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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/18/2008 8:43:34 PM

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OK, leaving aside the nonsense that women must always submit to men when they have sex, there's obviously a contradiction here if you say that women always "assume a submissive posture" when they have sex with other women, too. Are they both submitting to each other?

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ORIGINAL: BIllCT

1) Women submit to sex each time they have sex with a male period, wheither it is in a Hetrosexual relationship, a lesbian relationship or any-other relationship.Women I think over all think there is a difference in what they do in bed wheither they are hetro-sexual or lesbian truth be known a woman assumes a submissive posture for sexual acts with men or other women each time they have sex.

The problem here, as i see it, is that you are assuming Bill understood what he wrote. Bill often makes no sense at all and enjoys making incomprehensible statements. He tends to throw out outrageous statements and then watches with glee as others take offense. I think he just enjoys the drama and feels so dominant when he can cause one of his statements to have 5 pages of comments....my own personal opinion of the OP.

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/18/2008 8:54:49 PM

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maybe I am a bit weird in this, but I always grew up thinking that heterosexual sex involved a woman "taking a man into herself." Taking, not letting. Of course in the D/s context, whether the woman is taking him into herself or he is putting himself into her all depends on who is submissive in that relationship.
For me, normal, everyday 'nilla sex is more about me taking my boyfriend into myself than it is about him "taking" me. It has very real, very poignant internal meaning for me.
As they say, I have the pussy, I make the rules.
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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 5:43:08 AM

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The only "true" submissive posture is that one they teach at military boot camp..... you know, where they lie on their belly and crawl under the ropes.

there are many more submissive postures but the "belly" one is the one Master uses :)

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 6:01:11 AM

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Interesting how in one breath you say a person cant speak for others an in the next say you speak for all ( an I quote "all dykedom" ) you can not speek for all just yourself

it was a joke... take a closer look at it...

more specifically... sarcasm, to further illuminate the absurdity of the previous

or you could say irony, to some extent, as you pointed out, I am in fact saying that I am the same kind of idiot the OP was in speaking for others...

and.. well, its highly possible I could be that kind of idiot..

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 6:06:27 AM

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Guess what-- women like sex, they often initiate sex and are active participants during the act.

Okay, this just reminded me - back in my much younger, vanilla life with my first husband, i once had an evil college professor who ruined my sex life for a couple of years, srrsly!
I was 19 at the time. I was trying to attend college, had four very young children at home.
My psche instructor told us that an actual study had been done and, inside of commited relationships, like marriage, when the wife initatied sex, over 90% of the time she was fertile when she did so.
For the next couple of years, every time i would start to reach out to him in bed, i'd think better of it!

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 6:18:23 AM

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sex is over-rated

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 7:44:34 AM

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1) Women submit to sex each time they have sex with a male period,

this statement is in error. Women do not "always" submit to a man during sex. sometimes (maybe most of the time) the woman is in control of the situation, completely.

Being in control and allowing (aka submitting) a sexual encounter to occur are not always the same thing, in my book. (Your book may vary.)

When I was a teenager, a friend of my parents explained BIllCT's notion like this:

It is much easier to be a guest in someone's home than it is to be the homeowner, allowing the guest entry, and trusting that the person will not damage or disrespect the house while they are staying. In that, a woman opening herself up, literally, is in a "vulnerable" state, whereby there is a certain amount of trust that must be given to allow the partner entry. Men or women, in the lesbian role BIll describes, seem - in the visual sense - do have a certain edge over the woman who is allowing another person to enter her body, even if she is "on top." I understand what BIll is saying, although sex from the female point of view does not always take on this submissive stance.

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 7:46:35 AM

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 10:16:32 AM

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sex is over-rated

I had this same attitude when I wasn't having it on the regular.

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 11:13:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: tsatske

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Guess what-- women like sex, they often initiate sex and are active participants during the act.

Okay, this just reminded me - back in my much younger, vanilla life with my first husband, i once had an evil college professor who ruined my sex life for a couple of years, srrsly!
I was 19 at the time. I was trying to attend college, had four very young children at home.
My psche instructor told us that an actual study had been done and, inside of commited relationships, like marriage, when the wife initatied sex, over 90% of the time she was fertile when she did so.
For the next couple of years, every time i would start to reach out to him in bed, i'd think better of it!

Ah crap, don't ruin it for me now, please. I happen to enjoy it and love initiating it......

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 1:08:09 PM

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LR,
yea. well, i've already told you now. So i guess i should tell you how i 'cured' that problem.
I learned NFP. so that I knew when i was fertile. <smile>

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 3:02:30 PM

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*grins* I learned a long time ago when I was. And how to prevent it. Over the years I've also learned what affects my sex drive in good and negative ways. I do so love getting older and learning about my body, rather than just accepting things. Oh wait - "accepting things". Isn't that what the OP says that women have to do when we have sex? Regardless of how we feel? *snickers*

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/19/2008 3:13:01 PM

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I am not to sure what to say i have never had intercours sex i have had things like strapons and anal sex but never sex where i go into somone and im not gay im not bi just dont know yet what i am

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RE: Submission and Sex - 5/21/2008 10:06:06 AM

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A woman does submit each time she has sex, no matter the type of relationship it is, because she is the one opening herself up for entry and assumming the position to allow that to occur and the completion of the sexual act period. They may act Dominante and go DOmme on you, but in fact no matter the sexual preference they have, they end up submitting to their partner to recieve the sexual satisfaction needed by them.

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While I squint my eyes from the sight;

As a closed mind sits before me,

That needs to open up and listen willingly."

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Uhm..yeah...ya might wanna do just that...open and free your mind a little bit bud...

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