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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 9:00:37 AM   
Dnomyar


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I don't care what you women say. Im still eating my chillidog loaded with onions and mustard. Orgainc. The stuff grows out of the same ground. Your paying for the word Organic. A order of chili fries please.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 9:24:42 AM   
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Gotta love men with no tact whatsoever...


no tact and no clue is even more charming...

i eat more and am less active (more seizures do that to a person) and still loosing weight...w00t...

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 9:43:42 AM   
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It is true.. puddles has found that one can eat 1200 calories and work out obsessively and not lose a single pound. one keeps building and burning the muscle rather than burning the fat. (calorie count depends on size and metabolism). puddles found out that she needs to be eating somewhere between 1800-2400 calories for her activity level to burn fat and it's a constant struggle to tell herself EAT MORE. puddles sees the weight loss when she actually does follow the rules. there is also a strong tie to emotions. puddles KNOWS when she is happy/content because weight loss is very very easy. no change in food/exercise, she just loses weight.

so the idea that it's simple.. of course it's simple. but the simplicity is different for every single person. some people's problem is taming the emotional aspects. getting anxiety/stress under control. for women, if you tend to have a big belly, really look at whether you are anxious/stressed a lot.

as for the original thread.. puddles really respects Mister B for being honest with her. he isn't mean, yet he does talk to puddles about her diet/wellbeing. it makes all the difference. puddles has experienced the gamut.. "if only you'd lose weight you'd be SOOOOO attractive", "don't lose any weight, stop working out because your breasts and hips are gorgeous", .. puddles is for pleasing but those kind of attitudes just piss her off. Mister B actually likes her exactly how she is.. but is also very encouraging and interested in puddles interests. perhaps that is a better way to approach it.. appreciate the person you have, and help them see the positive ways to get to where they/you want them to be.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 10:21:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: leakylee

from hiefer to lard ass, lord we advance everytime one of things pop up.. woohoo..



Well I like the term cow, heifer refers to a cow that hasnt has a calf yet.  So this here cow is gonna get her lard ass up and moving as soon as its warm enough.
" Move your lard ass and go biking/walking/swimming, whatever but stay away from sofa and TV... just 30 minutes of daily walk will be very efficient in helping you loose weight". (Knottydad)
Some people cant just hop up and walk 30 minutes a day. There are valid medical issues with some people about be able to do that.
Besides what fun is it to mess around with someone that looks anorexic, you might break something...

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 10:36:43 AM   
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FW ~~

i did have some really great freakin HOT sex with a very very skinny man ...... the bruises his hips left on mine ..... not so hot.  now i prefer my Man to have "meat"   on His bones

well wishes,
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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 11:28:30 AM   
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I get very wary of folks using the words, "Never, and "Always."

It is important that desire be apart of what foods folks intake. If you are brought up on junk food, or a lot of meat, for example, you are likely going to want to eat it, in a way, you will need it.

When you begin to adjust your food to organic (I wish it was a case of it all came out of the same ground, which is true, but it is the insecticides and stuff they put on it you want to not be ingesting if possible. A doctor friend of mine, told me to avoid fruit and veg from South/Central America, they have no legislation on this stuff and they still use PCB's. He told me they soak the bananas and peppers in it, soak them in it. Sure it came out of the same ground but they so messed with that ground. I dont understand why they dont stop putting poison on our food so we can simply eat good food. Sheesh) you begin to prefer organic food over the other kind. I heard a guy on a talk show say stick to the outer parts of the grocery store when you shop. Try not to buy ingredients with more than 8 ingredients in them.

I also feel weight is often connected to held, denied emotions as well. As deeper stuff gets moving the old held body essence can go.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 12:34:57 PM   
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hehe..
you go Wisteria..

I know the deal with heifers. It is the one reason why I actually dont mind getting called one. No youngins floatin around here, but my point is everytime one of these threads pops up it gets so junior high. Kinda creepy, I keep thinking as adults we might be above that kinda crap, but hey what do I know..hehe..

smooches
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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 1:25:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Knottydad

Is it too honest ??
 Oh it is not a matter of honesty but of manners, tact, civility, politeness etc. I am glad that you edited it out of your post.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 2:53:20 PM   
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I'm a big girl, and I'd kick my Sir's butt for lying to me about how an outfit looked or whether he thought I was fat.  It's right there in all the pictures.  I'm fat.  There is a tactful way to handle it, though, and I do expect tact and respect.  Beating someone down isn't going to get a healthy result.

That said, I joined Weight Watchers with my mother-in-law and have lost a total of 21 pounds in the last couple of months.  My Sir is completely supportive of my efforts and is full of praise when I report to him after weigh ins and when he comes home from the oilfield. When I asked to join WW, he told me if he didn't like the food he was a big boy and could cook his own, but he hasn't and now he's losing some of the weight he's been wanting to lose, too.

He does help me out when my motivation runs a bit low.  I'll tell him that I don't feel like working out tonight and he'll order me to because he knows it will get me one workout closer to goal and that I feel a lot better afterwards.  He wouldn't do it if I had pneumonia, but he will patch over the potholes for me from time to time.  Last night he sent me an email telling me not to touch the chocolate donuts the UMs brought home; if he hadn't, I'd have totally had a couple and then felt bad about it and probably had a bad food night.  It helps because it's done in a loving and respectful way in that he knows I'm trying and that sometimes I just need an extra bump to keep going.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/3/2008 8:53:37 PM   
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I read one page of this horseshit and laughed and said "only on collarme"

OP, don't listen to any of these divorced from all reality opinions.

The answer to "does this make my butt look fat?" is NO.

The answer to "do I look fat to you?" is NO.

Lie. Yes. This is the one white lie that does not make you a dishonest man.


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RE: Weight problem - 4/4/2008 1:57:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChemistryMaster1

Greetings!!

First of all, I do not and will not judge a person by the shell they come in; they are all beautiful creations from God.

Now here is my Question:

Will a Dom/Master lie to his/her Sub to make him/her feel better about his/ her weight?

I am really learning something new here everyday and pardon me if I posted silly topics which may not interest many people.


Pharoh




Mine did, and I wish he hadn't because it made it hurt ten times more when he finally came out and said I had to lose weight.  It made me wonder if he was lying when he said I was beautiful, and it made me regret all the times I dressed 'sexy' (ie half naked) because he probably thought I looked gross.


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RE: Weight problem - 4/4/2008 1:58:07 AM   
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oops that was me posting ^^

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RE: Weight problem - 4/4/2008 5:52:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory


The notion that calories appear on your body from any source other than food is insane.  The notion that anything other than metabolic and physical activity consumes those calories is also insane.  Control those two and you will lose or gain weight, period.



Calories do not appear on the body without eating this is true..however they can stay there for many reasons that have nothing to do with physical activity and a lot to do with metabolics and medications.

My average food intake is 1200 calories a day including snacks. I take Symlin so even that is currently under reduction as I get nauseous halfway through the meal and the dog benefits. However over HALF of the drugs for diabetes including insulin have a lovely side effect of making it HARDER to lose weight and easier to gain. Read the inserts people, I did after a Endocrinologist and a Nutritionalist pointed it out. They say lose weight then sabotage any chance of doing so with the meds. GRRRRRRRRRRRR My workout should have rivaled Hulk Hogans to lose 30 lbs.

PT and exercise should also have me losing weight, they don't. I have just had my thyroid killed (weight gained when in hyper) and spent more time on steroids for asthma than I care to think about 13 years ago. It has taken me 13 years of low calorie eating, exercise (mostly walking) to lose an entire 130 lb person. Due to diabetic neuropathy in my legs, feet and inner left ear walking has become more difficult but I am hanging in there trying to stimulate the nerves. The fun part? At the rate of neuropathy deterioration and balance problems I may be making a wheelchair part of my physical regimen in another couple of years. I am fighting to prevent that, but I can fall walking across a tile floor.

Meanwhile with all of this, I have managed to lose 10 lbs in 5 months. Sigh. Health issues can do a great deal towards helping you maintain the weight even when you work to lose it.

poenkitten (ever in the battle for pain, Sams and to lose the last flipping 40 lbs..OUT Damned Fat OUT)

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RE: Weight problem - 4/4/2008 10:10:36 PM   
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*nods*

I also take drugs that make me tired, and lower my metabolism.  I probably eat around 1200-1500 calories in a day and yet I've been gaining weight.

I got some diet pills, started taking them yesterday. I lost a kilo overnight, and it can't be water weight because I haven't peed yet :P  I'm taking two kinds, one that increases the metabolism a nd one that binds the fat from the food youe at so it doesn't get digested. Hopefully these will work because I seriously miss having a hot body :(

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RE: Weight problem - 4/5/2008 1:04:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

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ORIGINAL: LadyRainfire

And weight (whether heavy or light) is genetics. .




nope.. your weight is about how much food you put into your mouth and how many calories you burn from that food.

The reasons that you over eat, the relationship you have with food, the attitude you have about your body may well be something that is nurtured in you... but as an intelligent self controlling adult ... your weight has nothing to do with your DNA. Scientists may well prove beyond doubt there is a gene that supresses the signal to your brain that you are full, but as an adult you can make the decision to be logical, you have eaten a meal, it was sufficient to fill you, deal with the hunger pangs.. lose the weight

Until you can control and take responsibility for your relationship with food... you will always have a battle with your weight ..

I am over weight because I have a relationship with food that produces a negative outcome...its comforting to eat, I grew up in  family where the social focus was feeding times, feeding people is demonstrating love ..more food...more love. I eat when I am lonely, bored, frightened or upset. Now I realise this... I can stand in front of the fridge and make the decision...am I actually hungry.. or is my mind craving something that can be temporarily replaced with the feeling of a full stomach. Understanding that about myself, and accepting it,and learning to deal with it, has been one of the single most freeing things that has happened to me in my adult life.


Not necessarily ,  as in the case of hypothyroidism , one can eat less and gain weight

Another issue can be what you are eating which can cause mal absorption problems
I had one dog that I ended up cutting his caloric intake to less tha half reducing protein and fat,  and he was still gaining weight, I ran a thyroid panel on him as a result,   which was not the problem so I finally tried another tactic,  his diet was mostly carbs so instead switched him to high protein and fat and cut the carbs way down  which boosted him to 3 times the calories even more than he was originally getting before putting him on diet food and cutting the quantity  that was when he start slimmimg down and I was taken him  1 or 2 times to the vet for weigh ins just to be sure that he was not going to gain rapidly instead  another issue that was learned was that he had hyper spleenism  after several test to ensure it was not cancer his spleen was growing and had become about 3 times the normal size and the way it was sitting was causing his tummy to look very bloated plus was causing added weight so had  to be factored in for deciding what his weight should be    estimating that the spleen was 6 to 8 lbs more due to increase in size.

So here is 3 examples of weight not being related to caloric intake which can affect humans also


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RE: Weight problem - 4/5/2008 5:53:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kitttty

I read one page of this horseshit and laughed and said "only on collarme"

OP, don't listen to any of these divorced from all reality opinions.

The answer to "does this make my butt look fat?" is NO.

The answer to "do I look fat to you?" is NO.

Lie. Yes. This is the one white lie that does not make you a dishonest man.




.........and I think it pretty much sucks, kittty, that you call what others share on this thread " horseshit" ...and how do you know who is in their reality or not ?  walk a mile in someone elses moccasins before you make a statement like that so easily and hap-hazardly.
 
Tyson said I needed to take the high-road re: your post.
and believe me> I have.
 
 

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RE: Weight problem - 4/5/2008 6:07:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kitttty

I read one page of this horseshit and laughed and said "only on collarme"

OP, don't listen to any of these divorced from all reality opinions.

The answer to "does this make my butt look fat?" is NO.

The answer to "do I look fat to you?" is NO.

Lie. Yes. This is the one white lie that does not make you a dishonest man.




Thank you, I heartily agree with that! 

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RE: Weight problem - 4/5/2008 6:40:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ChemistryMaster1

quote:

ORIGINAL: kitttty

I read one page of this horseshit and laughed and said "only on collarme"

OP, don't listen to any of these divorced from all reality opinions.

The answer to "does this make my butt look fat?" is NO.

The answer to "do I look fat to you?" is NO.

Lie. Yes. This is the one white lie that does not make you a dishonest man.




Thank you, I heartily agree with that! 


Chemistry
  Ok..I'm confused by your responses to those who have responded..
You seem to agree  ( whole-heartedly) with both reactions
>>  lie ...and/or  do not lie.
 
how can that be?
 
how do you handle it personally??
just curious : )
 
Cyndi
 

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RE: Weight problem - 4/5/2008 12:18:44 PM   
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i don't want my Master to lie to me about anything.

The title of the thread is "Weight Problem"

For whom is it a problem?  Answer that question first and it will be your first clue how to deal with it.

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RE: Weight problem - 4/5/2008 12:38:43 PM   
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The notion that calories appear on your body from any source other than food is insane.  The notion that anything other than metabolic and physical activity consumes those calories is also insane.  Control those two and you will lose or gain weight, period.


There are different types of 'metabolic' activity creating weight.
While pregnant, I had to go on insulin. I was losing weight actively when I got pregnant. They had to take me off my meds and put me on insulin. My control of my food had to become tighter. I kept loosing.
My sugars and A1C stayed up - low enough for my safety, not low enough for the pregnancy. They increased my insulin to 120 units a day. My control of my food went through the roof. Every bite was eaten for health, sugar control, every bite was necessary.
I gained MORE THAN 10 lbs a week. I was eating SIGNIFCATLY less than I had been eating while I was losing.
One of the doctors explained it - although not well enough for me to actually UNDERSTAND it, at all. He said that the insulin forced (and gave the abilty, as well) my body to process already stored fat into sugar, in order to bring my sugar level back up. And this sugar was restored and caused eight gain. I know, I don't quite get it either, but then I don't get, the way I understand diabettes, why diabettics don't lose weight, constantly, when their sugar is out of control, and sometimes they do, but usually they gain. oh, well, the world is full of stuff I do not understand.

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