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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 1:36:54 PM

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Bugs. I'm totally fine with any dom wanting to protect me from bugs, or birds.

EEEEEEEK! I'm totally with you on the bug one. Any Bug-Killer-Extrordinairre can be a friend of mine anyday.

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 1:37:20 PM

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I think I have been hurt most, from people whose aim was to keep me from harm. Family, men in my life, people that mean something to me in my life are the only ones capable of harming me.

I say that as someone who has been raped, molested, ect from non caring members of my life. Those incidences are here and gone. I survived because in the scheme of things, those were just bad days.

But when someone who says they love me hurts me.. that cuts deeper than any ourside source could deliver.

It makes me nervous when someone says they want to keep me safe.
Kyst

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 1:51:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I think I have been hurt most, from people whose aim was to keep me from harm. Family, men in my life, people that mean something to me in my life are the only ones capable of harming me.

I say that as someone who has been raped, molested, ect from non caring members of my life. Those incidences are here and gone. I survived because in the scheme of things, those were just bad days.

But when someone who says they love me hurts me.. that cuts deeper than any ourside source could deliver.

It makes me nervous when someone says they want to keep me safe.
Kyst

Kyst,

This is why I feel the need to MEAN it when I say it.

See these things are said by those who have NO intent on meaning them however I find that I do. There are times that I am not PHYSICALLY ABLE to maintain this statement (I.e they don't want me or won't let me)

However the fact that you have been hurt by those who did means that if I say it it needs to mean that much more so that you can see that those words AREN'T always empty.

The part I underlined is the saddest truth about the world of What it is that we do and the whole world round. we have gotten to a point where saying these things does not inspire the responsibility it once had to stand by them.

I am NOT a Captain Save-a-sub, but I do know that when I say something I have a responsibility to MYSELF FIRST to be honorable with my word otherwise I become worthless to myself. for I think somoene who is NOT worth thier word is NOT worth anything.

Steel

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 2:08:16 PM

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I don't know what protection other Doms do, but I can give you this example of what MY Dom (Master) has done:

Last May, when my ex-husband died, He took time from work and flew from Fl to NY with me and my three ums to accompany us to the funeral. He had no respect for the man, never met him, even, and knew how badly I had been treated by this side of the family.

He knows I can take care of my kids- the momma bear thing, but He decided to go with us to protect ME. No one was going to be rude or hurt me while He was there.

He never left my side for the two days of the ordeal. All 6'2, hunky broodingness of Him.

Nobody was rude to me.

Now, THAT's protection.

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 2:11:17 PM

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It was mainly this fact that brought me to truely RESPECT and find your Master an Honorable Man......

Think about it there are only Two Zoobles in the entire world.

He is a good man and you are equally a good woman, The two of you together are the reason I keep at this as I have. I believe that there is a goal to be achieved.

Steel

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 2:17:59 PM

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OMG, Steel. You made me cry.

<hugs>

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 2:27:10 PM

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for me... i think protection has to come from someone that can be trusted, and protection for me is needed mostly from myself, my own weakness, lack of experience or unreasponable self standards... someone once described themselves to me as a governer... a part of a motor that kept the rest of the motor from running to fast, to hard, to long... until it broke... that's what protection has been for me... from a good Dom.

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 2:53:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
This "Community" harbors some of the dumbest motherfuckers I have ever had the chance to come across.

Speak for yourself.

Oh wait, you just did.

Thanks for postin', darlin'. Like they say, if you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. And there some people I never get tired of telling to blow me.

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 2:58:36 PM

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I think most people mean it when they say it. They mean it until they don't mean it anymore. Or something comes up that takes precedence. In my life that has been when their need for what ever, meant more than the promise to protect.
And that is the only thing that can hurt me.
I kind of perfer the promise to be truthful with themselves, and ultimately to not fear being truthful with me.
Kyst

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah
Kyst,

This is why I feel the need to MEAN it when I say it.

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:10:10 PM

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Those most eager to protect you are quite often the ones you should most fear.

I don't believe in protecting my women. My last partner I tought to shoot her snub nose 38 at 125 yards, how to handle a silenced submachinegun and how to dial in a belt fed MG42 heavy machinegun.

Haven't had that chance with BSB but I will teach her and her kids to shoot and shoot well.

Guns are a desperate last resort and there are better ways to avoid trouble but knowing you can defend yourself and have the right to defend yourself from anything ranging from intellectual intimidation to assualt makes a person who doesn't need protectors.

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:11:01 PM

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Illusions u live in due to ur fears and once u overcome it, u come to realize what u just did and accept it as is!! u grow into acceptance of the fact that u do feel better & very secured when ur Dom is around unless He is the cause of ur fears.

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:15:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: Toolking

Illusions u live in due to ur fears and once u overcome it, u come to realize what u just did and accept it as is!! u grow into acceptance of the fact that u do feel better & very secured when ur Dom is around unless He is the cause of ur fears.

What?????

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:17:20 PM

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Some people can take life in their stride and positively relish everything that life has to offer; some people can't.

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:23:14 PM

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CM would tilt over from being lightened on one side so much if we did away with the words, "I'll protect you, keep you warm and secure."

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:25:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

THEY ARE PROTECTING YOU FROM ME...

I am known for eating just the labia of a newbie and throwing the rest away.

*snort*

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:27:09 PM

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OP; according to the answers to a thread I started recently, they are protecting us from scary and rude c-mail.

edited for clarity

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:45:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

The thing that gets me is this "online protection". Does a submissive not know how to turn off the computer? What exactly is being protected? I have never understood it, prolly never will, but to each their own.

MoGa

What exactly is "online protection"? Look out for the pop-up Mistress!!!!!! <dives in front of the evil pop-up ad about to hit Mistress> Whew! That was a close one.... Like i was saying, I dont believe that "online protection" exists outside of the power switch on a person's computer. But what do i know...... i'm just a pup. No, that's just what y'all expect me to think..... lol!

lololololololololololololololol
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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:47:34 PM

Othie

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I don't know, when I first heard of it I thought alot of the same way (protect me from people, or other such things)

but when I really thought about it. It seems that a Dom would probably end up protecting the sub from themselves, or in a more mental way, more then anything. I could see this happening in a few ways. If they had a habit of drinking to much, they would probably forbid the sub to drink. If they had a friend who wasn't a very good friend (i.e. put them down alot in a non-joking way, trying to use them for money items ect) the Dom might talk to them, or if nothing else ask the sub to break away. And of course there is always the subs (like myself) who don't see themselves in a very good light. I know personally this is something my Dom is helping me with.

Yes these are all things that the sub _could_ do for themselves, but personally in the last class, I find it alot easier with my Dom and I don't have to second guess myself all the time, since it's not me saying the things.

just my thoughts though

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:52:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
This "Community" harbors some of the dumbest motherfuckers I have ever had the chance to come across.

Speak for yourself.

Oh wait, you just did.

Thanks for postin', darlin'. Like they say, if you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. And there some people I never get tired of telling to blow me.

Actually I have the ability to discern who is full of shit and who is not....Judging from many of the responses apparently that is a lost art form within your precious "community."

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ORIGINAL: LilMissHaven

I can't figure out what they are protecting me from that I can't already protect myself from.

quote:

Shaktisama
Primary: non-consensual kidnapping, rape, abuse and murder.

Secondary: being more subtly victimized by those who manipulate, deceive, and mislead newcomers to the scene or newcomers to their submission about issues as diverse as their basic rights as submissives or simple play safety.

Tertiary: commonly suffered mood swings and errors in judgment called "sub drop" and "submissive frenzy", which can cause some submissives to make irrational or self-destructive decisions while in the throes of their submissive passions. Having objective, non-submissive third parties to serve as a wall to bounce ideas, plans and incidents off can sometimes be a very good thing.

Sorry if this is all too blunt. The "protection" issue is brought up quite often on this site, usually by frustrated dominants who don't like the idea that another dom could possibly befriend a submissive and keep his/her potential partners honest in any way.

In essence, a real offer of "protection" should come from a friend, or someone who hopes to be a friend. Any other offer of "protection" basically amounts to someone trying to put his/her brand on your buttocks without having to do any work to establish a real D/S relationship. Real offers of friendship and protection are worth their weight in gold. The fake ones should be pretty laughably obvious.

YMMV.

You strike me as one of those "frustrated dominants" ...

Why should any sub be responsible for taking some sort of control of their lives? I mean they are up against the world! Nothing but pathetic lil' wildebeests crossing a river of crocs.

Don't drive, cook, talk or operate heavy machinery....You might be experiencing "sub drop" or sub frenzy." A serious tertiary symptom that will make you lose your mind.

If you don't have a protector you will be raped, murdered or kidknapped...Cuz you are all sooo dumb. Did you ever have someone try and get into your pants when you were dating 'nilla?....Remember when you told the guy "No." Or "fuck off"...It works pretty much the same out here....Use your noodles.

The Shaktisamas of the world want you to believe that you are weak...That you are incapable of not only finding the path but are so inept that you will not even notice that the path falls off into a deep abyss....You are so dumb you will just blunder ahead to your demise.

Perhaps, Shaktisama, you should consider selling Relacor.....

Relacore is yet another product that claims weight gain is the result of excess stress, and believe it or not, not even your fault.

"Excess stomach flab is not your fault. That's the startling conclusion reached by scientists who discovered stress is the likely cause of belly bulge."

"Simply stated, a bulging midsection is not your fault… it’s the harmful combination of everyday stress, overeating, and excess cortisol… all conspiring to keep you overweight, tired, and thick around the middle."

You all need protection as much as you need to start taking Relacor...You are no longer responsible for anything in this world. The blame always lies with someone else or a nasty little stress hormone called cortisol.

When you are done peddling Relacor feel free, if your are capable, of peddling on over and blowing me.

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RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? - 4/15/2008 3:53:08 PM

Missokyst

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huh?

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ORIGINAL: Toolking

Illusions u live in due to ur fears and once u overcome it, u come to realize what u just did and accept it as is!! u grow into acceptance of the fact that u do feel better & very secured when ur Dom is around unless He is the cause of ur fears.

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