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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 8:30:53 PM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: TwistedLeather

my curiosity is making me ask this... but who came up with the whole "glory hole" thing to begin with? People who already have STD's so they don't care? Doesn't seem to fit into the whole Safe, Sane, and Consensual thing to me.


They came into existence before knowledge of STI's was common or accurate. They continue because there is a very real kink for dangerous and/or annoymous situations.

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 9:06:16 PM   
lalbobbilynn


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Status: offline 		Am so pleased another asked the WTF question!!! Am so missing the fun on either side (D/s) of this situation, however, ummmmmm my advice would be, buy a dozen varying dildos, tie a board with a knot hole to her fanny, and well ....... there ya go!!!
The Glory Hole kinda strikes me as pimping another out, minus the monetary exchange!!!

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 9:09:06 PM   
lubegirl


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Status: offline 		ooh it does sound dangerous, My MASTER has complete control of me and i trust him completely if HE were to do something like this to me, i think he would plan it with several men HE already knows..or a bdsm party where other DOMS are respectful to HIM and themselves and wear protection before they abuse me sexually,
please playsafe!
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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 9:12:15 PM   
Luciferica


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Status: offline 		Ummm...I don't care HOW well I know other guys, they are not randomly having buttsecks with my sub..

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 9:16:18 PM   
Hippiekinkster


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ORIGINAL: TwistedLeather

my curiosity is making me ask this... but who came up with the whole "glory hole" thing to begin with? People who already have STD's so they don't care? Doesn't seem to fit into the whole Safe, Sane, and Consensual thing to me.

I ran into my first glory holes in the 70s, way before SSC and the AIDS epidemic.

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 9:23:39 PM   
HKG3


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ORIGINAL: BigSBguy

We have also thought about her just giving guys hand jobs......... she has agreed to get atleast 5 guys off. she will have clothes pins on her lips, and they will be removed after each guy has finished.


I don't get the clothes pins on her lips part...? Which pair and why...???

Furthermore it is extremely risky in any way shape or form.....

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:13:35 PM   
Fluke


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Status: offline 		I thought glory holes began as a gay thing...? Where men who for some reason or another hadn't come out as gay could have sex anonymously. I remember hearing someplace that restrooms along the highways were very popular in that respect. Until the cops caught on to that, heheh..

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:24:14 PM   
Typcynic


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Status: offline 		I've noticed some commenters have linked glory holes with anal sex.  While it can be done, the primary sex mode is either oral or hand job.  But regardless, it's a very high risk practice unless you know everyone and everyone is tested beforehand.

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:24:22 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		Glory holes are a myth and Old Guard dominants starting out as bottoms had nothing to do with supplying fresh young meat.

I say that as someone who has hung out in gay bars LONG before I was legal and was sitting at The Stud in SF the other night drinking with some leatherman.

Poor girl has hooked up with someone who has confused hot fantasy with a rather lethal reality.  Chances are she will be fine, but he is making her roll some ugly dice just so he can try and get it up without a blue pill.  Sad.

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:27:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Glory holes are a myth and Old Guard dominants starting out as bottoms had nothing to do with supplying fresh young meat.

I say that as someone who has hung out in gay bars LONG before I was legal and was sitting at The Stud in SF the other night drinking with some leatherman.

Poor girl has hooked up with someone who has confused hot fantasy with a rather lethal reality.  Chances are she will be fine, but he is making her roll some ugly dice just so he can try and get it up without a blue pill.  Sad.
Glory holes are a myth? Really? I guess I was hallucinating the one at Club Baths and the one at Mary's here in Atlanta then.

And what do you know about the so-called "Old Guard" You were still in diapers.

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:30:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HKG3

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ORIGINAL: BigSBguy

We have also thought about her just giving guys hand jobs......... she has agreed to get atleast 5 guys off. she will have clothes pins on her lips, and they will be removed after each guy has finished.


I think I must being thick today, I don't get the clothes pins thing either. Can someone explain it please?

I don't get the clothes pins on her lips part...? Which pair and why...???

Furthermore it is extremely risky in any way shape or form.....


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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:31:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BigSBguy

We have also thought about her just giving guys hand jobs......... she has agreed to get atleast 5 guys off. she will have clothes pins on her lips, and they will be removed after each guy has finished.


That sounds very hot.

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:43:05 PM   
Emperor1956


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Status: offline 		Fast Replies:  1.  My my my aren't we a judgmental crowd?  The OP didn't say anything about the sex practices involved in his little game.  All of you immediately assumed unprotected sex.  Interesting.  Had he said "I'm taking my slut to her first all-naked water polo game" would you have jumped down his throat?  "Her first dungeon party"?   No.  If you are gonna castrate the guy, you MIGHT first see if what he said is what you read.

And why are we so judgemental?  This gets sticky.  Maybe its the "glory hole = mostly gay practice = I don't want that in my safe, hetero D/s world!"  Think about why so many of you overreacted, hmmmm?  (Except for drummerpunk, nice post.)  Am I saying you are all flaming bigots who hate gays?  No.  (only some of you).   BUT I am saying that the overreaction speaks volumes about the supposed egalitarian hetero scene. 

2.  Not to let the OP off the hook -- sounds like a wanker's fantasy to me.  I'd be interested in a discussion of the dynamic you are seeking?  Slut?  Shame?  She'll do anything for me?   But I think you are just posting to get some jerk-off material.

3.  Michael, where does that "glory holes" are a myth come from?   You are simply wrong.  They were a staple of just about every ABB I'd seen pre-HIV epidemic.  I find it hard to believe with your experience you haven't seen them.  Also, Frank Miller documents his first time touching another man in a story set in San Fran c. 1950, if memory serves me.  You slipped up bad here.

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:49:53 PM   
velvetluxe


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Status: offline 		Not being judgemental, I am genuinely surprised so many people don't know what a glory hole is. Maybe it's just my dirty mind or being exposed to the *concepts* of such practices from a young age...    Just to lighten the mood, anyone remember the scene in The Sweetest Thing where Cameron Diaz gets poked in the eye with a penis when trying to see what's in a glory hole? Lol a lesson for all those unaware of such things- if you see a hole in the wall, don't put various body parts near the vicinity. Ahh, good times...

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:50:29 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		My only slip up was in assuming the sarcasm about glory holes was obvious.  It is one of the many reasons I laugh when I read people pontificating about the nobility, honor, etc of the "old guard" by people who have never been around gay men nor read any of the writings from that era.

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:54:23 PM   
lighthearted


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ORIGINAL: velvetluxe

Not being judgemental, I am genuinely surprised so many people don't know what a glory hole is. Maybe it's just my dirty mind or being exposed to the *concepts* of such practices from a young age...    Just to lighten the mood, anyone remember the scene in The Sweetest Thing where Cameron Diaz gets poked in the eye with a penis when trying to see what's in a glory hole? Lol a lesson for all those unaware of such things- if you see a hole in the wall, don't put various body parts near the vicinity. Ahh, good times...


I guess they didn't read any cheesy Judith Krantz novels either...ie "Scruples", where there's practically a whole chapter devoted to 'em.

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:56:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you Emperor.

Any fantasy can be carried out safely, while making a few compromises. You just have to be creative. Think like you are making a movie, and are dealing with actors. Stunts are make believe. No one is getting their heads blown off, but damn it looks like it(and likely would feel like it if you were behind the trigger).

Some fantasies are elaborate, and would require alot of planning. Others are quite simple.

There are plenty of ways to safely scene with a glory hole.
1. Use trusted and clean men
2. Use dildos in place of the real thing(they even make ones that ejaculate)
3. Put yourself through the hole(that one kinda sounds fun, and I'll likely make myself a little glory hole setup in the garage)

Be creative, and very much be aware of why she's doing it, why you want it done, and if she's ok with it. Safewords are there for a reason.

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 10:57:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

My only slip up was in assuming the sarcasm about glory holes was obvious.  It is one of the many reasons I laugh when I read people pontificating about the nobility, honor, etc of the "old guard" by people who have never been around gay men nor read any of the writings from that era.

No, that went over like a Led Zeppelin.

Read my post where I touch on a couple of my experiences way back when. http://www.collarchat.com/m_1757652/mpage_4/tm.htm

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/7/2008 11:07:28 PM   
grinnrat


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Status: offline 		Keep in mind, this is a 21-year-old with a screwy sense of humor talking,  but I always thought the decrease in popularity for glory holes came not just from fear of AIDS but the increase in popularity for Lou Reed.
"You mean...THAT could come through...THAT? Uh-uh. I'm finding myself a vasoline bar with some VIP restrictions, baby!"

(Please note, there is no genuine offense meant here to ANYBODY. Not even Lou Reed, fugley though he may have become)

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RE: Glory Hole - 4/8/2008 1:39:54 AM   
snugglepet


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Status: offline 		i would suggest you educate yourself and her, make sure that you both understand truly the implications of a "glory hole" and the emotions that may come along with that.  Fantasizing about being a slut and actually being made one, are two very different things and carry with them a lot of mental and emotional baggage.  It can be a lot for someone who has never done it before.  That is the least of which is concerning STI's and other nasty things that she may catch.  My suggestion do not do it unless or until you are both educated, and understand that this is something that may serve to drive a wedge between you.  Take care of her.

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