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NakedOnMyChain -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 7:02:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa The thing that gets me is this "online protection". [sm=wtf.gif] Does a submissive not know how to turn off the computer? What exactly is being protected? I have never understood it, prolly never will, but to each their own. MoGa [sm=oddballs.gif] insert random joke about Norton Antivirus here Does that mean that McAfee is my cyber-dom if it's offering me online protection?

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 7:19:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael THEY ARE PROTECTING YOU FROM ME... I am known for eating just the labia of a newbie and throwing the rest away. EWWWW!! darnit Michael!

NakedOnMyChain -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 7:22:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Stephann I tend to warn most women interested in me.... that I'd be protecting them, by making them so terrified of me that they flee in terror, never to darken my doorway again. I really haven't figured out why it doesn't work. Hell, my profile has skulls and crossbones, and HERE THERE BE MONSTERS clearly displayed. Stephan Which absolutely made me laugh out loud when I looked at your profile. Yes, I perved you. Whatcha gonna do about it? [:D]

MontrealPhoenix -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 7:46:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah Only because I feel the need to randomly play devils advocate will I answer the UN-popular answer. Personally I am aware that I cannot protect them from anything really, but I have said I am willing to protect them from getting hurt again. Many submissives are filled to the absolute Brim with sob stories and Horror happenings about how this guy came into thier lives turned them upside down and left them a shell of thier former selves. Sometimes it really happened too. So I guess when I have said I want to offer you my protection I guess I mean that I am wanting to protect thier best interest and be the best most honest person I can be. I guess I am saying to them that I am willing to be different and I am willing to protect you from having to continue on being used and abused because I don't want to do that to you. But then again as I understand it all the others guys say that too so I guess offten times saying I want to protect you is just a nice thing to say. It sounds romantic and is usually taken romantically but everyone else is right it literally means very little, but emotionally it can mean the world. When I tell my girl I want to protect her she knows that it means that I was to keep fer from having to protect herself. I know that she knows how to, but I want her to know that I want to keep her from having to find herself in a situation in which she needs protection from as often as possible. In that degree when I say I want to protect her what it means is that I want to keep her safe. Now the main problem is people use this phrase for just about anything and so it loses meaning after a time, but all in all I still think the sentiment is a sweet one. Just the Devils Advocate in me wanting to play along Steel You're right, Steel, we subbies/slaves have heard that promise so many times if we had a penny for every time it happened we would all be very rich indeed. THAT SAID, you truly are different. You don't just say the words you back them up with actions that prove you are trustworthy, and that makes you different from those others. I've said it before and i'll say it again, you truly are trustworthy and i'm thankful for all the times you have been there for me when i needed a friend. Girls, if Steel contacts you and offers a shoulder to cry on or someone to listen, take him up on it. He's really one in a million. Phoenix

Kalista07 -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 7:53:30 PM)
i'm not sure if i'm replying to this post because i'm that smart, that stupid, or the pneumonia is killing me.... At any rate, i must admit that i've participated in this "online protector" thing. i've shared my experience with this previously, but have opted to do it again. The first 'dom' who was my online protector was nothing more than a spineless weasel who wanted in my pants. And he got there... And i became the person he created me to be and then he bailed on me.... The second time i agreed to have a dom act as my "protector" or guardian, the situation was vastly different. i was dealing with a whole lot of crap at that point...My dad had recently died, i was struggling with depression majorly, i was dealing with unresolved bullshit that i really thought would have died with him and it didn't, and i had been raped, beaten, and assaulted (by someone i had met through this website.) The second Master who was my protector was an awesome person, and still is. He will always be a hero to me. He taught me so much about myself, about the lifestyle, about my needs and wants. He taught me how to stand up for myself and how to not accept unacceptable behavior. He taught me how to live in my own skin and frankly got me to a point where i could grow and flourish in the relationship i am currently in. i realize that not everyone's experience has been as positive as mine, but i do not think we should throw the baby out with the bath water.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 8:02:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lanie38 In my own experience, I usually hear this line spewed by Doms who tend to equate fragility and weakness with being submissive. Not my kind of Dom... Not my kind of sub. I like my women self-assured, educated, competent, strong...

ShaktiSama -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 8:07:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Actually I have the ability to discern who is full of shit and who is not....Judging from many of the responses apparently that is a lost art form within your precious "community." Lol...or here's a thought--maybe you're a secretly sensitive vulnerable man who drives people away from him constantly because he's afraid no one cares about him. quote: You strike me as one of those "frustrated dominants" ... Lol...honey, you don't want to start a sentence with the words "you strike me". It gives away too much of what's on your mind. [;)] You sure it's ME who's frustrated? 'Cause it sure seems to me that you spend a lot of time pulling my pigtails, trying to get my attention. quote: The Shaktisamas of the world want you to believe that you are weak... Horseshit. There are no "ShaktiSamas" in the plural, babydoll. I am one of a kind. And I have no investment in making feeling people "weak". Having someone care about you and look out for you doesn't make you "weak"--it actualy makes you quite a bit stronger. You might want to try it some time. Anyway. I have no idea what the rest of this bullshit post was supposed to be saying, so I'm going to ignore it, the way I generally ignore you. I am sorry that no one would ever consider asking for your protection, darlin'. Maybe people would have more confidence in you if you weren't too "strong" to care about them.

Poetryinpain -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 8:17:17 PM)
Do we need protection by or *from* someone who goes to Cubs games? I forget. pip, hope springs eternal in the spring

CalifChick -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 8:25:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy It crossed my mind...But for some reason I can't picture an "older woman" taking down a charging sub. Unless they haven't got any in quite some time....A desperate cougar is one of the most dangerous animals to confront. Domi, you DO have my picture, dammit; now stop talking about me that way. The last person that tried to protect me by telling me to "be careful" at night got the "glare of doom" and my response of, "If they aren't smart enough to run, they deserve whatever I give them." Mum was not amused. Cali

domiguy -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 8:42:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama Anyway. I have no idea what the rest of this bullshit post was supposed to be saying, so I'm going to ignore it, the way I generally ignore you. I am sorry that no one would ever consider asking for your protection, darlin'. Maybe people would have more confidence in you if you weren't too "strong" to care about them. I have never and would never offer to protect some random dumb sub....Don't have the time nor the energy. What is the point? I'm going to help an adult proceed through a relationship? I would rather she play russian roulette than waste my time. You want real protection? by Right Guard...Anything else these Shaktisamas might be offering you is horseshit. Since you didn't get to the "rest" of my "bullshit post"...Let me give you the Cliff Notes...It ended with you blowing me.

slavegirljoy -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 8:43:53 PM)
In the case of my Master, He primarily protects me from myself and my tendency to be impetuous and not always think things out the way i should. Having to get His permission first, helps to keep me from doing stupid things. joy Owned servant of Master David

ShaktiSama -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 9:07:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Since you didn't get to the "rest" of my "bullshit post"...Let me give you the Cliff Notes...It ended with you blowing me. So it would be real similar to the rest of your wank fantasies then. Glad I skipped it.

subtee -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 9:09:46 PM)
It's like a Dom-off! ...hot

Lordandmaster -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 9:12:52 PM)
I'm going to take a middle position between Shaktisama and domiguy. I agree with domiguy that subs, especially female subs, are often encouraged to be meek and helpless lambs who aren't responsible for anything that happens to them. That's revolting, because if BDSM is about anything, it's a relationship between ADULTS. If something goes wrong in a relationship that you WILLINGLY entered, it's as much your own fucking fault as anyone else's. For that reason, most of the Collarme chatter about "protection" rubs me the wrong way. It's usually all about protecting people from facing their own raw feelings. However...once you reach a certain stage in a d/s relationship, I think some mode of "protection" really does start to enter the picture, because a dom is responsible for his or her sub, and anyone who has had the right kind of experiences knows that a heavy d/s relationship is mentally and emotionally intense, much more intense than a typical vanilla relationship. If you're REALLY asking a sub to confront his or her deepest and most troublesome fears and desires, that person is going to need just a bit of help to get through it all. And believe me, the sub will be (or should be) eternally grateful. Most people don't give a damn.

domiguy -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 9:36:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee It's like a Dom-off! ...hot Be quiet you. quote: LordandMaster However...once you reach a certain stage in a d/s relationship, I think some mode of "protection" really does start to enter the picture, because a dom is responsible for his or her sub, and anyone who has had the right kind of experiences knows that a heavy d/s relationship is mentally and emotionally intense, much more intense than a typical vanilla relationship. If you're REALLY asking a sub to confront his or her deepest and most troublesome fears and desires, that person is going to need just a bit of help to get through it all. And believe me, the sub will be (or should be) eternally grateful. Most people don't give a damn. I think the better word is "responsibility." We are responsible for our actions. I have gotten carried away a time or two. It wasn't anything Earth shattering just some words as to what had transpired and her overall feelings about it. You live and you learn and you become more in tune to your partners and your own limits...The problem is that very few out here seem to have grasped this notion.

Leatherist -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 10:19:56 PM)
FR. Throughout this entire thread I keep seeing noble ideas expressed. Not one word has value until it is matched by a deed in kind.

roughleather -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/15/2008 11:58:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain I went to a large party under the "protection" of a dominant once. It basically meant, "Oh, sweet little naive submissive, come to me and let me protect you from other nasty, mean dominants who only want to use you. In the meantime I want to use you for exactly the purposes I'm 'protecting' you from and wave you around like a trophy." I know someone like that. He's well known in the SF scene. He may have a future as a pimp.

SimplyMichael -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 3:52:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: roughleather quote: ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain I went to a large party under the "protection" of a dominant once. It basically meant, "Oh, sweet little naive submissive, come to me and let me protect you from other nasty, mean dominants who only want to use you. In the meantime I want to use you for exactly the purposes I'm 'protecting' you from and wave you around like a trophy." I know someone like that. He's well known in the SF scene. He may have a future as a pimp. Can you catch ruffles from him?

KMsAngel -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 4:08:25 AM)
ruffles?[8\|]

Toolking -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 5:21:23 AM)
Ok... What a Dom protect you from??? His protection comes with the responsiblity to take care of you and keeping the look out for you in case something goes wrong within ur relationship, i.e He dies/get killed/goes to perison or whatever u may fancy him in. As a protector He would prepare for them events, and He will make sure u will be alright without Him. He puts u in His well, He allows you to have a private bank account where u can save some of ur money for yourself. There is a lot of ways to protect you dear but if ur mind thinks like He is doing all the things He supposed to be protecting u from.....i.e SEX n FUN..... ? Why would He stop u or deprive u from the best joy in life?? that's my $.02

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