Zensee
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I concur it was a ruse but not for commercial interests - it was to shape the battlefield and to move the fight off our shores. The fact is that US Marines pissing on the walls of sacred mosques and Army soldiers making naked feces smeared muslim men pose with panties on their heads pisses off the terrorists - who flocked to Iraq to attack in their anger and outrage, As a result approx 100,000 iraqi civilians are dead and there hasnt been a single us terrorist victim in the CONUS since 2001. Like I said, there will be collateral damage and better it is there than here...  Sucks to be them but oh well, the muslims get their little tempers worked up and they go in the market in Baghdad and blow themselves up. Good riddance. Brilliant move - kind of like why we took the battle to the beaches of Normandy instead of the streets of London. Break someone elses shit and kill someone elses people. Someone has to die and it damn well wont be us. Nothing to do with commercial interests at all.
If it was a ruse how can you be so sure it was not on behalf of comercial interests? Once the lies start flowing do you get to pick and choose all of a sudden? It's pretty damned obvious it's about commerce.
The lesson the USA learned in WW2 has been described in detail by youself in this thread. It's not the lesson that war is horror and atrocity, it's the lesson that war is very good business, if it is fought elsewhere than home soil. It's all very well to demonstrate a capability to reach beyond one's borders in order to protect them, it is another thing altogether to make military force a customary part of economic and ideological aggression, as the USA has done countless times in South America, the Middle East, Asia and Africa.
It's this attitude of special entitlement that generates such rage against the USA. Canada is your closest friend. We are cousins really. Yet you attack our economy, virtually destroyed out lumber industry and tried the same with our agriculture. You force your own domestic policies on us and interfere directly in our internal business. This is how you treat your dearest and most trusted friends, with contempt and opportunism. You confound agreements of fair trade and tell us how to live our lives. And you feel no qualms at all.
You treat your friends like enemies and your enemies like animals. Where do you get off thinking such attitudes will earn you respect?
As for your argument that the death of 100,000 Iraqis has helped bring security to the USA, nothing could be further from the truth. Broadcasting, with bombs and bullets, an opinion that American lives are of greater worth than the lives of any other innocent civilians, is deadly hubris in the "war on terror" or "the war FOR democracy". The policy of overt aggression has only served to multiply, diversify and intensify the enmity towards the USA.
The fact that no acts of terror have been committed on US soil since 9/11 is in no way due to the occupation of Iraq. It is entirely due to the improvements in function of domestic, international and shared intelligence operations, who had their collective noses rubbed in the petty, internal bullshit which allowed the unlikely events of 9/11 to move to completion.
It has also come at the cost of true liberty in the home of the brave and the free.
Z.
< Message edited by Zensee -- 5/6/2008 11:17:26 AM >
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