curiousexplorer
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Joined: 2/1/2007 Status: offline
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"I am a gambler, actually I am a blackjack dealer in real life " If you are a dealer, then you should know about gambling, and know if you gamble you'll most likely loose. "Let me ask people, if he had sent her some money to "help" her then in the course of talking on the phone he began to show traits she found worrisome or odd, and she lost interest, is she a scammer? When a vanilla guy takes a lady out on a few dates or buys her a gift and then she loses interest, is she now a "scammer" unless she returns the various things he bought her? Or is a scammer a woman that says "Pay me $100 and I will show up to your door naked" and then vanishes? " Going on a few dates requires a lot more effort than typing a few (or a few hundred) internet messages. No one should be taking money until they are interested, or unless they are a prostitute selling a service. "While her behavior may have been QUESTIONABLE she maintained an ongoing flirtatious and/or romantic exchange with him, over a period of time when he paid her some money. He WAS getting something out of it." He was getting scammed, and the scam doesn't work unless the scammer keeps up the act. Simply saying "give me money" is unlikely to work. "however, if she was just accepting the gifts and he was willingly giving them as part of the courting process AND he was happy with what he was getting *in return* then there's no harm, no foul if she did just lose interest. Her method lacks tact, but that's not a trait specific to scammers." If she turns up, then he is happy with what he gets in return, if she doesn't show up, she is a scammer. Not just tactless, but an outright scammer. And from your post, I would recommend no one send you money. "I have given money, toys and gifts to subs I was courting, full well knowing probably 1/2 of them would take the gifts and run - it's a calculated, willing risk I am happy to make. " Did they ask for the gifts? Did they tell you little stories outlining a need for the gifts? Or did you just send them? The OP situation seems to be she fished for the money, not that it was just sent on a whim as a gift. "Yes I have had fun in just talking with her and that could be seen as a type of payment I guess? " Don't get sucked in by the justifications from scammer groupies and wannabes. If you didn't have fun to some degree, you would never have sent any money. Scammers can't just say send me money, they need to play you. "I'm impressed by women who can scam money from men. " Then you are very easily impressed, and a scumbag. Go to any nightclub and you will see women scamming men out of their money. As for being a scumbag, well just about anyone can be a scammer, the hard part is not the scam, but living with yourself after. Only scumbags can do it, or be impressed by it. "I'm more unimpressed by the level (lack) of intelligence of people who happily agree to be scammed." You must really be impressed by rapists and pedophiles, as they prey on the weak too. There are varying intelligence levels in society, just like variations in strength. Scammers prey on the weak the same way rapists, pedophiles and other criminals do. You are impressed by typical predator behaviour, and unimpressed by the existence of prey. There is also nothing in your posts to suggest you are intelligent enough to be beyond the role of prey. "And if you say that those who are getting scammed are unintelligent, what exactly do you see to be the accomplishment of the scammer that draws your admiration? " Nicely done Sea. "I understand that some folks have disdain for her behavior. Is there a similar disdain for his? I see this less as a nice guy being taken and more as a fool and his money are quickly parted. He's not a victim. He's a participant. To put this all on her is nonsense. " Let's shift the focus to wife beaters, will you call the wives participants instead of victims? If he is a fool, then he is still a victim and was selected from the herd because of his weakness of being a fool. He is just as much a participant as a zebra is a guest at the lions dinner. He should have known better, but there is no way possible to make his actions as disdainful as hers.
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