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What I would have said, but chose not to, because I believed it wouldn't be understood due to assumptions, is this: "I don't care if a woman lays down nude in the middle of the road at 3 a.m., if she says 'no,' it is rape."

How do you think that would have worked out for me?

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ORIGINAL: subtee

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It is (IMHO) very wrong to judge someone on thier looks, appearance, creed, color, sexual orientation.. ect. However if you form an opinon on a person solely based on how they act, what they write.. thier thoughts and how they treat others.... then personaly I see nothing wrong with it.

I agree that assumptions/judgments shouldn't be made on superficialities, but when we are face to face we have the benefit of enhanced communicative information, it seems to me.

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...and what is wrong with open debate. (at least in politics) Most threads I simply just back out of if I know there is nothing positive I have to add... or if I feel like a rant is comming on.

I don't have a problem at all with open debate, although the older I get the less I am interested in participating. But I will tell you that doing that very thing--backing out without commenting is what started me thinking about assumptions. Yesterday I read about "personal responsibility." It seemed to me that many were saying, (in so many words), "you really need to own your shit" and then posting their own examples of personal responsibility with caveats and explanations, even while ultimately saying, "but I take responsibility for my part..." It seemed to me it about looking outward and I believe the OP was about looking within.

What I would have said, but chose not to, because I believed it wouldn't be understood due to assumptions, is this: "I don't care if a woman lays down nude in the middle of the road at 3 a.m., if she says 'no,' it is rape."

How do you think that would have worked out for me?

Tee hee

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

TY for the huggles, Gwyn. [:D]

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I am sure that I frequently make an ass of myself. More than once I've heard that I was a stuck up bitch to someone I just met, from someone close to me. Even as a child I was quick to size people up and determine whether or not they were worth my time. My mother blamed my dad on that trait.

Unfortunately, neither my dad nor I was usually wrong in our assessment. I think, even in written communication, people give off certain cues that are very telling. I have a very sensitive bullshit metre. I cannot tollerate it.

I guess if I was proven wrong more, I would be more prone, to being less quick to judge. I just kinda have found that if it looks like shit and smells like shit........it's probably shit.

My ability to make quick judgments has saved my ass and that of those close to me on several occasions. Even those that have called me on it

Example........."God, did you have to be so cold to Frank at the party tonight?" 
Me: "Frank is a snake in the grass putz you would be smart to stay away from."
Them: "WHAT?!?! Frank is a nice guy! How can you say that?"
Them after being around Frank some more: "That Frank is a sneaky cocksucker! You won't believe what he did!!"
Me: "Ahhh, yes I will..."

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Today is my birthday...A totally self serving statement...Gift wrap the gash shots ladies.

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You already have linkies to my nudies.

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ORIGINAL: subtee

This is what I'm saying.