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Alumbrado -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/3/2008 5:00:14 PM)
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
Alumbrado,
We've crossed swords a few times, but generally I really enjoy reading your post. Except for a few blind spots that you have (as we all do), I have a high regard for your intellect.
In this thread, however, you aren't coming across very well.
I don't read all the threads, for various reasons. Primarily, lately, because I've just been too busy to devote that much time to it. So I've probably missed most of what you are referring to, about Obama.
I'm not a believer in a lot of the political flack that flies around about him being a "closet Muslim" and all that stuff. I really don't care if Wright was a little more circumspect on one occasion about his views, when they were recorded..
What I thought you had done was provide a concise debunking to many of the politically motivated "stories" concerning him, and a link wouldn't be that hard.
But if you are saying that you have, at different times, in several different threads, debunked all of the myths that you have seen, and feel it is too much of an imposition to round them all up, that's fine.
Just say that, rather than insulting anyone that you believe doesn't believe that Obama is the second coming of JFK.
Personally, I'd love to love Obama, and believe his rhetoric. But I'm often a cynic, especially when it comes to politicians, and mass movements.
Debunking is great. It is a needed service, and contributes to critical thinking. But at the end of the day, it's a negative thing. It only tells us what is false. It doesn't tell us what is true, or what the positive reasons are that would motivate anyone to support him.
What are the reasons that I (or anyone else) should vote for Obama?
Firm
What a load of nonsense....if you refuse to look at the links, and continue to promote the hoaxes, how does that make the person who debunked them a mindless Obama worshipper who has insulted you?
The question is, what are the rational reasons that anyone with a lick of sense should believe the fabricated hoaxes about Obama, Wright, Mcain, Hillary, or anyone else?
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