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RE: "Obama Can't Win"; Hillary Clinton - 4/7/2008 2:47:53 PM   
OrionTheWolf


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ORIGINAL: Owner59


"For all your gyrations and straw man arguments, you cannot evade the simple reality that socialism necessarily invalidates individual thought and individual expression." 
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Can you give us three valid examples of this?

Or even one?


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The folks that I see crushing liberty, are the conservatives.



Actually both parties have and do. When a government is not the servant of the people, it is what occurs.

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Question,and it`s a biggy.

Which party was it that suspended "habeas corpus"?

A law,concept and human right held by good men ,since before the Constitution or before the Bill of Rights.

Without habeas corpus,about 9/10s of the Bill of Rights is invalidated.

Try and name any part of the Bill of Rights, that can exist without habeas corpus?

It`s not possible. 

Again,which political party suspended habeas corpus?


Both have. Here is a refresher of memory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066

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http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/habeuscorpus.htm

Btw,the conservatives have bragged about suspending this law,in case you were gearing up to deny it was suspended.
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Which party is subsidizing big business and offering huge tax cuts to folks with the most money/wealth?


Both have. you have to do a little more digging for the Dem side but if someone else wishes to educate you, they can provide sources.

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Which party rewrote the labor laws,throwing millions of blue-collar laborers into "management status",and therefore
cutting any and all over-time pay to them?


Have you ever read the economic studies about the models if it had not been done? I suppose you would have prefered the other way. Both parties have done something to hurt blue collar workers.

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Was it liberals that did such a calculated, one-sided and unfair deal like that?


Politicians of both parties have. Stop being a cheerleader. Just standing around and saying "my side is better than your side" does nothing and increases division. How about forcing the politicians into doing something.

< Message edited by OrionTheWolf -- 4/7/2008 2:48:55 PM >


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