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RE: Weight problem - 4/2/2008 4:37:50 AM

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You do not need to do dumbass diets to lose weight. You need to control how you eat. Chew, chew , chew, Slow and deliberate. As far as exercise goes. When your my age you will not get back the six pack. Do it in modereation.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/2/2008 6:07:45 AM

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For myself
Orgazms feel better than a snicker bar ....wait thats stretchin it a little..orgazms feel better than most food tastes...and so tell me that when I feel like eating something not on my meal plan that I can ask permission to suck your cock...and if you are not around, that I should cum for you ..
When I make a good choice vs something unhealthy I could have stuck in my mouth, that I will have a reward waiting for me..

Tell me that you want me to come to you and talk about my feelings and emotions rather than eating over them or stuffing my face because I have tension or stress..that YOU will help me relieve/release those instead of the food doing it.

I guess my point is
be supportive
telling me "youre fat I want you to do something about it" may be the truth and your wish
but
there are positive ways to go about that that can feel and be much more effective....for both you and for me.

Please don't sit on the couch next to me, weighing 50lbs overweight and eating a bag of cheetos and then look at me and tell me you think Im fat and unhealthy! thank you very much.

Tell me...then kiss me, fuck me and then tell me to get dressed we are going for a walk!

Thank you for a job well done!! Am gonna use ur insights if I may.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/2/2008 3:07:18 PM

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of course : )
glad something in there rang true for you ...

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RE: Weight problem - 4/2/2008 3:09:34 PM

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. When your my age you will not get back the six pack. Do it in modereation.

those are your ribs....your six pack should be lower :P you cheat

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RE: Weight problem - 4/2/2008 4:52:45 PM

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Greetings!!

First of all, I do not and will not judge a person by the shell they come in; they are all beautiful creations from God.

Now here is my Question:

Will a Dom/Master lie to his/her Sub to make him/her feel better about his/ her weight?

I am really learning something new here everyday and pardon me if I posted silly topics which may not interest many people.

Pharoh

Even though it has broken my heart more than thrice to walk away, I have always walked away from what i consider to be lies, no matter what the cost.
I haven't always walked away immediately because I have often stayed thinking surely not? it's not possible? who would lie to me/ they have far too much integrity to lie surely? what did I jsut hear? wtf are they capable of that and so on. I have even become entangled in a lie and yes lied myself to counteract it.
But that's a slippery slope.
I have also failed to hear a truth when it hasn't been acceptable to me or i just couldn't take it at the time.
I have practised compassion exercises to try to see another's truth. or the truth from the other's perspective.
It's a difficult issue, it's a debate without a resolution, as to what to do in some situations; tell the truth and hurt another or withold the truth and hurt them less.
Therefore i have to conclude that some truth is absolute and some truth relative.
Within a dynamic relationship the necessity for an agreed truth is what forms the basis of consensulaity. How could I consent if i do not know what it is, truthfull, I am consenting to?
positively lying, (telling a lie) or negatively lying (witholding the truth) can only be harmful in bdsm as consent within agreed limits is the best definition of a truthful dynamic that I know.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/2/2008 7:01:05 PM

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For myself
it is easier for me to "stop it" at the 5 or 7 lb mark and be honest with myself. vs ignoring and living in denial.....then 30 lbs are there all of a sudden and its an issue..and usually MY issue then to deal with alone.

so I guess my answer would be
be honest with me if its effecting your desire...my allure...our relationship > WHEN it first becomes something You notice....vs waiting, being quiet trying to ignore somehting that really does matter to you as though it does not.

We could take a dance class together...take more walks together.. commit to riding bikes on the weekend instead of the car rides we take..
Make a healthy meal plan and shop and cook together ( for a committed amt of time ) and make it something enjoyable and fun.

Orgazms feel better than a snicker bar ....wait thats stretchin it a little..
orgazms feel better than most food tastes...and so tell me that when I feel like eating something not on my meal plan that I can ask permission to suck your cock...and if you are not around, that I should cum for you ..
When I make a good choice vs something unhealthy I could have stuck in my mouth, that I will have a reward waiting for me..

Tell me that you want me to come to you and talk about my feelings and emotions rather than eating over them or stuffing my face because I have tension or stress..
that YOU will help me relieve/release those instead of the food doing it.

I guess my point is
be supportive
telling me "youre fat I want you to do something about it" may be the truth and your wish
but
there are positive ways to go about that that can feel and be much more effective....for both you and for me.

Please don't sit on the couch next to me, weighing 50lbs overweight and eating a bag of cheetos and then look at me and tell me you think Im fat and unhealthy! thank you very much.

I want to know
but I also don't want to slash my wrists (ok that was a bit dramatic but you get my point) because I have dissappointed you, you no longer find me attractive...wont desire and use my body anymore >and am Im now in a hole that I can't climb out of on my own, because we both ignored it for too long.

Tell me...then kiss me, fuck me and then tell me to get dressed we are going for a walk!

.....Perfectly said...!!!...direct to the point and a wee bit ot titillation thrown in...woof!!!....Tempting

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RE: Weight problem - 4/2/2008 7:31:33 PM

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I think a "weight problem" is only a real problem if it is unarguably causing you health problems.

Until then it is only a matter of what one person considers attractive or unattractive.

I'm in good health over all (damned last round of antibiotics worked!) and I may think I'm fat but my husband and my slave both think I'm beautiful. In fact that is the one area where my slave will and does get angry at me and forget to be "submissive" to me -- he really hates it if he hears me say that I'm fat.

So "lying" too may be a matter of what one person considers attractive or unattractive and not a matter of objectivity.

If someone thinks his/her partner has gotten too fat they need to double check their own behavior first cause very few people get fat alone. Odds are the one who has the "you are fat" attitude has also put on weight or has been consciously or unconsciously doing things that encouraged the other partner's weight gain. That can range from bringing foods into the household, sending mixed messages about the partner's body, lack of intimacy or even in the context of a Ds dynamic limiting another person's contact with the rest of the world so that they get depressed (often leads to over eating and lethargy).

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RE: Weight problem - 4/2/2008 7:43:29 PM

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Thank God!!!! Just when Mod 11 pulls one fat thread another arises from the ashes....Much like a huge and bloated, overweight and obese phoenix.

This is what I know.....First off let me repeat....I am shallow. I am the smallest puddle of human existence...Barely enough to get the bottoms of your feet wet.

I don't believe anyone who says that all people are beautiful creations from God....We know this is not true...Ugly comes in all types of fashions from the external to the internal....There are some pretty rotten motherfuckers running around on God's green earth. They are far from beautiful.

As far as external beauty...I also don't believe that everyone is "bewuuuutiful." I have preferences....I think everyone does. We also have an idea about what is realistic. My days of tapping the twenty somethings is most likely coming to a close (A moment of silence please......Be strong Domiguy...Be strong) a man has gotsta know his limitations...

What I find attractive not everyone would agree with. Which is kinda cool .....More tappage out there for Ol' Domiguy. We speak in terms of beauty and often the subject comes up that we have been "brainwashed." I like what I like...Trust me it ain't the shit that is featured in most magazines, actually it is....Especially if you have a subscription to "Zits on Ass Monthly."

You might be nice....And nice is nice. Don't mean you get a turn on the Domidong or that you are going to allow me to wear you out. Personal preferences. We all have them...I mean, what the fuck, I'm with ol' fatty but I would prefer to be with miss thang. This is the compromise that one reaches when preferences meet reality.

It's all soooo fucking sad. Friend of mine's wife just had a baby...Going to go meet him out for a beverage right now....Poor guy, he would love to fuck anything other than his wife right now....I told him it's extra brownie points if you get caught cheating while your wife is hospitalized just after giving birth to one of your young'uns. Chicks really dig this kind of shit.

Off I go ...Perhaps my brown eyed...brown haired sub awaits?....If not I'll just pound down a few extra and do what's available. Reality really sucks. Wish me luck.

I'm going to ask every woman at the bar how much they weigh....I'll purchase a football helmet along the way.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/2/2008 7:50:30 PM

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It's all soooo fucking sad. Friend of mine's wife just had a baby...Going to go meet him out for a beverage right now....Poor guy, he would love to fuck anything other than his wife right now....I told him it's extra brownie points if you get caught cheating while your wife is hospitalized just after giving birth to one of your young'uns. Chicks really dig this kind of shit.

let me see...Chicago...and sensitive enough to think of this quote.

Domi, are you really Phil Donahue???

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 12:06:18 AM

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I don't put my weight on my profile, just 1 reason really, I think my photo says a lot more than the numbers in my weight, in the past a few year back, i did have my weight on a chat profile, think it was msn or something like. All it did was attract people who wanted to call me, or insist on telling me how big i was. Not people who wanted to be friends. I know I am big, not as big as i used to be, I am now a size 14-16 and in the last year lost 5stone. I feel better for it, but I never over ate, always been big, but a lot of medical problems i found it hard to lose the weight, but once i got medical problems diagnosed and controlled. finally i lost some weight.
but like i say putting weight on my profile, didnt attract people who wanted to be friends, so i dont bother now. I can do without the few who are not so nice.
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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 3:01:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub

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ORIGINAL: TysGalilah

For myself
it is easier for me to "stop it" at the 5 or 7 lb mark and be honest with myself. vs ignoring and living in denial.....then 30 lbs are there all of a sudden and its an issue..and usually MY issue then to deal with alone.

so I guess my answer would be
be honest with me if its effecting your desire...my allure...our relationship > WHEN it first becomes something You notice....vs waiting, being quiet trying to ignore somehting that really does matter to you as though it does not.

We could take a dance class together...take more walks together.. commit to riding bikes on the weekend instead of the car rides we take..
Make a healthy meal plan and shop and cook together ( for a committed amt of time ) and make it something enjoyable and fun.

Orgazms feel better than a snicker bar ....wait thats stretchin it a little..
orgazms feel better than most food tastes...and so tell me that when I feel like eating something not on my meal plan that I can ask permission to suck your cock...and if you are not around, that I should cum for you ..
When I make a good choice vs something unhealthy I could have stuck in my mouth, that I will have a reward waiting for me..

Tell me that you want me to come to you and talk about my feelings and emotions rather than eating over them or stuffing my face because I have tension or stress..
that YOU will help me relieve/release those instead of the food doing it.

I guess my point is
be supportive
telling me "youre fat I want you to do something about it" may be the truth and your wish
but
there are positive ways to go about that that can feel and be much more effective....for both you and for me.

Please don't sit on the couch next to me, weighing 50lbs overweight and eating a bag of cheetos and then look at me and tell me you think Im fat and unhealthy! thank you very much.

I want to know
but I also don't want to slash my wrists (ok that was a bit dramatic but you get my point) because I have dissappointed you, you no longer find me attractive...wont desire and use my body anymore >and am Im now in a hole that I can't climb out of on my own, because we both ignored it for too long.

Tell me...then kiss me, fuck me and then tell me to get dressed we are going for a walk!

.....Perfectly said...!!!...direct to the point and a wee bit ot titillation thrown in...woof!!!....Tempting

pant and to your woof

thanks!!!

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 4:44:12 AM

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Hmm is weight an issue..yes. I gained weight when my medical issues stopped me from doing my usual routine of things for the past two years. I shleped on about 50 pounds or so. Now with spring knocking at the door and my medical stuff is being dealt with and Im relearning to do things I will be able to take off the weight. Am I fat? hell yea and Master knows it too we dont have fun house mirrors in our home that make me look thin. Besides Master put on a few pounds too this past winter..so we will get back in shape together.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 5:40:52 AM

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And weight (whether heavy or light) is genetics. .

nope.. your weight is about how much food you put into your mouth and how many calories you burn from that food.

The reasons that you over eat, the relationship you have with food, the attitude you have about your body may well be something that is nurtured in you... but as an intelligent self controlling adult ... your weight has nothing to do with your DNA. Scientists may well prove beyond doubt there is a gene that supresses the signal to your brain that you are full, but as an adult you can make the decision to be logical, you have eaten a meal, it was sufficient to fill you, deal with the hunger pangs.. lose the weight

Until you can control and take responsibility for your relationship with food... you will always have a battle with your weight ..

I am over weight because I have a relationship with food that produces a negative outcome...its comforting to eat, I grew up in family where the social focus was feeding times, feeding people is demonstrating love ..more food...more love. I eat when I am lonely, bored, frightened or upset. Now I realise this... I can stand in front of the fridge and make the decision...am I actually hungry.. or is my mind craving something that can be temporarily replaced with the feeling of a full stomach. Understanding that about myself, and accepting it,and learning to deal with it, has been one of the single most freeing things that has happened to me in my adult life.

you and half the medical world think like this...and i am so glad they did not do a gastric by-pass on me when i was 8 years old...when i finally began eating like a normal person (ie, not starving myself) 2 and a half years ago my metabolism began repairing itself and i began to loose weight...it has been discussed on these boards over and over, and i am not picking on your specifically, but yours was the first post that mentioned this missinformed "fact"...since i have learned to eat more food, at least 1500 calories a day i have gone from size 28 375lbs at my heaviest to a almost size 20 (just tried on jeans yesterday and i am also bloated - yay periods...) 280lbs....i have a lot of bone and muscle mass...and if i don't eat enough my metabolism goes "are we starving again? hold on to all the calories, don't burn anything, we don't know when we are going to eat again" and i gain weight...

oh yea, and i ask appropriate questions that are easy for men to answer like "are these flattering?" they can say yes or no and i won't be offended...lol....and if my Owner lied to me and i found out...ya know...i used to be real hard assed about this...but i can now say that sometimes it is for my own good...like the "do you have money?" when i want something silly and he know's i am going to obsess on it if he tells me he has money and no i can't have it, so he just tells me he doesn't have money...and i've learned to shrug it off...i trust him...he is not going to do anything that harms me...in fact he is doing things that may be deceptive that benifit me in the end...so...i accept it...

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 5:50:13 AM

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Chelle I'm sure you've also discovered that the type of calorie you eat plays a huge part too...1500 calories of pre-prepared high sodium foods is not the same as 1500 calories of organic, freshly steamed protein and veggies.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 6:00:38 AM

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for others perhaps...personally, for weight loss, all that matters is that my body not consider itself starving...1500 calories of McDonalds or 1500 calories of organic home cooked...and the 1500 is a minimum i hold myself too so that don't go back to starving myself, i can eat 2500 or 3000 calories once in a while and not have it affect me, but it better be a damned good stick of butter that i am eating...lol...

anyway, for feeling well and full of energy, yes, what i eat plays a huge part, i prefer fresh meat and vegetables, home cooked soups, i detest things that come out of a can or a window (except coffee)...and sodium has nothing to do with it...i put a ton of salt on everything, my body doesn't absorb it well for some reason - i come up low on sodium on blood tests...

but then again, i may be weird...and i'm ok with that...

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 8:48:23 AM

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For me the best way to first stabilize, then loose overweight, implies :

stopping drinking sodas and alcoholic beverages (= beer) : the first because of the massive amounts of sugar, the second because once digested, alcohol turns to sugar AND because of water retention issues with beer. Just drink pure water, it's the best thing you can offer to your precious body.
NEVER EVER eat anything except a fruit between meals, and always eat your meals at the same moment of the day, everyday. It will help you (re)gain a real hunger sensation (hunger and not starvation) and helps you digest your stomach's contents before filling it again, unless constantly filling it. You'd better make 5 light meals a day, than 3 large meals. And, NEVER EVER miss a meal because it will ruin your efforts. The worse being to miss daytime meals and eat a lot before sleep.And trow away your fried anything, it make you eat only grease and salt. Worst regime ever.
Move your lard ass and go biking/walking/swimming, whatever but stay away from sofa and TV... just 30 minutes of daily walk will be very efficient in helping you loose weight.
eat fresh veggies. It's way better than McDo both for the taste and for your health.

If you feel like you did not eat enough, be aware you can eat lots of food (which is a bad idea anyway) without necesssarily eating lots of calories : stick to salad cucumber for example, and roast chicken with non-oil-based sauce (like peppered tomato sauce, or yogurt mixed with herbs). Stick to low-fat food most of the time so you will be allowed rich food from time to time...

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 8:52:17 AM

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'Lard ass'Such a charming phrase.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 8:55:06 AM

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Is it too honest ??

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 8:55:48 AM

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from hiefer to lard ass, lord we advance everytime one of things pop up.. woohoo..

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 8:57:11 AM

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Gotta love men with no tact whatsoever...

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