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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah
IT TASTES A LOT LIKE CHICKEN.

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

We are very different people.... whilst both of us actualy believe in the fact that our way works for us but if another way works for someone else, good for them, its fun to get in the sparring ring occassionaly and have a right royal slugfest... especialy when neither are taking the 'jibes' personaly 

Bottom line, there are some out there who don't want to submit, they maybe just 'bottoms' which os fine if they are involved with a Top... but such simply isn't compatable with Me. When folks are honest about what they are, no problem as such wouldn't end up in the position of Me having any expectations of them, I wouldn't get involved with such beyond maybe a play session at a club. If however such present themself as a submissive but aren't capable of submitting.... I'm not going to put up with the game playing bratty bullshit, they will be kicked to the curb.

That is different than what occurs with an actual submissive who is just needing control, I do that as a matter of course. My current girl was thought to be a brat by many who knew her because she would constantly push... thing was, every time she pushed, the people she was pushing gave ground.... till she met Me. she isn't and never was a brat, it isn't a game, just her needing someone who will hold those drawn lines, those rules and bounderys and not let her away with it.

she is still a cheeky little cowbag on occassion, but most of the pushing is no longer there because she is now secure, knows her place and knows she can't get away with it. The banter and resistance play is good though, she is still a very spirited girl

I have no wish to waste My time on brats, they are simply not compatable with what I require.

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ORIGINAL: MasterWilliam55

If you and your Master ever get up to Toronto. You would be very welcome in our community. It's often humor, not love, that gets you past the difficult times.

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ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub
Well then it seems to me that you did get yourself a "brat"...at least by others definition..and you drew your line...so essentially you did waste your time on a "brat" and found gold...and found the required compatability as well...so essentially it must come down to what kind of "brat" a Dominant will tolerate and or educate.....~buffs nails~...oops, sorry..:0)..I tend to be "cheeky" as well...Tempting

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ORIGINAL: devil1963

How does one deal with a “brat” ? They seem to have no idea of where there head is.
To me it feels like nothing more than attn grabbing ……….. any ideas?   

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

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ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub
Well then it seems to me that you did get yourself a "brat"...at least by others definition..and you drew your line...so essentially you did waste your time on a "brat" and found gold...and found the required compatability as well...so essentially it must come down to what kind of "brat" a Dominant will tolerate and or educate.....~buffs nails~...oops, sorry..:0)..I tend to be "cheeky" as well...Tempting

My viewpoint... MY definition of brat... I frankly don't give a monkeys what your definition is.  My girl isn't and never was a brat... as she wasn't playing the games that I define bratting, what she was doing was looking for someone who could not be pushed, that is simply a submissive looking for the control and security she needs.

The difference between Focus and Myself is it looks like he uses a wider definition, one which includes elements he tollerates. I use a narrower definition, is all, what I call a brat is something I won't tollerate.

Cheeky, I can enjoy.... and not just because you are cute

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

The difference between Focus and Myself is it looks like he uses a wider definition, one which includes elements he tollerates. I use a narrower definition, is all, what I call a brat is something I won't tollerate.

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ORIGINAL: Fluke

It saddens me to see that so many people just don't understand (or want to understand) brats. There is a great difference between "real" brats and people who use the BDSM label "brat" about themselves. I actually even doubt there are any "real" brats who use the BDSM label "brat".
I also find it interesting that so many people will automatically dismiss me as someone "not worth the bother" and "not good enough for me" because I label myself a brat.
Ignorance is bliss.