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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 6:52:09 AM   
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NOT metrosexual .

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 6:54:04 AM   
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i always thought of "metrosexual" in a bit of a negative way......men dressing and looking the way society tells them they need to look...

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 6:55:54 AM   
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As opposed to them dressing like?

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 6:59:06 AM   
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i always thought of "metrosexual" in a bit of a negative way......men dressing and looking the way society tells them they need to look...


Oh? You mean there's like rules about the way they have to dress or something like that?
And where does the "sexual" part come in?
And why not ballcaps?

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:00:10 AM   
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Metrosexuality, what does it mean to you, and is it the right direction for males to evolve ?

Nothing... just another buzz word I occassionally hear people bandi about.  Apparently it has something to do with being an androgynous, effeminate, fashion plate... but not being gay... possibly bi... I'm not really sure.  Never got around to investigating it much because mostly... I just don't give a damn.

I don't think dress codes count as part of evolution, at least I think its some form of dress code... could be wrong.

If its a behavior some guys want to adopt... and it works for them... hurray for them an all.

The only reason I'm even vaguely aware of all this is because some guy once said he thought I was a metrosexual.  I was at a nice resteraunt and dressed well for the occasion.  I had no idea what it was, but several of the ladies present who knew me seemed to find his remark extremely funny.  Later, one of them explained he was trying to insult me and what made it funny that they all knew I was more or less the opposite of a metrosexual.  I'm still not sure what the opposite of that is... or why his remark was an insult... but apparently I the opposite of that... whatever "that" is.

What ever happened to just being a gentleman?

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:02:11 AM   
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What ever happened to just being a gentleman?

I think it was made illegal during the Clinton presidency.

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:03:11 AM   
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i always thought of "metrosexual" in a bit of a negative way......men dressing and looking the way society tells them they need to look...


Oh? You mean there's like rules about the way they have to dress or something like that?
And where does the "sexual" part come in?
And why not ballcaps?


yes...following the "dress for success" thing or what ever you want to call it....projecting the GQ image.
And as far as where the sexual part comes in......dunno...i didn't coin the phrase.


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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:04:32 AM   
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I never got the memo...

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:04:54 AM   
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A metrosexual is someone that takes pride in his appearance as opposed to the stereotypical male that supposedly doesn't. I'm not really sure why it's an insult I would have taken it as a compliment.
Reading anything more into it than that is pointless.
 

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:11:02 AM   
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i always thought of "metrosexual" in a bit of a negative way......men dressing and looking the way society tells them they need to look...


Oh? You mean there's like rules about the way they have to dress or something like that?
And where does the "sexual" part come in?
And why not ballcaps?


yes...following the "dress for success" thing or what ever you want to call it....projecting the GQ image.
And as far as where the sexual part comes in......dunno...i didn't coin the phrase.



Sheesh, I'm getting more confused!
Now what's the "G.Q. image?"

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:13:01 AM   
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it is the male version of the "Cosmo image"...GQ (gertlemans quarterly) is a mens magazine..

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:14:54 AM   
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i always thought of "metrosexual" in a bit of a negative way......men dressing and looking the way society tells them they need to look...


Oh? You mean there's like rules about the way they have to dress or something like that?
And where does the "sexual" part come in?
And why not ballcaps?


yes...following the "dress for success" thing or what ever you want to call it....projecting the GQ image.
And as far as where the sexual part comes in......dunno...i didn't coin the phrase.


Dress for success according to what standards?  What I mean is, if I going to a meeting in an office I'm going to show up wearing a nice business suit.  If I'm bidding a contracting job I either wear a nice clear pair of new jeans or khakis and a business shirt with the company logo on the breast pocket.  If I'm working with the guys, I wear work jeans and a company work shirt.  If I'm out four wheeling, I wear old jeans and a t-shirt.  If I'm going out to a business dinner at an expensive resteraunt... then I break out the Italian suit.

To me that was part of being raised a gentleman, you dress appropriately for the occasion.

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:18:46 AM   
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I like a male who takes care of himself and Im currently training my male in this. Before he was a baseball cap tshirt-n-jeans kind of guy. Thats ok in certain circumstances but not when your going somewhere that requires better dress. I also have him taking better care of his body/hair/skin, something he never did before. His skin looks so much better as does his hair and this translates into him feeling better about himself.

So as long as its not taken TOO far (I don't like fighting guys over a purse I like in Nordstroms) its ok with me. ~Lashra


I agree, Lashra. While I find the concept of metrosexuality absurd, there are too many men out there who think the height of fashion is wearing a baseball cap to every occasion. I often wonder if the frackin' things even come off! I mean, do they sleep in the stupid things?

Oh, and don't worry about the purse, Lashra, you can take him.



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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:20:15 AM   
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The problem is that we live in a society that constantly vilifies men so they produce this label metrosexual which basically describes a lot of men of the past anyway. The label is meaningless for the reasons you pointed out. If we lived in a society that took a dim view of grouping all men together as beer drinking, loud mouth layabouts the label metrosexual wouldn't exist.

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:24:44 AM   
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To me that was part of being raised a gentleman, you dress appropriately for the occasion.


Well said!! Thats why i think the Metrosexual stuff is so silly


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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:25:02 AM   
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The problem is that we live in a society that constantly vilifies men so they produce this label metrosexual which basically describes a lot of men of the past anyway.



We live in a society that constantly vilifies everybody.

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:27:52 AM   
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That's true. It's about time we stopped picking on Paris Hilton she doesn’t really drink blood and sleep in a coffin.

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:28:32 AM   
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Just another term to try and seperate people or put pressure onto some.
 
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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:29:17 AM   
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Metro-sexuality, what does it mean to you,

A marketing campaign by the cosmetic, shoe, and fashion industries to expand their potential market 100%.

Check any mall -
Shoe stores:
Woman -50
Men -2
(Woman's shoe closet 75 pairs, in amazing shapes and sizes, made in every know fabric & animal skin, in more colors than what can be shown on a LCD screen.) - Men's: 3 pair; sneaks, boots, black dress, and maybe a pair of sandals.)

Clothing boutiques
Woman - 15
Men - 1

Lingerie
Woman 4
Men - 0 (Although maybe they are for the men?)

'Product' ('Bath & Body Works', 'Body Shop', etc.)
Woman - 6
Men - 0 (Who only get their after shave at Drug stores usually purchased in late May or June, when what they received as Holiday gifts has all be used.)

Convince another gender to be so focused and you have the next economic upturn.
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is it the right direction

Yes - I have investments in these industries.

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RE: Metrosexuality ? - 6/1/2008 7:30:30 AM   
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Okay dammit... now you folks got me curious so I Googled.  This is what Wikipedia had to say.

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Metrosexual is a neologism generally applied to heterosexual men with a strong concern for their appearance, or whose lifestyles display attributes stereotypically seen among gay men. The metro- (mother[1]) prefix indicates this man's purely urban lifestyle, while the -sexual suffix comes from "heterosexual," meaning that this man, although he is usually straight, embodies the heightened aesthetic sense often associated with certain types of gay men.


And also this

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The term originated in an article by Mark Simpson ("Here come the mirror men"[2]) published on November 15, 1994, in The Independent. Simpson wrote:

Metrosexual man, the single young man with a high disposable income, living or working in the city (because that’s where all the best shops are), is perhaps the most promising consumer market of the decade. In the Eighties he was only to be found inside fashion magazines such as GQ, in television advertisements for Levis jeans or in gay bars. In the Nineties, he’s everywhere and he’s going shopping.


The term increased greatly in popularity following Simpson's 2002 Salon.com article "Meet the metrosexual", which identified David Beckham as the metrosexual posterboy. The advertising agency Euro RCSG Worldwide adopted the term shortly thereafter for a marketing study, and the New York Times published a Sunday feature, "Metrosexuals Come Out"; the story trickled into local news outlets across North America.
Simpson's Salon.com definition is more nuanced than the term's common use today.

"The typical metrosexual is a young man with money to spend, living in or within easy reach of a metropolis – because that's where all the best shops, clubs, gyms and hairdressers are. He might be officially gay, straight or bisexual, but this is utterly immaterial because he has clearly taken himself as his own love object and pleasure as his sexual preference. Particular professions, such as modeling, waiting tables, media, pop music and, nowadays, sport, seem to attract them but, truth be told, like male vanity products and herpes, they're pretty much everywhere.

"For some time now, old-fashioned (re)productive, repressed, unmoisturized heterosexuality has been given the pink slip by consumer capitalism. The stoic, self-denying, modest straight male didn't shop enough (his role was to earn money for his wife to spend), and so he had to be replaced by a new kind of man, one less certain of his identity and much more interested in his image – that's to say, one who was much more interested in being looked at (because that's the only way you can be certain you actually exist). A man, in other words, who is an advertiser's walking wet dream."[3]



Then on another site I found this...


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A metrosexual is a man who spends a certain amount of time and money on his lifestyle, specifically his appearance. Here are a few questions that will help you to ascertain whether or not you are, indeed, a metrosexual.

  1. Do gay men hit on you? If you're a metrosexual, it's already happened. (Who can blame them for trying?) And while you were flattered, you're really a het (and maybe even a "hef") at heart. The term, "metrosexual," as originally coined, described heterosexual men who have adopted the dress and appearance of gay men.
  2. Do you carry a purse? A purse gives you an automatic entrée into metrosexualdom. Welcome. And by the way, which designer? See a good-looking manbag at PurseBlog. And find the top ten ultimate metrosexual man bags at Kineda.
  3. How do you feel about your socks? As you read this, do you know what color socks you are wearing? Are they designer socks? Did you put these particular socks on this morning because they were at the top of your drawer or because they go well with your outfit? And finally, do you ever go shopping for socks only? Your consideration of your socks reflects your overall concern with your clothes: Metrosexual men care about socks, along with everything else that adorns their sacred bods.

  4. Do you wear tighty whities? Sorry about that. A metrosexual would never be caught dead in a pair of tighty whities. Given the choice, they would rather go without any underwear at all than succumb. And come to think of it, going commando sounds pretty good to a metrosexual (maybe in his new leather pants)!
  5. Do you use more than one product in your hair? Do you refer to your hair products as "products?" Two yeses here make you a met. And you get bonus points if your hair is highlighted.

  6. Have you ever used hair removal services other than shaving? You know -- waxing, tweezing, laser, electrolysis? If so, you've entered metro country.

  7. Do you receive spa services? Does a paraffin dip help to calm you? Manicures, pedicures, facials and exfoliation are all part of a metrosexual's routine. Bonus points if you're a regular and/or see your stylist socially.
  8. Do you borrow products from the women in your life? Does your co-worker have a moisturizer that you just can't go without a hit of come mid-afternoon? Does your girlfriend wonder why she seems to be going through her toner so quickly? When she's not looking, do you use her shaving gel instead of yours? And when she is looking, do you use it anyway? Metro alert!

Now what the hell is a "manpurse"?  Nevermind... I don't want to know.

For the record, my socks are white, I carry a wallet, and while I try to dress appropriately I'm by no means a "clothes horse". 

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