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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 2:29:50 PM   
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I'm not willing to bother to address the OP.

Just wanted to say thank you, Michael, for saving Me the key strokes.

Lotus, thank you for asking the very question that was on My mind.  I notice it was never answered.


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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 2:47:05 PM   
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Sorry if it was discussed before I didn't see it.
But that still does not change the importance of it in many ways does it, submission is submission wheither the woman is in control of the sex or not, she still is submitting, wheither she rides or is on bottom or anything else cause she is the one opening herself up to be taken.



I need to bring on all my gay male friends that have told me they love women, love women's bodies but are terrified of vaginas. I cannot count the number of times I've heard about nightmares involving man eating pussies. Pussies gobbling their peckers off.

Oh yeah, that scary vagina is really submissive.

Sheesh, the things some people come up with to make themselves feel more manly and dominant.

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 2:50:00 PM   
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I think he's just simplifying it to: I have a "innie" so I'm submissive; he has an "outie" so he's Dominant. The outie goes into the innie so the outie is Dominant and the innie is submissive. Like that.

It's the kind of thing 4-year-olds might say to each other when they're playing "I'll show you mine if you show me yours."

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 3:09:31 PM   
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If women in a lesbian relationship submit to have sex, then which one is submitting? I'm confused here. Two women aren't being actively submissive to each other. That's not possible.

As far as male/female sex goes. What if the man is tied up and the woman is riding him, controlling him? Is she still submissive if she's in charge? If she takes her own satisfaction and doesn't allow him his either until he's satisfied her or even not at all?

Sorry this doesn't fly.

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 3:17:05 PM   
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I think he's just simplifying it to: I have a "innie" so I'm submissive; he has an "outie" so he's Dominant. The outie goes into the innie so the outie is Dominant and the innie is submissive. Like that.

It's the kind of thing 4-year-olds might say to each other when they're playing "I'll show you mine if you show me yours."


Speaking of I'll show you mine......................Did you hear about the boy and the girl in the sandbox?

Little boy says to the little girl..."hey look at me, I have two hands..."
Little girl waves her hands and says "So, I have two hands too!"
Little boy hikes up his short pants and says, "Well....I have two legs!"
Little girl lifts her skirt a bit and says " Ummm yeah, I have two legs too!"
The little boy thinks for a moment, looking to out do this little girl...a grin lights his face, and he pulls his short pants down...and proudly say  "YEAH, well I have one of these!"
The little girl looks down at what he's showing her, lifts her skirt and says:
"Hmmmm yes, you may have one of those, but I have one of these....." and she pulls her panties down a bit shows him a flash..."And with one of THESE I can get as MANY of those as I want!"

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 3:23:52 PM   
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Luvnchains, I heard that joke when I was about 14, and I think I must have taken it to heart, it must have shaped my outlook on penis envy. What the hell do I want one of those attached to me for when I have a puss!!
I love the joke still:)
Thanks for the giggle
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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 3:40:49 PM   
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So I probably should not post anything serious at all to this as I have read all of it so far and most of it is pretty funny, but I did have some thoughts on the subject.

I think maybe women do submit when having sex but no more than men do.  I also think that any relationship has both parties submitting to one degree or another.  Any agreed upon act or continued action requires a degree of submission from all parties involved if that act or action is to be successful.  I'm sure there are some instances where this doesn't hold true but in my opinion it is true on the whole.  Well this wasn't meant to sound like "true because I say so" but it is true for me at least.

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 4:14:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtee

I think he's just simplifying it to: I have a "innie" so I'm submissive; he has an "outie" so he's Dominant. The outie goes into the innie so the outie is Dominant and the innie is submissive. Like that.

It's the kind of thing 4-year-olds might say to each other when they're playing "I'll show you mine if you show me yours."


But the innie can wrap around and strangle that outtie of a spanking monkey just like a Boa Constrictor... Ppppp Ppppp Pppp Pussy Power.   What's the song Prince wrote.   Oh Yeah Pussy Control.   Hell, tell me a pussy is submissive! Yeah right!  I think nearly everybody here knows the meaning of PUSSY WHIPPED or other fun phrases such "She has you by your Balls", or the ever so classic "She's got him wrapped around her fingers".

Many women know exactly what to do with a hard dick and how to take control of it.  Sure laugh away... 
They'll be down on thier knees, sucking away like there's no tomorrow, while cleaning out your wallet from behind at the same time.  Turning the man into a her bitch boy of financial slave with just her mouth and hand, without the dude having a clue, all he knows he's having the blow job of his life, all the blood has left his brain and he can't think straight.  God, there are so many men that actually refer to their female partners as "The Boss" it's not funny.

I'm amazed that some guys don't believe a women can take control.   Generally it's the guys that think all women are submissives are the one's the get taken advantage of the most!  Because they are too stupid to see it coming! 

p..p..p..p... Pussy Power!  

I think anybody that actually has a social life, with a number of friends, knows exactly the things I'm talking about here.

If you think some girl laying down spreading her legs is a submissive Posture, think again. Bear Traps are something laying down spread open as well.   Many insticts die every year as the result of being tricked by Venus fly traps.   Not everything that looks or appears to be safe and submissive is as such.  

Come on Guys, did'nt your Mamma's warn you about all these things!  I'm certain if the Fruit cake lady was still alive, she'd have a field day on this topic.   Probally being using words such as "Dumb Bastard..." and such.

If you honestly believe all women are submissive, best of luck to you!  Look forward to reading your future post about you getting ripped off, because you sent money to some fake wanna be submissive that you met online. 

Hope you guys don't mind a little humor here!

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 4:34:23 PM   
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Ssssshhhhhhhhhhh, don't give away ALL our secrets dammit!!!!!

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 4:47:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'm not willing to bother to address the OP.

Just wanted to say thank you, Michael, for saving Me the key strokes.

Lotus, thank you for asking the very question that was on My mind.  I notice it was never answered.



anytime, Ma'am. i feel that the OP was so wrong and wanted to be the first to point it out. not all men think the way he does.


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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 4:50:08 PM   
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On another site, we refer to it as the "MV"... the "Magic Vagina".  It's what wives control their husbands with, according to the mothers-in-law.

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 4:50:30 PM   
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i would also like to point out that the OP hasn't made a statement or comment since page 1

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 5:03:58 PM   
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What bothers me is this and I must admit, I think many do not realize it in real life, 1) Women submit to sex each time they have sex with a male period,

Bollox, period. I'm a submissive and I don't always submit every time I have sex. I can have sex, 'make love' in a completely non bdsm context.
I have had a lengthy scene with a Master in the past and it has not included sex. We have 'made-love' afterwards and I was in control of his turn on.
You are I think confusing two entirely different uses of the term submit.
Nice try but erroneous.


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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 5:09:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtee

It's the kind of thing 4-year-olds might say to each other when they're playing "I'll show you mine if you show me yours."

Awww and I'm all grown up and I still say that!
Ok subtee....you show me yours and I'll show you mine ok? OR the other way round....hell I don't even care whose being sub/dom just as ong as we get there (before we die lol).



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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 5:12:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MusicalBoredom

So I probably should not post anything serious at all to this as I have read all of it so far and most of it is pretty funny, but I did have some thoughts on the subject.

I think maybe women do submit when having sex but no more than men do.  I also think that any relationship has both parties submitting to one degree or another.  Any agreed upon act or continued action requires a degree of submission from all parties involved if that act or action is to be successful.  I'm sure there are some instances where this doesn't hold true but in my opinion it is true on the whole.  Well this wasn't meant to sound like "true because I say so" but it is true for me at least.


ALL ejaculate is submissive (there's what I want engraved on my headstone someone remember please.....)....but so as not to confuse terms we need another concept perhaps for what ejaculate is.....


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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 5:19:03 PM   
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I really love it when a "male type" jumps outta bed in the morning, scratches his nuts and begins his day by postulating about the absolute-written-in-stone-truths of being a woman.


Toooo great........


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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 5:32:45 PM   
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Well, I still have not figured out if my brand of toothpaste is more D or s in type or nature.   Damn it, I still having this thing going on inside my head about being thrown down on a picnic table.  Don't worry about the splinters, my maso streak is feeling a little active today. 

They need to update the internet porn sites I go to with new material, cause I've seen it all already.  Damn, why can't I be addicted to something normal like "World of WarCRACK".  I do wonder how many villages loose an idiot or two, cause I have a difficult time understanding where some people actually are coming from. Does anybody know if Idiots really are trainable or not? 

What really are true submissive postures?  How can one tell if a slave is faking a kneeling position?  What really is an appropriate lipstick for a slave? Should slaves even be allowed to own lipstick?  If so, should the brand of lipstick be more D or s type in it's nature?  Should Dominant Males Scratch thier nuts from the right or left side when waking up in the morning?  Does scratching ones nuts improve one's mental reasoning skills for the day, or is that what the coffee is for?  If so, how many sips of coffee should one take before posting to a message board.? 

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 5:45:25 PM   
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I find it interesting that the OP equates physical postures with "dominance and submission".
If dominance is defined by going away from the body - as in into a female body, and submission as receiving into the body then-
In that vein, the OP "submits" every time he eats or drinks.
He "dominates" every time he urinates or defecates.
If you want to look at his original proposition in this light, he is a switch!
Congratulations OP - you aren't a dominant at all - you are a switch!!!!
Would that be a bit of a shock to you?
And since the body emits more ways than it takes in, then really the OP is a submissive.  Really big shock!!!!!

Of course if you extrapalate the original theory to this extreme, then it all seems a bit silly doesn't it?

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 5:46:34 PM   
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What really are true submissive postures? 


The only "true" submissive posture is that one they teach at military boot camp..... you know, where they lie on their belly and crawl under the ropes. 
 
It makes it hard to get the dominant's morning coffee, toast and bowl of dom flakes, but no one ever said being a submissive was easy. 

quote:


What really is an appropriate lipstick for a slave?


Blood from biting her lip of course!  With semen for lip gloss. 

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/16/2008 5:56:09 PM   
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The only "true" submissive posture is that one they teach at military boot camp..... you know, where they lie on their belly and crawl under the ropes.  
 


Um....can I watch you do that?? 

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