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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 5:06:09 PM   
Padriag


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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# Young (18-25)
# Attractive (for my preferences this is statistically much more common in females about the age listed above)


free your mind, baby, not all old chicks are UNATTRACTIVE



He didn't say all, he said statistically most women he finds attractive fall into that age group. Just like, statistically, I find women in their mid to late twenties tend to have the combination of traits I find most appealing, that's not ALL of them... just the statistical majority. Ah well, maybe you just need reading glasses, what with getting old an all.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 5:09:03 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		I thought you said you prefer older men anyway.

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

# Young (18-25)
# Attractive (for my preferences this is statistically much more common in females about the age listed above)


free your mind, baby, not all old chicks are UNATTRACTIVE


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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 6:37:23 PM   
girl4you2


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
free your mind, baby, not all old chicks are UNATTRACTIVE

they'll find out when they're older. we already know.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 6:42:59 PM   
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Do or woud You play with newbies? If yes, is it because You feel how else would one go about getting experience without having the opportunity or something else?


From the dom side I'd say I prefer to play with newbies. But I do not play with anyone but whom I have a serious relationship with. One reason for this is that I don't have to unteach them anything.

Will I play with someone with experience. Very definitely. If they are worth being in a serious relationship with me, they are most ceratinly worthy of being untrained and trained in my fashion.

Would an experienced sub play with a newbie? I sure had my difficulties finding anything to do with anyone as a single, at the time young (not that I'm all that old now), male dom.
But I'm short on charm as well so results may vary :-)

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 6:43:03 PM   
girl4you2


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Status: offline 		just to add, in some cases, newbies are older, in their 30s, 40s, or i'd imagine some older. there is someone for everyone. many men actually prefer older women, as they've already been with young girls and then decide to find someone closer to their age. with disease and death (natural causes and wars), men and women die. the partner left behind then needs to find another, and not all go for the young. life is change, and individuals have their own preferences, but there are stunning women over 25.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 8:56:08 PM   
OscarHargraves


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Status: offline 		I still consider myself a newbie of sorts. I'm more interested in the lady for who she is and how we click than whether she has a ton of experience. A large part of my getting together with her will be her attitude, not her dosier.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 10:51:30 PM   
frillsnthrills


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Status: offline 		Actually, though by no means a hard and fast rule, i prefer experienced Doms. The way i submit, i find the newbies really have not got enough practical experience with understanding the workings of the dynamics with all their complexities and consequences. That is not to say i wouldn't 'play' with a newbie. my first Master was a newbie. i have met Doms that have 20 years experience behind them and lack the greater picture, imo.

Certainly, natural talent is of far greater importance and of much more value then someone who lacks that 'x' factor. A natural Dom that has just discovered His nature is of far greater interest and compatability to me then a Dom who has been in the lifestyle forever and stayed on one dimension of it. The minute we think we know it all we are never closer to failure. The cliche has a ring of truth to it.

Upon saying that, i find a 'newbie Dom needs time to digest and learn. Something that can prove to be costly to me. A newbie Dom can ask for more then He bargained for.

As i sink deeper into where they can instinctively lead me, they can become overwhelmed with the sheer force, that many of us know to be so powerful. In time, they learn to manage that feeling and to guide me more truly. It is personnally a better match for me if they are of some experience. After all, i am placing myself literally into their hands..and no-one knows better then me, what i need. All the Best...

...frills...

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/15/2005 11:06:12 PM   
frillsnthrills


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RE: Do You or would You - 10/16/2005 5:20:32 AM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		girl4you2:
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they'll find out when they're older. we already know.


Yes.

Lordandmaster:
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I thought you said you prefer older men anyway.


Yes.

I was joking with my comment to Soulhuntre, really. Everyone has their preferences, it's all good.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/16/2005 11:07:21 AM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Yeah, I mean I'm on your side, to tell you the truth. I prefer older women for MANY reasons.

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I was joking with my comment to Soulhuntre, really. Everyone has their preferences, it's all good.


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RE: Do You or would You - 10/16/2005 11:33:49 AM   
Oumae


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Yeah, I mean I'm on your side, to tell you the truth. I prefer older women for MANY reasons.




Going to list them?

On the post.... I'll play with a newbie if they interest me as a person.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/16/2005 11:46:31 AM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Well, the main reason is that our kind of life takes a lot of introspection, and most younger women aren't ready for it yet. That's not to say that NO younger women are ready, or that ALL older women are, but my experience has been that you have to have gone through a couple of wars before you're ready for a d/s relationship. You have to have learned why dishonesty doesn't work. You have to have learned why denying who you are and what you need doesn't work either. You have to have had some relationships that failed, and to understand why they failed. (In other words, you have to know what comes after "happily ever after.")

I'm also just irrationally attracted to older women. It's something sexual, too.

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ORIGINAL: Oumae

Going to list them?


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RE: Do You or would You - 10/16/2005 11:53:44 AM   
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Well, the main reason is that our kind of life takes a lot of introspection, and most younger women aren't ready for it yet. That's not to say that NO younger women are ready, or that ALL older women are, but my experience has been that you have to have gone through a couple of wars before you're ready for a d/s relationship. You have to have learned why dishonesty doesn't work. You have to have learned why denying who you are and what you need doesn't work either. You have to have had some relationships that failed, and to understand why they failed. (In other words, you have to know what comes after "happily ever after.")

I'm also just irrationally attracted to older women. It's something sexual, too.

Lordandmaster

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ORIGINAL: Oumae

Going to list them?


On behalf of older women, i must say i agree. i do wish i had found D/s at 20, but it wouldv'e been a totally different experience.

pinkpleasures

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/16/2005 12:12:13 PM   
ImpGrrl


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ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

Do or woud You play with newbies? If yes, is it because You feel how else would one go about getting experience without having the opportunity or something else?



Ok, I answered half in jest (the "cherries" comment), but I'll answer this seriously.

I'll top newbies, as long as they're honest about what they want and what their other experience, and all that.

The pool of who I'll bottom to is quite small, but if a newbie demonstrates good enough skills in what I'm iterested in bottoming to, and ww have a good connection, it's possible.

With d/s relationships - for me that's about chemistry and interpersonal relating - and if the connection is there, and the relationship works between us, the level of experience doesn't matter. Whether on the d side or the s side, I look for qualities which I think make a good human being - as long as they have those in good supply, they're fine with me.


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RE: Do You or would You - 10/16/2005 3:00:10 PM   
TheChastiser


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Status: offline 		depends on exactly what you mean? do you mean train a person new to the lifestyle, after consideration and discussion first? or, simply play with someone that so far has done little, so has hardly any expectation or knowledge of what is going to happen to them?

Mike


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RE: Do You or would You - 10/16/2005 3:42:15 PM   
Evanesce


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Do or woud You play with newbies? If yes, is it because You feel how else would one go about getting experience without having the opportunity or something else?


Strictly on the play side of the lifestyle, I have and will play with newbie bottoms. It's not my favorite pastime, however, because I prefer topping someone who isn't going to buckle the moment I lay a sweat scraper across his backside, or a whip down his back. With a newbie, I always feel like I have to "take it easy" on them, and that leaves me feeling rather dissatisfied. I tend to collect newbie tops, however, who want to get experience, but no one will play with them because they've never done it before. I don't exactly "submit" to these individuals. The play is more clinical than anything else, and I give them a lot of feedback in what works and what doesn't.

As far as owning a newbie goes... I've been dealing with a newbie who is SO new, he hasn't read any books OR websites, hasn't been to any munches, has absolutely NO clue about even the most basic of protocols (like not calling a dominant "sweety" when you barely know her/him; and not forgetting A) that he or she gave you his/her name and B) what that name is), etc, and it's nearly driving me batty. I'm rapidly discovering I don't have the patience to walk him through everything step by step. It's not that I'm lazy, but that he's simply not on the upper end of the learning curve. I'd much rather own someone who's already got a few miles on him/her and has something of a clue what is expected without my having to write them a manual.

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/16/2005 9:08:30 PM   
Soulhuntre


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ORIGINAL: Padriag
He didn't say all, he said statistically most women he finds attractive fall into that age group. Just like, statistically, I find women in their mid to late twenties tend to have the combination of traits I find most appealing, that's not ALL of them... just the statistical majority. Ah well, maybe you just need reading glasses, what with getting old an all.


Thank you for saving me the trouble of having to point that out :)

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/22/2005 7:01:37 AM   
Manawyddan


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

free your mind, baby, not all old chicks are UNATTRACTIVE


shush! he's just leaving more of them for us!

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/22/2005 8:27:52 AM   
pinkpleasures


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# Young (18-25)
# Attractive (for my preferences this is statistically much more common in females about the age listed above)

Soulhuntre


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free your mind, baby, not all old chicks are UNATTRACTIVE

KatyLied


i think it's perfectly normal to want a partner who is age-appropriate and to find oneself drawn to them; i did not take what He said as a dig on older women. Frankly it's refreshing to see a young Dom who ISN'T chasing women my age...that always creeps me out.

pinkpleasures

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RE: Do You or would You - 10/22/2005 8:40:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pinkpleasures]i think it's perfectly normal to want a partner who is age-appropriate and to find oneself drawn to them; i did not take what He said as a dig on older women. Frankly it's refreshing to see a young Dom who ISN'T chasing women my age...that always creeps me out.

The issue is calling it "age appropriate." Only you can decide what age is appropriate for you.

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