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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 6:39:22 AM   
KatyLied


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The money I sent was for her to travel to me and I am still hopeful she might show up?


Why don't you have her pay for the trip and offer to reimburse her when she arrives?  Or purchase her a non-refundable ticket?  There are ways around this that can work if indeed she is sincere and wants to meet you.  This may simply be the case of her finding a mark and going back repeatedly for cash.  It's good work if you can get it.  I'm impressed by women who can scam money from men.


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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 7:09:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
It's good work if you can get it.  I'm impressed by women who can scam money from men.


While there is room to recognize that deception might require some intelligence, the ethics of scamming leave me unimpressed. Scams vary in their complexity which requires a corresponding range of intelligence. The information conveyed to me is not that the person is of above average intelligence but of below average conscience.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 7:20:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Az I tried that and ended up sending the whole monopoly board. Boy was I ever taken in.

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 7:27:44 AM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		I'm more unimpressed by the level (lack) of intelligence of people who happily agree to be scammed.  

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 8:17:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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The money I sent was for her to travel to me and I am still hopeful she might show up?


Why don't you have her pay for the trip and offer to reimburse her when she arrives?  Or purchase her a non-refundable ticket?  There are ways around this that can work if indeed she is sincere and wants to meet you.  This may simply be the case of her finding a mark and going back repeatedly for cash.  It's good work if you can get it.  I'm impressed by women who can scam money from men.

Offered to buy her a bus ticket and even priced it out, she wanted her car with her, can't blame here there I guess? She was also afraid to leave it there because she was afraid her stereo might get ripped off. Why would you be impressed by anyone who could scam money from anyone!!!???

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 8:22:43 AM   
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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 8:25:55 AM   
BigBaby


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I'm more unimpressed by the level (lack) of intelligence of people who happily agree to be scammed.  
  I guess you have never wanted something as bad as the people who get scammed or you are just so much smarter than us?  I don't think anyone happily agrees to be scammed, we take risks sometimes to achieve a desired goal which leaves us subject to such situations...I am sure you have been scammed to some extent in your lifetime and oh yes..you can tell us the truth about it! baby jerry 

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 8:37:20 AM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		I guess I am smarter.  I do not part with my money easily.  I work hard for it and I am careful with my spending.  I also will not "pay to play".

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 9:38:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good Morning Baby Jerry!  I've never joined in on this forum...until today!  I am a Pro-Dom who aquired two slaves, about two years ago, because of the same type...almost to the "T"...of online scams!  I just couldn't take watching these two, keep hoping and wishing, believing all if the lies!  I finally had to put a stop to it...it was breaking my heart that someone could be so heartless!
All the babies, that I have had sessions with, have such huge hearts and just want to be loved!  My heart goes out to you!
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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 6:59:11 PM   
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Live and learn, decent people cannot be bought.

Good words.I've never asked for a dollar from a female.personally i don't know of many Dominants that do.i hear of it from time to time but i wonder about the person that asks for it.


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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 11:05:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
I'm more unimpressed by the level (lack) of intelligence of people who happily agree to be scammed.  


I give no glory to winning by cheating.

Sometimes those who are scammed are not scammed because they are unintelligent, but because they are kindhearted and trusting, or are chasing hope. And if you say that those who are getting scammed are unintelligent, what exactly do you see to be the accomplishment of the scammer that draws your admiration?

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/9/2008 11:20:59 PM   
khem


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Status: offline 		I'm really sorry you had a bad experience.  I agree that you should not have sent any money, but that's a learning experience.  In my opinion, if someone does not have the gas money to come meet me (assuming they are within 300 miles or so), they've got much more important things to take care of than looking for a top.  I think men tend to assume that they are going to foot the bill for all activities with a Domme (top, mommy, whatever), but it's really not always the case.  I feel like sometimes these bad apples give the legit ones a bad name.  I've gotten more than one spazzed out email detailing how someone will not pay me as a reply to me saying something along the lines of "hello, would you like chat sometime or exchange emails." 

We're not all after your money   I would actually have myself a kept man or stay at home slave if I thought I could afford one  

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/10/2008 12:13:22 PM   
BigBaby


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Status: offline 		  I feel priveledged that my post is the first you have replied to yet at the same time feel kinda bad that it took this type of situation to arouse your interests in participating lol.  You must be a very special person to have taken in two subs like that. Yes you are right about adult babies being very sweet caring people and know this to bet true about myself for sure, I cry easily and am very sensative and somewhat child-like which I believe is a common trait amongst most adult babies....I believe this is what makes AB's special people yet leaves us vulnerable at the same time? Thank you for your first post Linda, hopefull we can hear more from you and that would be a perfect example of something good coming out of a bad situation! your friend, baby jerry

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/10/2008 6:45:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
It's good work if you can get it.  I'm impressed by women who can scam money from men.



Well, that certainly says a lot about your character.

And frankly, it's a chump con, that's why it's mostly the third world and the occasional bitter hobbyist doing it now. The real money is in "investment" scams- stocks, real estate, commodities... Why beg and scrape for a few bills to "fly to see you" or "take care of my sick momma" when there are fake oil deposits that can reap tens of millions in profits "if we just had forty grand to keep us afloat for one more week"? With smarts and work ethic, they could be jet-setting in designer clothes and smooth-talking retired dentists over prime rib... instead they're sitting behind a computer, surfing the web for grainy snatch photos to forward along to to guys who are so starved for human contact that they're practically paying a wage just for the attention. There's nothing about it that deserves anything other than shame.


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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/10/2008 7:23:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BigBaby

I feel priveledged that my post is the first you have replied to yet at the same time feel kinda bad that it took this type of situation to arouse your interests in participating lol.  You must be a very special person to have taken in two subs like that. Yes you are right about adult babies being very sweet caring people and know this to bet true about myself for sure, I cry easily and am very sensative and somewhat child-like which I believe is a common trait amongst most adult babies....I believe this is what makes AB's special people yet leaves us vulnerable at the same time? Thank you for your first post Linda, hopefull we can hear more from you and that would be a perfect example of something good coming out of a bad situation! your friend, baby jerry


You are a sweet and loving person.
You may not want to fall prey to another so soon.
Please be careful with your trust.


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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/10/2008 7:30:37 PM   
KatyLied


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I give no glory to winning by cheating.


The women are filling a need (indeed, a kink that is known as financial domination) that some men have.  They aren't cheating.  They are requesting money, they are receiving it.  If ever there was a situation that calls for blaming the victim, it is the case of people sending money to scammers.  There are warnings all over this site about it. 


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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/10/2008 7:33:25 PM   
Evility


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Status: offline 		Don't feel so bad about it. You are not the first person to be taken like this and you won't be the last. Live and learn.

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/10/2008 7:43:04 PM   
MsLemon


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Status: offline 		I only made it through the first page of replies but I wanted to share some info:

www.aby.com
www.the-ghidrah.com

Both are sites which are AB/DL friendly and the one with the ghidrah is run by 3 AB friends of mine who I know are amazing resources to help you find people that are into the same kink/fetish as you in your area.

Remember that its one thing to help out a friend but wait till that friend has proven themselves in person to actually be someone worth helping before you open up your finances.  Lesson leaned baby boy but you already know that.

Good luck in your search :)

Ms Lemon / Auntie to the ageplayers in the DC area :)

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/10/2008 9:02:56 PM   
undergroundsea


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
The women are filling a need (indeed, a kink that is known as financial domination) that some men have. 


A woman who asks a man for money to travel to him and then keeps the money is not engaging in financial domination but in a scam. This scenario is the context for this thread.

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If ever there was a situation that calls for blaming the victim, it is the case of people sending money to scammers.  There are warnings all over this site about it.


While I see your point about the question of personal responsibility when one is scammed, I lay greater culpability with the scammer. Your prior post seemed to celebrate such behavior (scamming), which is what prompted my comments to you.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: She arrives tonight......scammed! - 6/10/2008 9:04:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
The women are filling a need (indeed, a kink that is known as financial domination) that some men have. 


A woman who asks a man for money to travel to him and then keeps the money is not engaging in financial domination but in a scam. This scenario is the context for this thread. Your prior post seemed to celebrate such behavior, which is what prompted my comments.

Cheers,

Sea


Good point. Females who do the "Financial Domination" thing generally tell the submissives up front.


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