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 When is somebody gonna slam Ole Abe ? I mean, he didn't serve in the military. He was responsible for the death and maiming of thousands of his own countrymen. He freed the lazyass darkies and ruined the economy of the South for decades, and he died while enjoying a play put on by a buch of faggy thespians.
Don't even get me started on Martin.
C'mon, let all that right wing fascist hatred out. You'll feel better.
Why don't y'all go piss on somebody else's grave ?
I have slammed Abraham Lincoln. He was a tyrant, and he single-handedly destroyed our status as a Republic. If you think the American Civil War was about freeing slaves, than you have a simple-minded view of history.
I am far from being a fascist, and that is a typical insult from someone on the Left. The Kennedys have never done anything I find admirable. Unlike the sheep in this country, I don't worship them or find them fascinating. When I hear some moron describe the Kennedys as our royal family, I want to fucking choke them.
Lincoln never intended to free the slaves. He woke up with a bad hang over the next day and said "I FREED WHO???"  Ok just joking - but Lincoln was not the champion of racial equality he was believed to be. There are numerous historical documents suggesting that he wanted to abolish slavery AND TO REPATRIATE SLAVES. Ie - he didnt love black people so much he wanted them free, he hated them enough that he wanted them out of this country even if at the time they were legally chattel.
Which raises another interesting point... and one Im sure will light many tampon strings. While this legal argument would never hold up in todays courts using todays moral code - what lincoln did in emancipation was LEGALLY WRONG. No person shall be deprived of property without due process. The slaves were, under the law of the land at the time, property. They were legally acquired, highly expensive pieces of farm machinery, bought at auctions and they came with a bill of sale. They were what is legally known as "chattle" ie "personal property". The emancipation proclamation was a unilateral presidential declaration under which tens of thousands of Americans were deprived of millions of dollars worth of property that they acquired legally and paid for with their hard earned dollars.
Talk about overstepping Presidential authotity! Imagine if for instance Bush declared that "Henceforth, all Ford Explorers are set free and can not be owned, bought, or sold". Well you know, I would be pretty pissed cause Im out $38,000 and where is my compensation and due process??? Don't give me the moral argument of keeping slaves as being wrong etc, or branding me a racist, because thats not what I am discussing here. I am referring unemotionally and only to the isssues of PROPERTY LAW, which is the legal status the slaves had at the time - chattel property used in agricultural production. (Im not saying thatsright, but thats the law of the time) Emancipation was a tremendous smear upon the property rights of Southern Americans. They didnt get compensated for the slaves they lost, they didnt get due process, etc... It was analagous to a modern day presisident saying "All John Deere Equipment is now set free and you get nothing for it". To have emancipated properly, and legally, they should have handled it with a buy back program or grandfather the existing slaves but deny the importation of new ones and say that all new births are free men etc... So Lincoln was actually the first president to run roughshod across the constitution....
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