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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:20:41 PM   
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Short and sweet and to the point. Thank you.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:21:46 PM   
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Thank you, yes, no matter his protestations of "loving" me, his actions don't convey the same message.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:23:02 PM   
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Even the flowery prose sounds nice but he can't even come up with that. He's too (busy/sick/tired/worried,etc).

Thank you, he does seem a jerk doesn't he.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:24:56 PM   
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Thank you, i think you are probably right and what you've said matches my own thoughts. I guess I just need my thoughs "validated" by someone else.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:29:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: whoislikeMichael

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I don't know about the vampiric thing, but I guess in my heart I know he is a loser. I must have a magnet somewhere in my body for losers as I certainly do attract them easily enough.

Thank you kindly for your thoughts.

HizBabyGirl


BabyGirl,

While a lot of questions remain one thing stands certain. As many posters here have already attested to it is most unwise to proceed into a relationship when your gut is telling you to run for the hills. Make no mistake, submissives (slave or not) carry a quiet dignity into their service. Kink is all about choice even if you ultimately choose to give another "control" over you. Such control, SSC or RACK, entails the willingness for one to give it and the willingness for another to accept it.

My suggestion is take a step back, look, listen, discuss with mature, trusted ones in kink, and then allow some time to pass before you offer yourself to ANYONE. Life won't pass you by by doing this but the risk involved with an online or telephony "Dom" makes it all the more critical you stay out of harm's way.

My alpha slave (switch/Domme) is very learned, very experienced, and very empathetic. If you wish, contact Me via profile and I'll hook you up w/her online. Or at the very least, LISTEN to what the vast majority have said concerning you and Mr. Dom. We all could be wrong, of course-- He could be the most giving, loving benevolent SOB for you. I'm simply saying the consensus should be a huge red flag for you.

Be well,

-Michael

Thank you for your words and the time you took to respond. I think that you are right, as most everyone else here has been as well. Considering my history of always getting involved with the jerks, I have to wonder if the stars are somehow working against me.

Why, after all this time, have I failed to meet anyone who matches my desire. I do not ask for any elaborate gifts or home or vacations, my needs are simple, yet they may as well be for things unobtainable, I'm starting to think they are unobtainable, as simple as they are. They do not appear to be in the cards for me.

It makes me sad, but being with the wrong person will make me sad too.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:31:04 PM   
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Thank you for sharing your heartfelt thoughts.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:33:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists
However, don't expect that you can have that type of relationship with just any dominant. And just because he isn't the right match for you doesn't make him a bad person. He just isn't right for you.



Nor does that make you a bad or inadequate person because you don't want such a Dominant.

Finding the right person is difficult... both have to agree.... it takes two to tango so to speak. It is not a bad thing if one says Yes and another says No to starting or ending a relationship. For a relationship to be successful.. it has to be Win Win... both saying Yes. I don't consider it wrong or bad for aperson to say No. It might be sad .. It might be difficult... but in the end... I think it is important that people make choices towards their individual happiness and not just existing for someone else's happiness. I don't think existing for someone else's happiness at the expense of ones own happiness is never a good thing in the long run.


You are right, existing to please another, always trying harder, but always failing, will not make me happy. I don't think I can please another who is unconcerned with my needs because I would eventually grow to resent him, hence a failure for both. Thank you.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:35:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened

You know what you want in a relationship. You know this guy isn't supplying what you want in a relationship. He is dangling the 'need you / marry you' like a carrot.... do you really want to the donkey he's dangling it for?

Sometimes it hurts to be alone. During those times it's natural to second-guess our needs and think we should maybe lower our expectations in order to not feel alone. There are better ways to chase away the lonlies. And there's a huge difference between lowering ones criteria and broadening ones criteria.

Best wishes to you. my advice? don't go.

Thank you very much. I think you are right. And, NO, I'm not going. It just took some feedback to help me be sure.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:40:50 PM   
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HisBabyGirl, you don't have a sign on your head that attracts them... but it does seem you have offered an invitation.  Look, I can understand that getting older and not wanting to be alone, but when a guy who isn't honorable can see this, he has an open invitation in your need for that final goal and will use it to get what he wants.  There are those that will prey upon others when they see a weakness and it is a weakness if feeling the way you do, you seek and don't remember past lessons in life.  He can only get away with what you allow him to.

Step back, think about it... while you are wasting time with a guy who is clearly taking advantage, you could be missing out on a great guy!  You suffer the aloneness... it hurts... it's hard... but think of how hard it is if you accept less than what you are worth?  You spend time with this bad one or another and find yourself even older and still alone.  Might as well stick it out now and not waste that time.

Getting involved with other things is no replacement for a loving relationship and keeping busy is in my opinion, a stalling tactic, but you can get sick and tired of the game and for your own sake find a way to handle that alone and dim look at the future.  How about looking around or doing a search to see how many do find that love of a lifetime when they are older and everything is sagging?  Love is not a numbers game and age is not a limitation.  I know many who have found love after the wrinkles and sags set in.  Find ways to fill your life with laughter and stop focusing on the need to have someone and the fear of not having someone.  Set your expectations high and one day... it will all fall into place.  Stop thinking that it could be too late, because that isn't true!

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:41:05 PM   
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Thank you. I think you are right, that many dominants believe that because they are the dominant that you will bend to their wishes, even if it means abandoning your own needs.

I need to be very careful not to give myself to someone like that because I think it would always end in resentment for me.

I suppose the thing that gave me hope of finding someone like that is because I did find someone like that. Unfortunately, before we met, he was introduced to another who captured his heart.

It was good to find there is such a one, but also painful knowing now that they do exist and that I found one but that he belongs to another. I respect that he cannot be mine, but a part of me persists playing the what if or if only game. A futile pastime to be sure.

Thank you for responding.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:42:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VenerableHouse

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The email I send him rarely gets any response. He calls me maybe once a week and it seems he wants help getting off (sexually)


Never make someone a priority when they only view you as an option.

If this feels so wrong now it won't likely get better. Go with your gut.

Very succinct and wise, thank you.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:46:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

Y'know what? I'm going to be the opposite of everyone else. Go. Meet the guy. Really.

You've got red flags galore waving in the wind.
You've asked for opinions and people have said in droves "run"
You've qualified and quantified your first post
You've made sure we all know what you're "sure" we misunderstood (oh yea...cause we can't read)
You've admitted that he's probably a loser and that you feel like a loser magnet.
And still you are going on about the possibility of relocating because you have the freedom to do that."

So go!

Nothing anyone says here is inducing you to change your mind. Nothing this man has said/hasn't said/has done/had failed to do has convinced you that you two aren't the right kind of match - even though you're saying it really seems like you're not. There's something inside of you that for some reason is holding out hope even though you say you know there are some significant differences in how you each approach relationships - differences you say matter. (Or, as my mom would say, "desperation can make coal look like diamonds.) Furthermore, nothing anyone can say WILL help you to see what is blatantly clear from what you've told us - because you don't want to look at it.

So go.

See for yourself. Make sure you're as safe as you can be in a place where you know no one while someone you've never met before who doesn't know you at all other than your conversations and the sound of your orgasms over the phone deludes you with promises of collarings and marriage, and oh yea... approaches you with the full expectation that you two will make what happened on the phone a fact face to face because you've allowed him that intimacy before - even if he wasn't right there.

Yep.. no real introductory conversations, no time spent getting to know you (the real you, not just how he's imagined you to be over the phone) - no chance for you to get to know the real him (verses how you've imagined him to be over the phone)... just the process of going from "hi. nice to finally meet you" to sexual situations (cause well, there IS 800 miles between you both and time is of the essence).

And when it's all done with and hopefully, you're home, you can come back here and tell us how you feel about him then. Cause if he doesn't match with you when you're conversing, just why do you think he's suddenly going to become all you've been looking for just because you're in front of one another.

But I'm curious. If you are already dissatisfied with his lack of "touchy feely" inclinations and you've never even met; if he isn't already contacting you more adequately by your standards while he's in pursuit of you (always a more intense time than any other) just how're you going to handle it when he's had you and that intensity has mellowed and he contacts you even less? How're you going to handle it when his lack of touchy feely begins to feel like rejection?

Have a great time.

juliet
You're right and you're wrong. You're right about your assessment of the likelihood he is right for me. You are wrong that I haven't listened to others.

I'm not going.

Thank you.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:47:40 PM   
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Your message is a bit confusing but overall I think you are pointing out the dangers inherent in this pursuit, which is a valid message.

Thank you for responding.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 2:53:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lockit

HisBabyGirl, you don't have a sign on your head that attracts them... but it does seem you have offered an invitation. Look, I can understand that getting older and not wanting to be alone, but when a guy who isn't honorable can see this, he has an open invitation in your need for that final goal and will use it to get what he wants. There are those that will prey upon others when they see a weakness and it is a weakness if feeling the way you do, you seek and don't remember past lessons in life. He can only get away with what you allow him to.

Step back, think about it... while you are wasting time with a guy who is clearly taking advantage, you could be missing out on a great guy! You suffer the aloneness... it hurts... it's hard... but think of how hard it is if you accept less than what you are worth? You spend time with this bad one or another and find yourself even older and still alone. Might as well stick it out now and not waste that time.

Getting involved with other things is no replacement for a loving relationship and keeping busy is in my opinion, a stalling tactic, but you can get sick and tired of the game and for your own sake find a way to handle that alone and dim look at the future. How about looking around or doing a search to see how many do find that love of a lifetime when they are older and everything is sagging? Love is not a numbers game and age is not a limitation. I know many who have found love after the wrinkles and sags set in. Find ways to fill your life with laughter and stop focusing on the need to have someone and the fear of not having someone. Set your expectations high and one day... it will all fall into place. Stop thinking that it could be too late, because that isn't true!

Thank you for your thoughtful response. Thank you for the encouragement that true love can come long after the bloom is off the rose.

I do keep busy, it is not that I am bored. It is that I took so long to realize and accept the kind of person I am (submissive and otherwise) and having accepted it, I long to fulfill it. But you are right, several times in my life I have been with the wrong person (once in marriage and other times in other ways) and it was just as dissatisfying as being alone, and a lot more harmful/painful.

Thank you for redirecting my thoughts and hopefully I will be able to remember your words (or come back to read your thoughts and everyone else who took their time to respond) when I doubt my decisions.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 3:42:30 PM   
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You asked if you were looking/expecting the impossible....
 
I don`t think you or, nor would I hope anyone...is, in any kind of relationship...that they seek.
 
I am not one to believe *those in the lifestyle* have any deeper kind of relationships than those people call...*vanilla*
 
There were times in the past a few people talked to me till they were blue in the face about meeting so and...so.
 
Did I listen? Nawwww....I have a need to find out on my own...
 
Shoot for the stars...lifes to short.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 7:27:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HizBabyGirl

Thank you. I think you are right, that many dominants believe that because they are the dominant that you will bend to their wishes, even if it means abandoning your own needs.

I need to be very careful not to give myself to someone like that because I think it would always end in resentment for me.


*sighs*  Unfortunately, I don't think you understood a thing I said.  To make myself much clearer, I think you are being unreasonable in your expectations. 

Do I believe you should go see this dom?  No.  It is obvious that he couldn't be further from your desires.

Do I believe that you will ever find exactly what you are looking for?  I have no idea, but I doubt it.

Do I believe you could come close to what you want?  Yes, but I believe that it will require you taking a realistic look at what you are asking for.  Reading your original posting, I saw a very self-centered woman who just couldn't understand why this dominant wasn't giving her what she wanted.   That impression was solidified by reading your profile. 

I'm not saying that you shouldn't have your requirements, and if you've ever read any of my posts here in the forum, you'll note that I'm the one who says do not compromise what you are looking for.  However, that advice is generally assuming that the individual concerned is self-aware, cognizant of the differences between men and women, and has an understanding of the D/s dynamic. 

I'm sorry, but I don't get the feeling that those apply to you at this time.  The impression I get is of a woman who has some romantic idea that a magical dominant is going to sweep her off her feet, pamper the little girl in her, and give her everything she wants, when she wants, exactly how she wants.  Your profile neatly lays out just exactly how you want your fantasy daddy dom to behave, right down to what he should say, how he should give you medical exams, bite your nipples and give you spankings.

I hate to be the one to sound so cruel, but honestly... you present yourself as the perfect wank material but nothing more.  I wouldn't be surprised that you are having a difficult time connecting with a serious dominant.

Look... dominant men are first and foremost, men.  There's nothing special about them... they do not possess any special insight into women, they are not knights in shining armor, and they are not a life-support system for your fantasies.  Dominants who wish to find a sub to have a long-term relationship aren't going to be impressed with a sub who gives them directions and a script... they aren't typically looking for a do-me sub.  They are dominants because they want to be the one in control.

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ORIGINAL: HizBabyGirl

I suppose the thing that gave me hope of finding someone like that is because I did find someone like that. Unfortunately, before we met, he was introduced to another who captured his heart.


Which tells me right there that you are living in an online fantasy.  You hadn't even met him... for God's sake, how on earth can you possibly say you know what he was really like?  I suspect you saw only what you wanted to see... looking through the internet's rose-tinted glasses.  I wouldn't be surprised if this other who "captured his heart" was either a made up excuse to say goodbye to you, or someone else he found while continuing to search.

And to be honest, he doesn't sound so great if his heart can be so easily captured by another while interacting with you.

Again, I am sorry this is so blunt and critical.  I really don't mean to rain on your parade, but for a woman your age, you are being awfully naive.  I guess I just hate to see a grown woman paint such a large target on her heart.

< Message edited by TreasureKY -- 5/24/2008 7:43:32 PM >

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 7:59:53 PM   
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HizBabyGirl, I'm glad that you decided not to go. I think that was a wise decision that you really already knew before ever even posting to the boards.

If you don't mind my voicing my opinions about whether you're looking for and/or expecting the impossible...my opinion based on what I've read in this post is "Yes." My reasons for this come from the feeling that, although you have very high standards for yourself (nothing wrong with that!), you seem to lack any feelings of self-worth. Because of that, and also because you seem to equate being submissive with being a doormat, you tend to attract the types of "losers" that you described in your post.

My best friend is one of the sweetest people ever to walk the earth, but for years, she has allowed men to trample all over her. She would go out of her way to meet them, cook for for them, call them constantly...and they'd often treat her very poorly, or eventually just disappear without any warning or explanation. The bottom line is that her neediness showed through to them like a beacon. She wanted so desperately to love someone and be loved in return that she sometimes treated complete strangers better than she treated her closest friends. It was only after many, many years of being "shit on" that she finally started to realize that SHE was the only common denominator in her failed attempts at relationships. It wasn't that she was a bad person, or unworthy of being loved -- but that the men she met had no respect for her because she was just too easy (and I don't even mean that in the sexual sense). And the worse they treated her, the more her self-esteem suffered, the harder she tried to please them, and the cycle continued.

I'd recommend that you read the book "Why Men Love Bitches." Let me tell you, that book described my best friend to a "T" -- as the type of woman NOT to be in a relationship. (And before anyone bashes me about the title, the term "Bitch" isn't used in the typical sense of being rude and arrogant.) Just because you're a submissive, it doesn't mean that you don't deserve respect and that you have to be anyone's doormat. I'm a submissive also, but my self-worth will never be trampled underneath anyone's bootheel.

Best of luck to you!

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/24/2008 11:02:32 PM   
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Your gut instinct is correct and actions speak louder than words.  Communication and honesty are the few things I look for in a dom and unfortunately, your telephone dom does not exhibit the maturity to listen to your wants, concerns and needs.

Being alone and getting older is not the greatest thing, either but I would rather wait until I can submit to that dom who is compatible for me.   I can definitely relate to you because I also have the knack of attracting loser magnets but I run for the hills once I detect them.  So far, I like the freedom in getting to know what I want and like you, I want it all; however, I am not going to have a record of going with a series of fakes who hide behind that egotistical dominance of the "Me-Tarzan, you Jane" mentality. 

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/25/2008 2:32:37 AM   
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HizBabyGirl:

TreasureKY has hit the nail on the head.  Read, then re-read, then try to absorb what she has said.

Let me put it another way.  A couple i know wanted to buy a house.  That's all they talked about, that was all they thought about.  Rather than work a little harder to build a better credit score, save a bigger down-payment, be willing to look and look and look, they bought the first house they qualified for.  The house was totally NOT what they wanted or needed and wasn't even in their desired location.  But by all gods they had a HOUSE.  Then they started tearing down walls, trying to make the house their dream house.  It took no time at all before they learned that you can't move load-bearing walls and eventually they wen't totally broke trying to make the absolutely wrong house into their dream house.  Within a year of buying this thing, they were divorced and the albatross sat on the market for nearly three years....

You're not a loser magnet!  What you are doing is leaping to the assumption that with enough work you can remodel either yourself or him or both to make every man you meet a 'potential'.  Of course this has a 99% chance of failure so you assume you are attracting losers.  No, you are assuming every man you attract is or could be right for you, given enough re-work.  Stop it.  Be willing to say to yourself  'not right for me, ....next!'

Oh, and for the record.  Age isn't a barrier or a deal-breaker unless you make it one.  i'm 55 years old and recieved my first (and last) collar 7 months ago.

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RE: Am I looking/expecting the impossible? - 5/25/2008 8:14:32 AM   
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If you have to ask, you're wasting your time, unless of course you ask and despite what everyone here tells you, you go anyway.  In that case, maybe not.  If he's the one for you, you will find yourself irresistably pulled to him.  If you can take him or leave him, trust me, leave him.

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