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RE: This aint PBS, I don't need a PSA - 4/13/2008 6:53:26 AM   
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I learn stuff here everyday - I'm sure lots of us do.  I learn stuff in the vanila world everyday - in fact a day where I've learned something new is a good f***ing day.

Shrug - I just ignore the posts that don't contain content I'm interested in.... guess that makes me an arsehole HAHAHAHA

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RE: This aint PBS, I don't need a PSA - 4/13/2008 5:45:50 PM   
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I wanted to thank you specifically for your reply. It took a great deal of thought to post it. (and time to type it all out). Not much else to add to what your points were, so I will leave it at thank you.
*edited for typo*

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RE: This aint PBS, I don't need a PSA - 4/13/2008 6:01:21 PM   
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As for those that tout my inexperience, well, so be it. I don't get into battles of I've done this or that more than so and so. Think of me as you will. The only thing in what any one has to say, that do I believe is, I am an asshole. I can live with that. Whatever else any one says about me... They don't know me. And even the ones who think they do, don't.

On to more pressing issues.

The bitching I am doing here is not of the "do not espouse safety" variety. It is more along the lines of, be more specific in HOW to be safe. Telling some one to be safe when practicing breath play is sort of idiocentric. Telling them to cup the mouth of thier partner with your own mouth and opening your throat/lungs for them to breath through you, is more helpful. (maybe not in this exact manner). Besides, breath play is NEVER SAFE! But, with SPECIFIC instructions and or advice, some of the riskd CAN be reduced. So I again complain about the spouting off at the mouth, that SSC/RACK/COMMUNICATE/BLAHBLAHBLAH, is MOST unhelpful. In no way does the professtation of these acronyms, do any benifit for the poster wanting to learn how to do this, SAFELY.

So with this addition, I digress. Again.

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RE: This aint PBS, I don't need a PSA - 4/13/2008 6:33:08 PM   
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I do tell people, in detail what I know. And if that's wrong, I correct myself.

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RE: This aint PBS, I don't need a PSA - 4/13/2008 6:37:57 PM   
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i learn something new from this site everytime i venture here.

i adore PBS, minus Barney; i just want to beat his happy ass in the ground!!
b.~

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RE: This aint PBS, I don't need a PSA - 4/14/2008 7:42:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lalbobbilynn

i learn something new from this site everytime i venture here.

i adore PBS, minus Barney; i just want to beat his happy ass in the ground!!
b.~


Meanie!!!!!

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RE: This aint PBS, I don't need a PSA - 4/14/2008 8:41:42 AM   
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Yes, yes, yes it is necessary. In fact, I'll say it right now: safe/sane/consensual, and I'll put it on MY profile. That way, I will weed out anyone who doesn't like seeing those three words.

Thanks for the idea, sport!


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ORIGINAL: HerLord

{Fuck the flame retardant suit.  Jumping in with both feet, and a two figured salute}

Having been on this board now for 2 whole months, one of the things I am gratified and pleased to be able to say is that I respect the opinions and thoughts of the intelligent folks on here.  It is my opinion that most of the people here have enough experience in BDSM and life to know what is right for them.

However, I have a gripe.  My gripe is this: no matter how experienced the poster, if it’s an issue of WIITWD, every single time there will be at least ONE responder (usually more) who beat the drum of safe/sane/consensual, as well as, as one poster put it, the old “communication and negotiation mantra.”  Even if they are new to the lifestyle or new to the boards, if they haven’t developed the common sense of self-preservation, they’re too fucking stupid to be included in the gene pool anyway.   

Is it contributory to discussion for someone to say this EVERY SINGLE TIME!?  Isn’t it possible that common sense dictates that you don’t willingly risk your life, your sanity, or your happiness for the sake of sex? For those who don’t heed common sense, thank you for removing yourselves from the gene pool.   As for communication, well, no relationship can EVER be successful without it, so it seems self-evident. 

To me, being experienced not just in BDSM, but the basic painfulness of life, in particular relationships, it’s insulting.  Also, those who repetitively need to hear it are those who have to be of such a low intelligence that they will fail in any relationship anyway.  We know that it has to be SSC.  We know that it has to be RACK or whatever the hell acronym you chose to use.  Of course it has to be consensual…when it’s not that’s called rape.  It’s against the law.  As far as safe or risk aware, if you are going in with blinders on refusing to be responsible for your own safety, you’re too fucking ignorant to breathe, so you get what you deserve.  If you have to ask if it’s safe, it probably isn’t, so educate yourself on it, or don’t do it. 

Give me some input that hasn’t been said ten million times already.  Try to think of something original to say, instead of regurgitating the same old crap over and over again that isn’t of any help to anyone that has at least an ounce of common fucking sense.  As for the rest of them that don’t, fuck ‘em; get them out of the gene pool.

I’d be interested in hearing the thoughts of those who do this oh, so often, and of hearing the thoughts of those who feel the same.  So, tell me, what are your thoughts?


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RE: This aint PBS, I don't need a PSA - 4/14/2008 9:14:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: robertolapiedra
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
/flame on
Hardcore BDSM is where it started and it has slowly become unfashionable in the fluffy SM (stand & model) politically correct SSC crowds.  I understand that BDSM has D/s in the middle of it but that is where it belongs, in the middle, not on top of a soapbox proclaiming we need a SSC set of etiquette rules.  BDSM did just fine back when kinky vanilla attended swingers parties instead spouting SSC in our dungeons and at newcommers to our community. 
/flame off

Hello ResidentSadist. DS in the middle? I have always wondered who the hell put that in the middle anyway. In my opinion there is no DS in BDSM. That is why SSC got so ''vanillised'' and became ''preventive'' to the point of killing edge play (the recent ''politically correct'' SSC is not what SSC was about originally, it included RACK type consent depending on the experience of players).

For me, Bondage Discipline Sadism and Masochism is a play thingie. A sexual play thingie. DS is a power echange (or what ever you want to call it) that could be done without sex even (if you read some of the posters). Hell, you have some sites accepting traditional marriage as a BDSM subgroup!

Dear Robert,
I agree.  When I grew up, BDSM was Bondage Discipline Sadism and Masochism.  Also, you mentioned the sub divided political camps… we are all defined by the fact we share kink.  We are sub groups under one political flag of kink, not sub groups imposing judgement on each other.  When I grew up, it was more of a "my kink is ok, your kink is ok" mood. 

 
SSC seems miss leading to those that swallow all that fluff and think that is the core of BDSM.  As mentioned by so many, it’s more suited to vanilla kink credo than the origins of BDSM.  And as an example of how SSC is ruining BDSM, it seems that those judgemental noobs think there is something wrong with vanilla kink or swinging because they are so busy trying to be "real" and "true" at their lifestyle roles.  
 
I have seen a few inaccurate and misleading replies in this thread from people with thousands of posts to their credit on these forums.  Some claim there is no difference between different aspects of BDSM.  Some proclaim that defining those differences is limiting and puts people in a box.  Semantic word games like that could confuse newcomers.  Claiming we should discard established definitions of the words we use to communicate is like claiming the difference between the definition of boys and girls is irrelevant.  Using logic like boys and girls are the same because we are all human just misses the point of the OP.  Use semantic word game to support illogical conclusions is silly and it is a shame those people are such prolific posters on these forums.
 
So I extend a passing ^5, salute you for your articulate reply and thank the OP for starting this thread. 
 
Best Wishes,
Kalon Eric


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RE: This aint PBS, I don't need a PSA - 4/14/2008 11:51:02 PM   
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SSC is for weenies.  It's not a good party if nobody dies.

Ok, now that I have your attention, there is one benefit to having the Safety Sluts around.  They are so much fun to terrify and then, when they complain to someone, have everyone in the dungeon laugh at them.

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