LadyPact
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
I'm aware that you haven't claimed the distinction, I've just been reading your posts over time and seen a pattern of concern for decorum, protocol, and peer review in the application of the term "Mistress" or "Master", and I associate those values with the Old Guard. And I do appreciate the list you provide, although it wasn't necessary--my only point was that people who have earned "Master/Mistress" as a title in the Old Guard style, versus those who can apply it as a simple relationship term, is really a very small number.
In any case, the number of very young people who could call themselves "Master" or "Mistress" by that measure would be approximately the same number who could really call themselves "sensei" in the martial arts before the age of 30. It is extremely difficult to acquire that level of expertise and skill so young.
Believe it or not, I appreciated this. I found it to be based in courtesy for My opinion, even if it doesn't agree with yours. I think we can both agree that it isn't necessary to be of the same mind about everything, and yet still hold the other's opinion to be worthwhile.
One point that you bring up is the specific difference that is seen in personal relationships. I don't disagree with this. Nobody has invited Me into their personal lives to make the decision for them as to whether they are a Dominant or a Mistress. You have no idea how relieved that I am not in that position of responsibility.
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ORIGINAL: BoiJen
Ya know...I had the age conversation tonight. And always being the youngest in the room, I get asked my opinion often. So when I got asked what I think about reactions and statements like Lady Pact's and LotusSong's, I had to explain.
Those are two different types of reactions. Lady Pact's is based on an actual ideal and standard of responsibility. While I may not agree with her stance, she has clear and firm logic to her arguement. AND personal logic varies from individual to individual.
The reality of the situation is there is no magic age. There is no magic qualifying factor. IT's a matter of personal opinion. And as a part of the "next generation," I can, and do, totally respect where persons such as Lady Pact are coming from and respectfully disagree. Persons like LotusSong, just show me that, even when people get older, they still have some growing up to do.
The boi
"So bite me, if you don't like it."
First of all, jen, you should know by now that I would never bite you without MsK's permission. (I hope you recognize that for the bit of humor that I was trying to convey.)
Again, I see this as a situation where we can, respectfully, agree to disagree. It's enough for Me that others realize I have a basis for My own ideas. It is based on personal logic. One that was formed and defined over a number of years. It is still a work in progress, as I consider Myself a work in progress. It is enough for Me that it is recognized that I have a basis for My reasoning, even if it doesn't agree with theirs.
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ORIGINAL: LilMissMisery
Well said on all counts, ShaktiSama.
IMO - There is a difference between the number of summers you've seen and the things you've learned in those summers.
I would think that instead of snarking down their noses at the younger generation of dominants, those older and more experienced dominants "above" us ought to live up to their attitudes and lead by example. How else are we, the young dominant unwashed, to acquire knowledge? Certainly not for the submissives, who are apparently no more than guinea pigs. And certainly not from each other, because we of course know nothing. And those silly, irrelevant sites online like CollarMe and Bondage mean nothing compared to real-world experience. Where, then, does this leave us?
Furthermore - who ever said that the younger dominants don't look up to the older, and try to take appropriate cues and learn what we can? I think the underlying assumption here is that younger dominants feel they have nothing to learn. In some cases, of course, this is true - but not in all.
Whoever said those 'summers' do not have their own marks from the sun? As I approach 40, I'm well aware of them.
I would hope that in this discussion, I did not 'snark down My nose at the younger Dominants'. It was never My intention to do so, nor to set Myself 'above' anyone else. I do have My own standards, I assure you, and I apply them to Myself before I would dare apply them to anyone else.
Please do not think that I consider the next generations of young dominants the 'great unwashed'. I promise you that this is not the case. I have a great respect for those who persue this life, away from the computer screen. (Another debate entirely.)
Where does it leave those who are younger? I hope it leaves them in the chair right beside Mine, at demos and events, in the persuit of knowledge. I hope it puts them right there with Me, at classes for new skills. To sit with Me at munches where, sometimes, there are good people and bad food.
Having more to learn is not just the case of the younger. It's for those of us who are older, too.
For the younger who would hope to learn from the more experienced, I would say to you, seek us out. I promise that we are there. We are not on a pedistal, nor are we unapproachable. What is the worst that could happen should you ask to learn from us? Perhaps, we might also learn from you.
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