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popeye1250 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 4:40:49 PM)
I have a first aid kit in my trunk along with a box of rubber gloves and towels. And a fire extinguisher and bottled water. And in a few rooms in this place I have gallons of "hurricane water" lamps, flashlights, new batteries every year from Costco and a radio powered by a 9 volt battery. And plenty of canned food, juice, guns and ammo. I'd be AWFUL grumpy without my coffee in the mornings though so I have two jars of instant. And my neighbors have plenty too and some of them don't own guns.[:D]

Alumbrado -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 5:55:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval Good morning, camille, As mentioned in the article, people often freeze during moments of high stress and are unable to respond to the situation. Vendaval Viktor Frankl documented this well during his holocaust experiences. Training and equipment are great, but they rarely address this issue...and merely buying a bunch of survivalist gear isn't going to magically make everyone 'unfreeze' at the moment of crisis... Rather, it is the lifelong habit of getting yourself to do the inconvenient but right things in little matters that makes the difference in bigger crises.

pinksugarsub -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 6:01:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval "How to Survive a Disaster" Thursday, May. 29, 2008 By Amanda Ripley "Risk experts understand how we could overcome our blind spots and more intelligently hedge our bets. In laboratories and on shooting ranges, there are people who study what happens to bodies and minds under extreme duress. Military researchers conduct elaborate experiments to try to predict who will melt down in a crisis and who will thrive. Police, soldiers, race-car drivers and helicopter pilots train to anticipate the strange behaviors they will encounter at the worst of times. Regular people can learn from that knowledge, since, after all, we will be the first on the scene of any disaster." http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1810315-1,00.html i'm probably not going to be very helpful in a 'disaster'...but i was great at handling things like trips to the ER when i was raising my kid. i can stay cool when i need to in my personal life, but i don't see myself as much help to a whole bunch of P/pl who've just been struck down in some way. pinksugarsub

JohnSteed1967 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 6:04:29 PM)
What to do in case of a Nuclear Bomb: spread your legs apart plant them firmly bend over grab your ankles Kiss Your Ass GOODBYE!

DomAviator -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 6:43:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967 What to do in case of a Nuclear Bomb: spread your legs apart plant them firmly bend over grab your ankles Kiss Your Ass GOODBYE! Actually, the above is a misconception. Unless you were within a few miles of the target a nuclear attack is survivable - IF you learn how and prepare.

popeye1250 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 6:48:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval "How to Survive a Disaster" Thursday, May. 29, 2008 By Amanda Ripley "Risk experts understand how we could overcome our blind spots and more intelligently hedge our bets. In laboratories and on shooting ranges, there are people who study what happens to bodies and minds under extreme duress. Military researchers conduct elaborate experiments to try to predict who will melt down in a crisis and who will thrive. Police, soldiers, race-car drivers and helicopter pilots train to anticipate the strange behaviors they will encounter at the worst of times. Regular people can learn from that knowledge, since, after all, we will be the first on the scene of any disaster." http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1810315-1,00.html i'm probably not going to be very helpful in a 'disaster'...but i was great at handling things like trips to the ER when i was raising my kid. i can stay cool when i need to in my personal life, but i don't see myself as much help to a whole bunch of P/pl who've just been struck down in some way. pinksugarsub Well first you do "triage", see who's physically able to help and see who needs help. Then, get people out of immediate danger, stop bleeding, get people out from under rubble etc. Then establish communications with the outside world and emergency services if they haven't been disabled too. Establish a "base of operations." Seek out anyone with special skills, EMTs, Paramedics,Nurses, Doctors etc but some of them may be injured and require care too. We're lucky here, lots of retired military people = Medics and Corpsmen. And get the veterans to help get things organised, many of them were in adverse conditions and know instinctively what needs to be done and can get those things done. Seek out any shelter and clean water sources that are available. You might be on your own for days or weeks so gather anything of use, tools, gasoline, food, medical supplies. Assign tasks to different people who are able bodied so that they'll feel useful and can do something to help, most people will be in mild shock anyway so that will give them a feeling of normalcy. That's just off the top of my head and maybe not in proper sequence but it's a start.

kittinSol -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:05:35 PM)
Well, you've really thought this through. Congratulations. Now... are you sitting pretty in the hope a disaster strikes, or are you putting all your preparations to good use already [:D] ?

popeye1250 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:11:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Well, you've really thought this through. Congratulations. Now... are you sitting pretty in the hope a disaster strikes, or are you putting all your preparations to good use already [:D] ? Kittin, chalk it up to military training and I was an EMT and I'm certified in CPR by the Red Cross. Hell no I don't hope a disaster strikes! I'm retired and living in paradise with a nice kiss in the mail every month! Do you think I want any disruptions to my routine?

kittinSol -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:12:52 PM)
Disruptions? I doubt it, but a little bit of distraction perhaps, hmmmm [;)] ?

popeye1250 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:16:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Disruptions? I doubt it, but a little bit of distraction perhaps, hmmmm [;)] ? Distractions? Such as?

kittinSol -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:18:12 PM)
A little earthquake maybe? A small localised hurricane? Perhaps a spot of flooding? The world's your oyster, mon petit :-) .

popeye1250 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:23:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol A little earthquake maybe? A small localised hurricane? Perhaps a spot of flooding? The world's your oyster, mon petit :-) . Hell no! I don't want any of that stuff! That could mean w-o-r-k!

windchymes -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:24:27 PM)
Every time I get on a plane, I find myself locating at least two emergency exits, gauge the people between me and them and decide who's capable of getting them open and who I'll have to knock out of the way to get to them myself. And then I check to see if there are any small children I can grab and take with me on my way out. Just in case I survive the crash.

kittinSol -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:30:08 PM)
Ah, but being ready in case of an airline emergency makes sense. Buying tons of guns, ammo, guard dogs and concrete bunkers to prepare for Armaggedon... not so much [8D] (not saying that's what pop is doing, I'm teasing him, because he loves it).

popeye1250 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:32:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes Every time I get on a plane, I find myself locating at least two emergency exits, gauge the people between me and them and decide who's capable of getting them open and who I'll have to knock out of the way to get to them myself. And then I check to see if there are any small children I can grab and take with me on my way out. Just in case I survive the crash. Wyndchymes, I do that too and look for potential troublemakers/terrorists. "Man, that fat guy's not getting out if this plane goes up in flames."

popeye1250 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:35:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Ah, but being ready in case of an airline emergency makes sense. Buying tons of guns, ammo, guard dogs and concrete bunkers to prepare for Armaggedon... not so much [8D] (not saying that's what pop is doing, I'm teasing him, because he loves it). Kittin, if this place goes up the Firefighters do not want to come in here! It's called "surround and drown." And get ready to duck real fast when the ammo cans start going up!

celticlord2112 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:36:13 PM)
quote: i can stay cool when i need to in my personal life, but i don't see myself as much help to a whole bunch of P/pl who've just been struck down in some way. You could change that...... For starters, get certified in CPR. Spend the extra bucks and take the class that teaches you how to use the AED--most offices and workplaces have them. Put a decent first aid kit in your car and keep it maintained--and learn how/when to use all the bits and pieces. Put a decent fire extinguisher next to the first aid kit. Those three steps right there will make you quite useful at the next accident scene you drive by.

popeye1250 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:42:05 PM)
Celticlord, that's true, you always want to try to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. And of course we'll do everything we can to help out the liberals too! We'll need people to fuck with later after the disaster!

celticlord2112 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:43:41 PM)
quote: And of course we'll do everything we can to help out the liberals too! Naturally....one should always be kind to the handicapped....

popeye1250 -> RE: "How to Survive a Disaster" (6/5/2008 7:46:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 quote: And of course we'll do everything we can to help out the liberals too! Naturally....one should always be kind to the handicapped.... Or those,..".less fortunate."

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