BigBaby
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Well wow thank you all for your input, nice comments and not saying "I told you so's" I guess I may have been a bit premature with this post as I just recieved an e-mail from Mommy and she told me that there were tornadoes where she lives and that the power was out for about 36 or so hours and I know it sounds like an excuse but I did confirm it by checking out the news for her area.....which is toledo ohio and the power was indeed out! I plan to still comunicate with her and am gonna be feeling pretty bad if she truly does show up? I am sure everyone knows the feeling of what your imagination can come up with as it relates to an internet relationship and maybe I jumped the gun a bit and maybe there will truly be a happy ending to this post? I am going to proceed ahead with caution and no more money sending as I have sent her enough and it has been eating at me!
I did read the red letter warning in this site and even mentioned it to her and she was very understanding of my reluctance to send her money and ultimately was my choice, she has continued correspondence with me upon recieving the money I sent which were not large amounts but enough for someone in my line of work.
I don't think alot of people realize how closely related baby play is to the bdsm world? Think of this....a crib is a cage, a pacifier is a gag, a diaper can be a form of chastity or bondage and they do make locking plastic panties, you are strapped into or restrained into a highchair and when you are a bad boy/girl you get spanked or punished! I also incorporate many aspects of bdsm in my fetish including restraints, spankings, corner time and various punishments. Probably the bigest factor differrentiating adult baby play and bdsm is the clothing we wear and diapers, I crave discipline/punishment just as much as most into bdsm just have added a cool little twist to it lol. How many times has anyone into bdsm been called a bad little boy or girl? Well I hope this makes sense and maybe warms some people up to us adult babys because I love me fetish and think it is not so "taboo" and the "diaper" thing I think is the major turn-off for most, I rarely use them just love the way they feel! Thanks again for being so nice to me and the understanding/compassion you have all showed me! baby jerry xoxo
I'm going to play devil's advocate here on the issue of her "taking" your money a few times when you willingly gave it to her. Everyone is quick to call her a scammer and right this off as you being duped. I think people are so quick to always blame the dominant in these cases when both parties are responsible. It's one thing when someone meets a sub online, demands money up front with some promises attached, then disappears and does not live up to their end of the bargain.
It is a DIFFERENT thing when someone provides someone money willingly during the process of courting out of their own free will NOT as part of an agreed upon exchange -- ie, "Here's the $50 you required for me to see you on cam" -- *poof*.
Let me ask people, if he had sent her some money to "help" her then in the course of talking on the phone he began to show traits she found worrisome or odd, and she lost interest, is she a scammer? When a vanilla guy takes a lady out on a few dates or buys her a gift and then she loses interest, is she now a "scammer" unless she returns the various things he bought her? Or is a scammer a woman that says "Pay me $100 and I will show up to your door naked" and then vanishes?
While her behavior may have been QUESTIONABLE she maintained an ongoing flirtatious and/or romantic exchange with him, over a period of time when he paid her some money. He WAS getting something out of it. Now, in my opinion if what she was doing was a roundabout way of "pay for play" with the dangled carrot of meeting, then YES, that's not ethical; however, if she was just accepting the gifts and he was willingly giving them as part of the courting process AND he was happy with what he was getting *in return* then there's no harm, no foul if she did just lose interest. Her method lacks tact, but that's not a trait specific to scammers.
If a submissive is providing money or gifts to a lady and she is not stating what he is getting in RETURN for those gifts, then they are simply that - GIFTS. It is his choice. It does not obligate her to continue to talk to him, to meet him, to dominate him or to fuck him. It sounds like he was more than happy to give her the money. The question comes about when he considers his motivation for sending the money and how it made HIM feel.
I have given money, toys and gifts to subs I was courting, full well knowing probably 1/2 of them would take the gifts and run - it's a calculated, willing risk I am happy to make. I ensure that I get the pleasure when I *give* the gift, not in what I *expect* in return. Hence the term "gift."
Akasha
Very well put and makes me feel even better about this, I probably should not have used the word scammer but at the time I wrote the post I was mad and upset! The money I sent was for her to travel to me and I am still hopeful she might show up? Yes I have had fun in just talking with her and that could be seen as a type of payment I guess? I am just still hoping that she will show up as I really do think that from the e-mails and phone calls we shared that she is a nice person and has even told me about small items she has purchased with the money I sent, well now I am really starting to feel bad cuz she has just contacted me again and I feel like I maybe jumped the gun a little and well it just makes me feel bad! :(
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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 
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