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MissAnthropic -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 5:40:47 AM)

Dear RapierFugue,

I dont drink it for the affect, I like the taste. I rarely drink as my liver is dead. When I choose to punish myself, I drink something worth the effort.

It must be my dutch heritage, i was brought up with anise flavoured sprinkles on my sandwiches as a child, I buy just black jelly beans and I love salted licorice.

cheers

jess




RapierFugue -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 5:46:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MissAnthropic

Dear RapierFugue,

I dont drink it for the affect, I like the taste. I rarely drink as my liver is dead. When I choose to punish myself, I drink something worth the effort.

It must be my dutch heritage, i was brought up with anise flavoured sprinkles on my sandwiches as a child, I buy just black jelly beans and I love salted licorice.

cheers

jess


I can see where you’re coming from; I don’t drink much these days, in terms of drinking to get drunk.  I either have nice wine or sometimes beer with a meal, coz I like the taste, or I don’t bother.  Sitting around quaffing 10 pints of beer and getting catatonic doesn’t appeal, and on those occasions where I have a long session with friends it tends to be the sort of drinks I’ve mentioned, as they’re both fun and social, or sometimes (like last night!), lots of sambuca – but never black sambuca, as it gives me raging hangovers, which I generally avoid if I stick to the white stuff.
 




wulfgarw -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 5:57:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue




Hmmmmmm … I can see where drugs would be a no-no where that sort of thing was concerned.  Do they alcohol breath-test you when you turn up as well?  And I can see the logic behind people with firearms not being high too.
 
If you want a ritualised drink with nice effects, and one that is very sociable, without having difficult to get hold of (for you) ingredients, try Feuerzangenbole (sugar cubes work almost as well as sugar cones if you can't get the cones) – it’s fun to make, tastes great, and seems to maintain that “silly-drunk” stage better than almost any other drink I’ve tried.  Lovely for a long evening with some friends, just sitting around getting silly and talking cobblers.
 


I think they can give a breathalyzer test if they want or suspect, but in the last 11 years of working at places that do random testing, I've only been checked twice and only one had a breathalyzer.  I keep my drinking and work seperated by at least a full day.  So I have no worries.

But I can't find any english text on this 'Feuerzangenbole' on either Google or Wikipedia?  What is it, if you'll pardon my torpidity?




RapierFugue -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 6:07:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: wulfgarw

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

Hmmmmmm … I can see where drugs would be a no-no where that sort of thing was concerned.  Do they alcohol breath-test you when you turn up as well?  And I can see the logic behind people with firearms not being high too.
 
If you want a ritualised drink with nice effects, and one that is very sociable, without having difficult to get hold of (for you) ingredients, try Feuerzangenbole (sugar cubes work almost as well as sugar cones if you can't get the cones) – it’s fun to make, tastes great, and seems to maintain that “silly-drunk” stage better than almost any other drink I’ve tried.  Lovely for a long evening with some friends, just sitting around getting silly and talking cobblers.
 


I think they can give a breathalyzer test if they want or suspect, but in the last 11 years of working at places that do random testing, I've only been checked twice and only one had a breathalyzer.  I keep my drinking and work seperated by at least a full day.  So I have no worries.

But I can't find any english text on this 'Feuerzangenbole' on either Google or Wikipedia?  What is it, if you'll pardon my torpidity?


Here you go:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/hub/A660953

… except when I’ve had it made for me by German friends they tend to not bother with soaking the fruit and just make up the mulled wine, then pile in with the rum.

Don’t worry about not having a Feuerzange; I’ve seen (and made myself) replicas using tinfoil.  What you’re after is something you can lay sugar cubes onto (or a proper German cone of sugar if you can get one) , that allows the rum to drip through.  So several layers of tinfoil with slots or holes cut in them, large enough to let the rum through, while retaining the cubes or cone, works a treat.

WARNING: the flames can get a lot higher than you’d think – I managed to melt the surround on a hob’s extractor vent on one occasion [sm=applause.gif]

Oh, and that quantity of Feuerzangenbole will be about right for 3 people, or maybe 4 if they’re lightweights 
 [;)]




RapierFugue -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 6:09:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


… except when I’ve had it made for me by German friends they tend to not bother with soaking the fruit and just make up the mulled wine, then pile in with the rum.



Sorry, should have said “they don’t bother soaking the fruit, just add it to the mulled wine and then pile in with the rum”




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 3:51:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wulfgarw

Ok.  Here's a followup question...

The company I work for does random drug screenings.

Does thujone or any other ingredients in absinthe show up in drug screenings?

Highly unlikely. They usually test for the Fed-Five.
http://www.familydocs.org/files/UDTmonograph.pdf




Gwynvyd -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 7:50:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Trust you to know the intricate details of the psychotropic potential of Absinthe, Hippie. Tsk tsk.

Ever had Pastis ? It's very similar - I learnt to swim in a pool of it, down on the port of Marseille.


I have never had that.. however anything with Tonka beans in it has to be pretty darn good. Damn I love those.

Tonka beans are the only thing that got me through my pregnancy with my um. I had to carry one on me at all times to sniff just incase nasuea sneaked up on me.

Gwyn,
Avid Tonka Bean Sniffer




Gwynvyd -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 8:02:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

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Gwynvyd:   If you go to NOLA... you have to do 2 things.. drink a Huricane.. and drink an Absinthe properly.


SHAME on you.   Hurricanes are for tourists.  The two things you have to do are:

Have a sazerac, and, if the season is right, have some King Cake.

E.


*chuckles* yes it is true.. huricanes *are* for the tourists... but damn I do love the taste of them... ( From O'Briens of course... even those Rat Bastards gave me food posioning.) Only now about 4 years later can I even *say* crawfish with out turning green.

I *love* King Cake. Rarely do I get the Bean or the Baby.. but I still love it. My mum used to put in extras and always give us kids the peice with it in it. ~She cheated. I miss my French Boulangerie-Patisserie in Naples. They had really good ones. and thier Croissants... *drools*

The Feast I am hosting in July I am making Tarta De Santiago... I am looking forward to it. ( It is an Andulisian Feast  for about 65. )  Greedy is going! Whoo Hoo!

Gwyn,
Whoo will not be drinking that night... as she would prob. burn the Lamb course.. as she is a "cheap date" as they say.




kittinSol -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 8:16:44 PM)

Pastis is an aniseed drink, heavily alcoholic, that clouds when mixed with water, like Absinthe - slightly similar in taste. It gives a motherfucker of a hangover. It's the 'national' drink of Provence (where I was born). Nickname: 'pastagua'. "Alors, Maurice? Un autre 'petit' pastagua?"

A scar on my browbone bears witness that it's a bad idea to play ping-pong on a concrete table when flying on Pastis [&:] .




Gwynvyd -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 8:24:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Pastis is an aniseed drink, heavily alcoholic, that clouds when mixed with water, like Absinthe - slightly similar in taste. It gives a motherfucker of a hangover. It's the 'national' drink of Provence (where I was born). Nickname: 'pastagua'. "Alors, Maurice? Un autre 'petit' pastagua?"

A scar on my browbone bears witness that it's a bad idea to play ping-pong on a concrete table when flying on Pastis [&:] .


Zut alors! I did not know you were from Provence! Which part? Bouches du Rhone, Var, Alpes Maritimes, Vaucluse, Alpes de Haute Provence, or Hautes Alpes.

Gwyn,
Secret Francophile




kittinSol -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 8:31:12 PM)

Les Bouches, bien sur. Je ne suis pas n'importe qui :-) .  (Marseille)




Gwynvyd -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 8:37:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Les Bouches, bien sur. Je ne suis pas n'importe qui :-) .  (Marseille)



Ahhh, je comprends. Pas très loin pour voyager. Bel endroit à vivre. 
Gwyn




kittinSol -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 8:40:38 PM)

Beautiful, but crazy. It's funny, the further away from the sea you go, the mellower the people get :-). On the coast, they're frantic. I left eons ago - but it never left me.




NakedOnMyChain -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 8:43:54 PM)

My favorite local bar had absinthe briefly when it became legal here.  I finally went to order a glass the other day and they don't carry it anymore.  So much for that idea.




RapierFugue -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 8:50:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Pastis is an aniseed drink, heavily alcoholic,



40-45% abv is now “heavily alcoholic”?  I must have missed a vote.
 
The main thing pastis has going for it is that it’s staggeringly cheap.
 
<pats huge bottle of 51 lovingly, then puts it back in the cupboard for emergencies, where it belongs>

You should try Absinthe instead.  It's stronger, tastes nicer, doesn't give you hangovers anywhere near as bad, works faster, and seems to keep people up later.
 
I'm now trying to recall that dreadful, Turkish version of the pastis/ouzo motif ... raki, is it?  Now that stuff is the paint thinners of the booze world.  Never again.  Ever.
 




RapierFugue -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 9:39:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain

My favorite local bar had absinthe briefly when it became legal here.  I finally went to order a glass the other day and they don't carry it anymore.  So much for that idea.


Let this be a lesson to us all.  Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, for tomorrow ye rosebuds may have been quaffed by the staff, and ye may find yeself short one Absinthe.
 
 




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 9:47:49 PM)

What is being left out here is that Absinthe was a convient scapegoat for the Temprence Folks. The same folks that forced probition upon us and the sme ones who keep a 19 year old Iraqi war veteran from picking up a six pack.

I like Absinthe and the ritual is half the fun. We are soon to lose the whole cork ritual with wines as screw tops and boxes have proven they are better protectors so I am glad some of the rituals like decanting and the whole Absinthe ritrual are coming back to replace them.




NakedOnMyChain -> RE: Absinthe? (5/4/2008 10:22:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

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ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain

My favorite local bar had absinthe briefly when it became legal here.  I finally went to order a glass the other day and they don't carry it anymore.  So much for that idea.


Let this be a lesson to us all.  Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, for tomorrow ye rosebuds may have been quaffed by the staff, and ye may find yeself short one Absinthe.
 
 


If I thought the new staff there had the class to enjoy the stuff, I'd agree.  *grin*  But I suppose it's a possibility.  What they lack in, oh, say... culture, they more than make up for with livers of steel. 

Later that evening I tried to order an Ouzo with water, and guess what else they didn't have?  (Hint:  It wasn't the water.)  When I asked if they had anything like it, anise based, the bartender told me they had Rumplemintz.  I just looked at her, debated waving my hand in front of her face to see if she'd blink, then said, "Ok.  I'll take a whiskey."  Sheesh.  It's still my favorite bar, though.  It's the only place in town that I can sit outside and get a drink.

But I still want my absinthe.




Alumbrado -> RE: Absinthe? (5/5/2008 5:18:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

What is being left out here is that Absinthe was a convient scapegoat for the Temprence Folks. The same folks that forced probition upon us and the sme ones who keep a 19 year old Iraqi war veteran from picking up a six pack.

I like Absinthe and the ritual is half the fun. We are soon to lose the whole cork ritual with wines as screw tops and boxes have proven they are better protectors so I am glad some of the rituals like decanting and the whole Absinthe ritrual are coming back to replace them.


The wine producers had a vested interest in banning absinthe too, when absinthe consumption exceeded purchases of their product... profit makes strange bedfellows..




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Absinthe? (5/5/2008 7:48:06 AM)

Maybe back in the late 1800's when rot was destroying the French wine industry but not now and certainly not in US in the early 1900's when Absinthe was being banned here. But yes, I am sure there was an unholy alliance between temperance unions and wine makers back in the day.

There are a lot of myth surrounding Absinthe. Some are based in part on the nature of its ingredients but most are false.




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