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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/16/2008 12:15:56 PM   
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on Police,

when I was younger I was not too good at conversing with them.

Lately, and hopefully- I am a middle aged man who IS an upstanding community member.

At the risk of sounding like I am covering for DomA,   try not too confuse bravado with "????"



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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/16/2008 3:42:21 PM   
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Come on DA,

You just like me now cuz you know I drive a Vette!

Okay, we will try to play nice, by November I will have you voting Dem! Oh, and dating 30 somethings....


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No truce needed - I have no beef with you Aynne


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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/16/2008 4:10:41 PM   
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Well yes, the Vette thing was a plus - showed me you have taste :) As for the dating 30 somethings - thats easy with the right bait, but the voting dem would require that the 30 soemthing is one hell of a special lady, thinks cotton panties should be outlawed, walks around the house all day in either a half slip or leopard teddy, and could teach Monica Lewinsky a thing or two LOL

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/16/2008 4:40:44 PM   
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quote:

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At the risk of sounding like I am covering for DomA,   try not too confuse bravado with "????"

Bringing this subject up for discussion in the first place is decidedly un-DomA-ly, it's not likely anyone would assume you were covering for him. At the risk of sounding naiive, what is the ???? that could be mistaken for bravado, if you don't mind elaborating?

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/16/2008 5:47:07 PM   
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What are cotton panties?


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Well yes, the Vette thing was a plus - showed me you have taste :) As for the dating 30 somethings - thats easy with the right bait, but the voting dem would require that the 30 soemthing is one hell of a special lady, thinks cotton panties should be outlawed, walks around the house all day in either a half slip or leopard teddy, and could teach Monica Lewinsky a thing or two LOL


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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/16/2008 6:58:18 PM   
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Yanno, I dint read this thread, but just the subject....

How the fuck does that work?

Officer:  Ok, Ron "police priviledge"  "to protect and to serve", we are gonna hafta stick a camera up mr one-eye..........

sorry, I did the happy pipe up the doctors office, and am not going to fly to cannes to see the sequel...

no, you don't understand--------

Ya, you got some guys in Gitmo, stick the camera up their ass--------

KaBoom, Kaboom!!!  Great Gobs of Gooseshit, Batman, the jokers got a gun!!!!

Indiana wants me, but I can't go back there....

You get the picture....

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 6:25:09 AM   
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Mnot - basically the gist is that some people take offense at the notion that a convicted drug dealer, with a lengthy criminal record and numerous drug offenses, was arrested in albany NY after getting off a bus. While in custody, the officers (suspecting he was a drug mule - ie those who smuggle drugs by wrapping them in condoms and swallowing them to shit them out later) took him to the hospital for a colonoscopy to locate and remove the drugs. Well it turned out that THIS time, he didnt have any on (in) him. Tsk Tsk Tsk.  Poor baby. LOL

By the way Aynne - GOOD ANSWER - Your stock just went up 100 points in my book!   

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 6:39:55 AM   
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--side note:   I for one would not swallow a balloon of drugs. I know it is done.  I dont think I would. But then I have never been really REALLY really hungrey.

I can see how this would be good police work.  I used to want complete anomunoty with PD/law, but not any longer. I want to blend in, not too noteworthy - ever since they kicked in the WRONG door----

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 7:11:03 AM   
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quote:

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--side note:   I for one would not swallow a balloon of drugs. I know it is done.  I dont think I would. But then I have never been really REALLY really hungrey.

I can see how this would be good police work.  I used to want complete anomunoty with PD/law, but not any longer. I want to blend in, not too noteworthy - ever since they kicked in the WRONG door----



It happens a lot more than people think. I read something in an aviation magazine where it is the leading cause of in flight cardiac arrest on international flights. See a lot of times the balloons / condoms break on their way through the digestive tract. A condom with an ounce of cocaine or heroin breaks in your intestine and POOF you have just taken a one ounce cocaine or heroin suppository - with an obvious fatal overdose. There was some talk about training flight attendants to administer naloxone (Narcan - the antidote for heroin overdose) because of this but it died out. I guess the administration decided "fuck em a dead mule is one we dont have to prosecute"....

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 8:55:13 AM   
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What I question about this report is that even though this individual was previously convicted of drug dealing, no one witnessed that a drug deal was taken place when he was coming off a bus stop.  There has to be probable cause to arrest this person and from what I have seen, there was none to indicate an arrest, a strip search and forced sedation.

I know some people think drug dealers don't change but there are some who do with their lives despite their past criminal offenses.  My belief is that the cops who arrested this person should be fired.  The Albany Police Department should pay for the hospital bill, which might be excellent to settle before getting one or two lawsuits that would be a burden to the taxpayers who would have to pay for most of the litigating attorney(s) fees!

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 12:06:22 PM   
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There has to be probable cause to arrest this person and from what I have seen, there was none to indicate an arrest, a strip search and forced sedation.

I know some people think drug dealers don't change but there are some who do with their lives despite their past criminal offenses.  My belief is that the cops who arrested this person should be fired.  The Albany Police Department should pay for the hospital bill, which might be excellent to settle before getting one or two lawsuits that would be a burden to the taxpayers who would have to pay for most of the litigating attorney(s) fees!
Ah, but that is so 70's and touchingly innocent. The point of the main thrust of this conversation is that a prior record is probable cause. Remember, first they jacked him and ran his record, then they juiced and poked him. The whole idea that our civil rights are gradually being eroded away - and like frogs in boiling water, we're content with our lot - is overlooked.
Cops used to get suspended and prosecuted for shooting people with plastic handguns. Now you can't even reach for a cell phone, and not only is it simply part of a days work, most people notice only how stupid the dude was, the asscam fool, the cell phone secret agent, and they completely overlook how these things are happening more often, to people they know, for increasingly less "probable cause."

I know, it happened to me. I never thought I'd see a battering ram on my own porch, but on March 1st, after a three month investigation, the local sherrifs' deputies decided that I had "harassed"  someone through an online forum, much like this one. "It's a serious crime, sir." They took my computer, a gaming rig I built myself, my modem and my router and I haven't heard from them since...oh, except for the ancillary charges they made which resulted from invading my privacy, I'm still dealing with those.

But it's all good, y'all just hunker down in your smug complicency and people like  the dude in the op and myself will keep reminding you's why the second amendment is there.

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RE: drug police put cam in wrong mans anus - 5/17/2008 12:13:24 PM   
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just swapping a couple of letters in the Topic heading

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 3:44:07 PM   
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Let's see, I believe Rodney King had a prior record and yet, there was a lot of rioting in Los Angeles during that time.  He was also awarded $3.8 million dollars in compensatory damages. Needless to say, his record was violent, maybe far more than the drug dealer. 

I may be a little naive but when cases tend to become very high profile, then one may have the attorneys who will be involved and make a lot of money from the public.

I sympathize with you, though because I think in your case, what you might be experiencing is police harrassment and yes, I do know all about it since I live in a mid-sized town that has cops who have it in for some people.  However, we do have rights.

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 5:09:21 PM   
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My circumstance is that I just happened to stumble into something way over my head. The end result of responding to a post on an online classifieds forum will almost certainly be a day in jail and a $500 fine, which is the minimum sentence for a joint in this state. The original investigation and uncertain return of about $2000 in computer hardware held as evidence? (Theres a laugh, proof of the crime, right.) I'm sure they intend to let that one just sort of fade away until everybody forgets about it...

See, I live in a very small town and something like this serves as a way to offer a little punative reminder to not piss off the wrong people. 

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 5:44:50 PM   
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It sounds like you live in town with cops having the good old boy mentality and they were trying to make an "example" out of you.

You are correct in the assumption that small town attitudes don't change unless something drastic does happen and is in the headlines.  Your case was a misdemeanor.

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 6:10:51 PM   
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Its not just small towns. Houston is the 4th largest city in the USA and the cops routinely beat people to death, torture them, etc... Last week they blew away a CIA agent, a couple of weeks ago they shot a retarded guy in front of his group home. Pasadena PD beat a hispanic guy to death for "Public Intoxication" within a half hour of his being released from jail in a dry town with 11 cents in his pocket.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nb/pasadena/news/5108248.html
They had a hispanic advocacy lawyer start raising a stink about that one and before ya knew it they were following the lawyer around and breaking his stones and he shut up and went away. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/falkenberg/5032013.html

Check out this story about conditions at the jail... http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4562346.html  As you can see after this:

According to inmate Clifford Olson, several prisoners noticed that Mack was in physical distress while sitting on the toilet. He soon began coughing up blood and bleeding from his rectum. Olson says Mack asked the other inmates to get the attention of the guards.
It was about that time — at the beginning of the overnight shift — that Phillip G. Balthazar came on duty to guard the medical cellblock. Olson and other inmates told him Mack needed medical attention.
"What do you want me to do, get a Band-Aid for his ass?" Balthazar asked the inmates, according to both Olson and a sheriff's office report obtained by the Chronicle.
During the next several hours, Olson and other inmates continued unsuccessfully to plead with Balthazar about Mack's deteriorating condition. Mack pulled himself into the showers, which also are used by the other inmates.
"So everybody could see a wide little river of blood going down the drain, being washed out of the shower, for about an hour," Olson said.
About 2 a.m. Mack began having seizures. It took another 40 minutes for medical personnel to arrive with a gurney — four hours after inmates first called for help.
 
The deputy responsible was disciplined ... ie he was fired... (Not charged, not prosecuted - "fired")
Balthazar was dismissed Aug. 3, 2005. The termination letter accuses him of a "significant discrepancy" in his statement to detectives and of giving "deceptive" answers during a polygraph exam.
 
HOWEVER - if you read a little further you find...
Balthazar now serves as a reserve deputy for the Harris County Precinct 6 Constable's Office.
 
This means that HE's NOT IN THE JAIL ANYMORE, NOW HES OUT ON THE ROAD! Some punishment huh? Take the deputy out of the jail and put him out on the road in Precinct 6 which happens to be "da hood"... Im sure this guy is spreading goodwill among the minority population and is setting the model for community policing....

Its not small towns, or midsized towns, its anywhere - you dont fuck with the police because you just cannot win. Play by the rules, yes sir, no sir, thank you sir, keep your nose clean or they will slap it right off your face...

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 6:29:09 PM   
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That is shocking in Pasadena and Houston.  This officer who was fired is a reserve deputy?!  That is like a Catholic priest who has abused children being transferred to another parrish and they did this for years.  Yeah, just sweep it under the rug.  It is also shameful that emergency 911 units did not respond to these inmates in dire emergencies.

The Harris County Jail should have a surprise outside investigation into these deaths but then again, perhaps there is corruption.  I thought this was 2008 and not 1958! 

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 6:44:09 PM   
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Actually going from jailer to constable is a PROMOTION. He was fired from the jail and put on the street. Its a step UP! So its more like being removed from your parish and being made bishop. See now he can no longer abuse inmates - he can work ovr the general public now... You aint seen nothing yet.... Like I said last week they blew away a CIA agent.... There was a guy over in Pearland who spent a whole night tasering a kid who broke curfew. Hence my position on this whole thing about not pissing them off as Ive said elsewhere in this thread I view a traffic stop as like dealing with the Drill Instructors at OCS - "Sir Yes Sir!" "Sir No Sir", and "Sir This Motorist Does Not Know But Will Find Out Sir" are the only three safe answers. Im NOT going out to Buffalo Bayou to swim with the gators... (and that happened though I dont have a link for it handy)

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RE: drug police put cam in wrong mans anus - 5/17/2008 6:52:48 PM   
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I understand the Yes sir, No sir connection there as I was taught to respect the police.  I just see it where you have good and bad cops in every station. 

I once dated a local cop and he was pretty liberal in his views and treated people like human beings.  He told me after he got fed up with his supervisor, he transferred to another county and had witnessed other cops beat up on people, too.  This did not suit him well and he had to quit that position to take on a county job that was not related to the police department.

In my community, we have had our share of bad cops, which they have been good at firing them.  One was sent to federal prison for pistol whipping a kid who was a drug suspect and lied about graduating from college by having a fake diploma. 

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RE: drug police put cam in worng mans anus - 5/17/2008 8:30:41 PM   
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How can what happened be racist? The guy ended up in prison on other charges. Sorry, but if you are a criminal, you should lose your rights, permanently, especially druggies. I have known cops who have worked in prisons, and if someone gets drugs into the jail or prison, heads roll; so yes, they do check every orifice and they check other places you wouldn't think of as well.
 
And those people who dare to say bad things about cops, what in the h*** are you talking about?! Those who bash cops aren't strong, tough or brave enough to BE cops. PIG stands for 'Pride Integrity and Guts.' If you live in the US and you bash police officers, shame shame shame on you, don't you remember a little date, when was it, oh yea, September 11; that's it. When police officers risked their own lives to protect people they didn't know. wake up and smell the coffee, without cops most people wouldn't be around.

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