but He promised time and it never happened and I was scolded for being upset. I was told to read about the lifestyle until he could get to me. He saw me as his old slave....I was punished for her sins. He would say when he was "finally" ready to start training me, I would "act" up and he would want to walk away. In the beginning he loved my ambition and my spirit. He said he loved me but then he wanted to change me. To me I felt like he could careless about anything, I couldn't trust him and all I was, was someone to boss around, even though he said things would be different. 

After I said all this....made me think....Maybe some of the members are right, maybe I didn't get my place beat into me enough.....but he was never had time for that either.....

As for question 2....my job sort of puts me in an opposite position. In my job I am a boss and get what I want.......like I said a mouthy little thing who does great at her job IMHO :) Perhaps I did not understand your question fully.....

Question 3......I know I'd be finished......this oppurtunity I will not have again. It is end of the line and if I say no, then I have killed my career.....he thinks i'll have another chance...or rather why do I need a chance when he will be there to take care of me.......I am scared.  Today I prayed harder and more than I have ever prayed in my life....right next to when my father was sick......

I am so scared......I love him, but I can't give up my job.....but I know either way I'll be betraying someone....even if he doesn't own me anymore

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:34:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: windchymes

Funny how manipulators have these recurring terminal illnesses that seem to recur when they want something......

Be mature and sensible. Take the job.  Live your life.  And as far as that "owning your submission" crap....he doesn't own anything of the sort.  Unless you're so melodramatic that the whole scenario appeals to you more than your career and personal growth.  In that case, you have more issues than this message board can help you with. 

If he has recurring cancer, then he's going to be really busy with doctors and appointments and chemotherapy, etc.  He doesn't have time to play Master.



I don't believe it is the "playing Master" that he wants me for.....since sometimes we take jobs to pay the bills.....I was a nurses aid/home health aid.......I am easily qualified to take care of him....far cry from my new office job but....still a job I can easily perform.

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:37:09 PM   
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You're right, there is no argument.  You give him some numbers to some cancer coping groups in his area, say he doesn't need someone who isn't secure and sure she wants to be there in his time of need and it's over for good.

The end.

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:38:29 PM   
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He calls to say his cancer MIGHT be back and he needs you......
 
You've just taken the greatest job of your career.......
 
That little person inside you is torn.....because you know that the person inside you knows at his command you will jump and do as he commands.....
 
He has already told you there will be no argument about you coming back......
 
I haven't been able to find my voice.....
 
This job will make or break my career.......but he still owns my submission.....
 
What would you do?


If he is your ex ... he doesnt own your submission .. and he said his cancer MIGHT be back .. he isnt even sure ... why would you drop everything and give up everything that is important to you ? .

Take care of yourself first ...... you owe him nothing .. pray for him ... feel bad for him .... but take care of yourself !!

Will it be easy no .. but it is a matter of survival .. YOURS

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 7:45:13 PM   
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I am so scared......I love him, but I can't give up my job.....but I know either way I'll be betraying someone....even if he doesn't own me anymore


Choosing what is best for you is not a betrayal. Your relationship with him ended for a reason. It sounds to me that he didn't even treat you that well to begin with. (Edited; Yes, it's a harsh assumption to draw from your statement that he didn't spend time with you like he promised. My apologies for coming across like a pompous ass.) It won't be any different this time.

The decision, though painful, should be obvious. Stick with your career. Personally, I'd have no less for anyone I cared for that they were able to see through the pain to make a responsible decision.

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 8:38:45 PM   
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OP - I hope in answering my questions you answered yours as well.

For heaven's sake! Don't give up this sterling opportunity to be the woman you were created to be - and I don't mean care-giver to someone who thinks you owe him that. I mean the strong, decisive woman who can run that office like you mean it!

He's right - no argument - just a firm NO and a good-bye.

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 9:26:30 PM   
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He made a lot of promises that never came true, didn't even come close.

-snip-

He saw me as his old slave....I was punished for her sins. He would say when he was "finally" ready to start training me, I would "act" up and he would want to walk away.

-snip-

He said he loved me but then he wanted to change me. To me I felt like he could careless about anything, I couldn't trust him and all I was, was someone to boss around, even though he said things would be different.


What makes you think that just because his cancer "might be" back and he "needs" you will make this time any different? Just because he says so? You already said that you couldn't trust him before. Why are you still trying to trust him?

My advice?  Do not go back. Run in the opposite direction. Focus on you and your career. Don't waste this opportunity.


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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 9:31:56 PM   
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Just tossing in my vote for stay where you are!  If he truly needs you and is dying then he can move to you.  After all if you are dying then you should sort out your personal life anyway.

If you wants you for his end of life nurse maid then you can do that on your off time from work, and he can hire someone to care for him in the day.  Don't forget to collect rent from him.

Take care of yourself, you are in a place not easily replicated so why give it up for someone who could not give you what you needed when he was well,  what are the chances he could do that now?

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 10:20:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: clearlightblack

....he thinks i'll have another chance...or rather why do I need a chance when he will be there to take care of me.......



Because of the reason why he contacted you again, clearlightblack, this really doesn't make any sense to you, does it?

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 10:33:44 PM   
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OK OK OK... I am sorry... My previous post was no less than cruel.

But I think I got my point accross. This guy did not work out before and you think there is the possibility of it being different now why?

I don't know if he's playing you a fool or not... but if you do go back to him... you are definately a fool.

Damn... I just can't find my nice bone today..

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RE: When an Ex-Master Calls..... - 3/30/2008 10:44:48 PM   
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Let's be clear...does he want you back for YOU or does he want you back to have someone to take care of him while he's sick? If the latter, there's hospice...if the former...you'll have to decide where your heart lies. If you died tomorrow, what's more important, that you had a Master/slave relationships with this man or that you were a success in the job of your dreams?

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