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Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 5:56:57 AM   
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Do or woud You play with newbies? If yes, is it because You feel how else would one go about getting experience without having the opportunity or something else?
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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 6:09:48 AM   
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My Dom and I are both newbies to D/s. So the answer is yes I would and thankfully so will he.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 7:08:29 AM   
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Who I chose to involve myself with is based purely on what I think of that individual, whether or not they interest me, etc. Being new has nothing to do with it. Sometimes someone new is easier to deal with, since you don't have to overcome the expectations some one with a lot of experience often has (based on their own past experience). Then again, I don't simply "play" with someone, I'm not looking for nor interested in just play partners.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 7:48:17 AM   
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Do or woud You play with newbies? If yes, is it because You feel how else would one go about getting experience without having the opportunity or something else?


There's a real contact high in playing with someone who is getting to realize his or her fantasies for the first time.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 7:50:42 AM   
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In some ways, experience is over rated. Yes, you do have to understand what it is your doing along with any dangers involved, but with that said, there is no reason not to just have fun and explore.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 7:50:46 AM   
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If anything, I would believe that there would be more players out there excited by the prospect of palying with "fresh meat" than the opposite. If you really have come across a large selection who are unwilling to play with a newbie, you've run into a statistical oddity.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 8:10:11 AM   
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quote:

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Do or woud You play with newbies? If yes, is it because You feel how else would one go about getting experience without having the opportunity or something else?

I've somehow become a collector of newbies. I love new perspectives and I love going slow. I'm not terribly experienced as a top myself yet so I can play on their level without wanting to go much farther.

Now, when it comes to serious RELATIONSHIPS, I need them to have a bit of experience under their belt.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 8:10:43 AM   
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Sure, I would play with a newbie, no problem, as we were all in that place once upon a time. Would I do it because "how else are they going to get the experience?" Well, no, that wouldn't be the reason - I am not the only glass of water in the world for a thirsty person, if you get what I mean. I would play with someone, newbie or experienced, because they inspired in my heart the Howlin' Lusties!

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 8:13:20 AM   
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Well, we are all newbies at one time.

My first Master had to have a lot of patience with me. He was very good in that aspect. He explained eve-ry-thing to me.

I learned a lot about D/s and myself. He enjoyed my service. I am grateful.

BIG BUT: I did not know myself. My own tastes, desires, what I had to offer, what I could do to serve, what Domination I needed to thrive, ++++.

He and I were incompatible. My potential was an unknown. It was a long term love relationship. Hurts and ups and downs. It had to end. It was a hard place, but time does heal (the old cliche)



I was lots of fun. I am much more fun now. I still get that half scared out of my wits crossed with lust - look on my face.
I still have lots of "newbie" left. But, now an "experienced woman", I do feel I am a better potential slave.

Good Q. Thanks.. fawne

*editing to add: I: a nice little girl, was the harder player. Who knew?

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 8:37:06 AM   
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quote:

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Do or woud You play with newbies? If yes, is it because You feel how else would one go about getting experience without having the opportunity or something else?


Unlike the respondents so far , I do not enjoy those on an expedition or new. In my experience, each and every time I've allowed myself to meet or enjoy a "newbie," I've been greatly disappointed, or exhausted by the encounter. (Or to be more frank...and don't call me Frank ....in my experience the newbies that have contacted me are more searching for kinky sex, over anything else. Their learning curve is stuck on the "easy" button.)

I am a Top that enjoys a man that is truly a masochist with a clear sense of enjoyment from the pure pleasure of pain. The many newbies I've met are still in fantasy land are still only "thinking" they might like pain, when if fact they find out it "really" hurts.

Since I've not had a really positive newbie experience, I usually refrain from meeting them now. Although, to clarify, I have no problem with newbies as friends and acquaintances, I don't take them on as a partner for fun.

K - "Don't hate me cause I generalize.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 8:46:20 AM   
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in case I was unclear in my ramblings:

I agree with Frank <ducking> the lady above.

I am a bottom; she is a top. Seems clueless men just don't do it for either of us. (Huh. We do have something in common, FTop.) I would hesitate, to say the least.... with a newbie.

But, again.. we are all..new at some time.

best to all


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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 8:55:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Fawne

I agree with Frank <ducking> the lady above.

I am a bottom; she is a top. Seems clueless men just don't do it for either of us. (Huh. We do have something in common, FTop.) I would hesitate, to say the least.... with a newbie.


Yes, we appear to have something in common.

Sincerely,
Frank

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 9:04:49 AM   
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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 9:05:22 AM   
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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 9:16:46 AM   
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JohnWarren posted:

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There's a real contact high in playing with someone who is getting to realize his or her fantasies for the first time.


So true, John! Nothing can be sweeter than bringing someone new into a realm they've dreamed of...

How sad would it be if none of Us were willing to "play" with new people? It was just said in this thread, we were all new to this at one time. My first slave was very much more experienced than I, and a bit older. If it is possible to "train" a Dom, I am grateful for the patience and understanding she gave Me. I was a 17 year old country boy straight out of East Texas who was thoroughly convinced I was the only one on Earth who had these 'sick and twisted' (how it is described back home) desires and thoughts in My head.

she recognized something in Me and we began dating as vanilla. she slowly hinted and 'led' Me into having My fantsies realized, but what is more is that she made Me understand it was okay and there were millions of us out here who were the same way. Had I not met her, and had she not been willing to partake in My learning of the lifestyle, where would I be today? Likely frustrated, alone, and still afraid of My own sexuality.


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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 9:55:59 AM   
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quote:

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Do or woud You play with newbies? If yes, is it because You feel how else would one go about getting experience without having the opportunity or something else?



Mmm, cherries....

H

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 9:57:57 AM   
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There's a real contact high in playing with someone who is getting to realize his or her fantasies for the first time.



I agree whole heartedly.

Plus there is a real high in molding a newbie to your own personal style of training.


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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 10:00:33 AM   
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I agree with most of what has been written, and with this in particular. I wouldn't discriminate against a newbie because everyone was a newbie once. What matters is who people are, not how much experience they have.

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Well, we are all newbies at one time.


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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 11:03:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling
Do or woud You play with newbies?


I do and absolutely will again.

quote:

ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling
If yes, is it because You feel how else would one go about getting experience without having the opportunity or something else?


It is because some of the people I found interesting and attractive happened to be newbies at the time. Additionally, my preferences tend to lead me to nobiews more commonly than other types of people. The preferences (in part) that lead to this are:


  • Young (18-25)
  • Attractive (for my preferences this is statistically much more common in females about the age listed above)
  • Not bogged down in a lot of BDSM community baggage / politics
  • Knew they were attracted to service all their lives
  • Felt the above strongly enought hat they have not ever really considered another relationship type on a long term basis


So I just tend not to be attracted to those with 15 or 20 years in the lifestyle in general because they rarely have all those traits. However when they DO then their status as a novice or not is not a consideration.

Of course this is just my own opinion, one of many. And these are just my own preferences, everyoen has them :)

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 2:05:02 PM   
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# Young (18-25)
# Attractive (for my preferences this is statistically much more common in females about the age listed above)


free your mind, baby, not all old chicks are UNATTRACTIVE


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