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celticlord2112 -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 2:21:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomAviator

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic



        Unfortunately, this was the theme music for the Democrat leadership of New Orleans...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW_cVAgmT28




No, actually THIS was the NOLA Katrina Theme Song -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H2A-x7agIY

ROFLMAO!!!!!

That was priceless!




SugarMyChurro -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 4:13:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
I had never heard of this story - it's really shocking [>:] . Has there been any effort to 'compensate' the victims?


The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762136.html

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
And how did doctors justify getting involved in such a blatant violation of the Hippocratic oath?


Is that a joke? They were niggers!

Welcome to the United States...

[:-]




rulemylife -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 6:16:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

You got fired for say "niggling little details?"  Someone needs some prozac.

Honestly, I think that many are playing the race card to make it seem worse.  If whites think he is antiwhite, they'll get defensive and shift to Billary.  It is a plan on the part of someone who thinks she "deserves" to be president.   It is the way of the Clinton political machine to use anything relevant or irrelevant to attempt to destroy their opponents.
It is sad that many are starting to fall for it.  I may not think Obama is the best candidate we coulld pick but he is far better than his opponent.


   i imagine prozac might have been a solution.  there was no way to talk my way out of this without making the person responsible for my company's contract look like a fool.  Rather than make an issue of it, i apologized and moved on.
  




Well, not to question your story, but it sure sounds an awful lot like this:











rulemylife -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 6:36:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

Obama being qualified or not qualified isn't the item under discussion. Precious little has been said about his actual abilities

The point is, that instead of demonstrating his inadequacies, these forums have been flooded with a pack of easily disproven lies about his being sworn in on a Koran, his being a muslim terrorist, his being a corrupt politician come up through the Chicago ward system, his not being a US citizen, his 'playing the race card'  (by writing an autobiography identifying his father as black), and a similar spate of lies about Wright...draft dodger, fraud, racist, and author of the 'chickens come home to roost' quote on 9/11 victims....  





Isn't it sad that his qualifications aren't the item under discussion?  Instead of trying to demonstrate his qualifications you do exactly what you claim your opponents do in "failing to demonstrate his inadequacies" by failing to demonstrate his qualifications..  Every post I've read from you on every political thread on this site has just been a rant against what you see as unfairness or discrimination toward him without ANY substantive argument about why you think I should vote for the man. 




FirmhandKY -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 6:56:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Isn't it sad that his qualifications aren't the item under discussion?  Instead of trying to demonstrate his qualifications you do exactly what you claim your opponents do in "failing to demonstrate his inadequacies" by failing to demonstrate his qualifications..  Every post I've read from you on every political thread on this site has just been a rant against what you see as unfairness or discrimination toward him without ANY substantive argument about why you think I should vote for the man. 


Yuppers.  I specifically asked him in Post 122 why anyone should vote for Obama, and all I got was insulted.  [sm=blasted.gif]

Firm




rulemylife -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 7:24:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

You got fired for say "niggling little details?"  Someone needs some prozac.

Honestly, I think that many are playing the race card to make it seem worse.  If whites think he is antiwhite, they'll get defensive and shift to Billary.  It is a plan on the part of someone who thinks she "deserves" to be president.   It is the way of the Clinton political machine to use anything relevant or irrelevant to attempt to destroy their opponents.
It is sad that many are starting to fall for it.  I may not think Obama is the best candidate we coulld pick but he is far better than his opponent.


  i imagine prozac might have been a solution.  there was no way to talk my way out of this without making the person responsible for my company's contract look like a fool.  Rather than make an issue of it, i apologized and moved on.
 




Well, not to question your story but it sure sounds an awful lot like this:


[image]http://my.eimg.net/x.gif[/image]Washingtonpost.com: D.C. Mayor Acted 'Hastily,' Will Rehire Aide
"Niggardly" means miserly and has no racial connotation. ... Locally, it focused
attention on Williams's discomfort over criticism from some black residents ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm - Similar Pages
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atursvcMaam -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 7:29:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

You got fired for say "niggling little details?"  Someone needs some prozac.

Honestly, I think that many are playing the race card to make it seem worse.  If whites think he is antiwhite, they'll get defensive and shift to Billary.  It is a plan on the part of someone who thinks she "deserves" to be president.   It is the way of the Clinton political machine to use anything relevant or irrelevant to attempt to destroy their opponents.
It is sad that many are starting to fall for it.  I may not think Obama is the best candidate we coulld pick but he is far better than his opponent.


  i imagine prozac might have been a solution.  there was no way to talk my way out of this without making the person responsible for my company's contract look like a fool.  Rather than make an issue of it, i apologized and moved on.
 




Well, not to question your story, but it sure sounds an awful lot like this:










  Somehow or another your reference disappeared, i would be curious, but not terribly surprised if something similar had happened.  If you are citing a legal case, then it wasn't me. 
   Personally i feel stupid for having used an expression that could be misinterpreted, don't use it any more, and have moved on. 




rulemylife -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 7:33:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

You got fired for say "niggling little details?"  Someone needs some prozac.

Honestly, I think that many are playing the race card to make it seem worse.  If whites think he is antiwhite, they'll get defensive and shift to Billary.  It is a plan on the part of someone who thinks she "deserves" to be president.   It is the way of the Clinton political machine to use anything relevant or irrelevant to attempt to destroy their opponents.
It is sad that many are starting to fall for it.  I may not think Obama is the best candidate we coulld pick but he is far better than his opponent.


i imagine prozac might have been a solution.  there was no way to talk my way out of this without making the person responsible for my company's contract look like a fool.  Rather than make an issue of it, i apologized and moved on.





Well, not to question your story, but it sure sounds an awful lot like this:










Somehow or another your reference disappeared, i would be curious, but not terribly surprised if something similar had happened.  If you are citing a legal case, then it wasn't me. 
  Personally i feel stupid for having used an expression that could be misinterpreted, don't use it any more, and have moved on. 


Yeah, I reposted it.  Somehow it got lost on the original and it wouldn't let me edit.




atursvcMaam -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:00:57 AM)

     Thanks for reposting.  Yes i did hear that story as well, the details are different in my case, but the idea of a misunderstood word causing difficulty is something that i should have known and avoided.  The company i was working for subcontracted to another company which had a zero tolerance policy for racism.  The accusation did not even have to be proven.  Had i tried to fight it, and won, then i would have made the supervisor that approved my company's contract look like a fool, and the contract came up for approval annually.
       the most pragmatic solution seemed to be to let the supervisor remain uninformed and uninsulted, and let the company that i had worked for continue to do their thing.
       i have and will remain very vague about the companies and people involved so as not to stir up any animosity.  i'm over it and they seem to be over it.  Stuff happens.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:08:44 AM)

"I specifically asked him in Post 122 why anyone should vote for Obama, and all I got was insulted". 

We keep hearing this crap time and time again but, curiously, I have never heard anyone from the right ask why they should vote for McCain.




celticlord2112 -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:19:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Isn't it sad that his qualifications aren't the item under discussion? Instead of trying to demonstrate his qualifications you do exactly what you claim your opponents do in "failing to demonstrate his inadequacies" by failing to demonstrate his qualifications.. Every post I've read from you on every political thread on this site has just been a rant against what you see as unfairness or discrimination toward him without ANY substantive argument about why you think I should vote for the man.


Yuppers. I specifically asked him in Post 122 why anyone should vote for Obama, and all I got was insulted. [sm=blasted.gif]

Firm


Now, Firm....just because a certain angry D-type reacts to intelligent questions with bile is no reason to take it personally.....[8D]




KaineD -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:36:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

If Obama wins, say sayonara to the United States of America.

The man is a racist, terrorist-appeaser, anti-American, and is completely unqualified for the job.


Oh come on.  Anti-american?  Terrorist appeaser?  We've been hearing that kind of nonsense under the Bush administration for years now, used against anyone that leans slightly to the left.  Typical fear mongering.




kittinSol -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:39:18 AM)

McCarthy lives on, under a different guise.




celticlord2112 -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:43:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KaineD

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

If Obama wins, say sayonara to the United States of America.

The man is a racist, terrorist-appeaser, anti-American, and is completely unqualified for the job.


Oh come on. Anti-american? Terrorist appeaser? We've been hearing that kind of nonsense under the Bush administration for years now, used against anyone that leans slightly to the left. Typical fear mongering.

Obama is on record as saying he would talk sans pre-conditions with Hamas and the Iranians. So yeah, terrorist appeaser is about right....




KaineD -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:50:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Obama is on record as saying he would talk sans pre-conditions with Hamas and the Iranians. So yeah, terrorist appeaser is about right....


What is it about diplomacy that scares you?

Ireland, 30 years of terrorist war.  How was it eventually solved?  Diplomacy.  The IRA decommissioned their weapons, and the DUP finally agreed to sit in government with Sinn Fein. 




kittinSol -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:53:39 AM)

Could the problem be that diplomacy requires reflexion and intelligent negotiation, not just the imposition of brute force?




Irishknight -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:56:14 AM)

I thought negotiation involved an intelligent exchange of ideas backed up by a lot of guns .... j/k




KaineD -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:56:46 AM)

I find the idea of people criticizing Obama for talking to other world leaders even if they are considered enemies kind of silly.

So diplomacy isn't an option...

What is?  Standing safely in your country, and glaring at the other guy from across the sea?  Giving other countries idle threats?




kittinSol -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 8:58:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

I thought negotiation involved an intelligent exchange of ideas backed up by a lot of guns .... j/k


Actually, that's not far from the truth either [:D] .




celticlord2112 -> RE: Does Obama have the Democratic Nomination? (6/4/2008 9:01:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KaineD

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Obama is on record as saying he would talk sans pre-conditions with Hamas and the Iranians. So yeah, terrorist appeaser is about right....


What is it about diplomacy that scares you?

Ireland, 30 years of terrorist war. How was it eventually solved? Diplomacy. The IRA decommissioned their weapons, and the DUP finally agreed to sit in government with Sinn Fein.

Nothing about diplomacy scares me. Diplomacy, however, requires that both sides be willing to actually move towards a common set of objectives. There is zero indication that Iran especially has any desire to moderate its position on anything.

The Good Friday accords in Northern Ireland came about because both sides were willing to move towards peace, and, with a bit of doing, took the steps necessary to get there. Key being BOTH sides.

Talking with Iran is a one sided conversation. That's not diplomacy....merely naive stupidity.




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