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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/19/2009 10:35:35 AM   
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If a man sucks another mans cock they are simply no longer heterosexual by any definition. If you ask me forced bi is most of the time just an excuse for a male to experiment and blame any social guilt he may feel on someone else.


If you are bi, that means your are sexually attracted to both sexes. If my Mistress orders me to suck a guys dick, that does not mean I am going to suddenly be attracted to men. It just means I did what she wanted me to do. My last Mistress made me eat peas. I hated them before she made me eat them and I still hated them after she made me eat them. Nothing changed.

I did a scene a couple of years ago with a Domme who loved to watch lesbians being fucked by men. She said she enjoyed it because it was something she knew they would never do on their own and she loved the control. She had me lay face down between her legs while her sub fucked me. The whole time I watched her and fantasized that Xena was behind me with a strap on. It was truly awesome. Does this mean I am now attracted to men? I don't think so, but if you want to think that, go right ahead.

 

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/19/2009 11:49:41 AM   
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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/19/2009 12:04:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have watched a male suck another male's cock in person and it was immensely hot. 
That same male's compulsion for male cum became really bothersome when I realized it was an honest-to-god fetish (Not as that term is used in commpn parlance but via proper psychological definition). 
Anyway, if a man is sucking another man's cock or doing anything sexual with him, he's NOT hetero-, he's bi- (Or gay if he only has sexual relations with males) and I find it immensely irritating that so many people take such flagrant liberties with terminology.  Man sucking another man's cock = potentially hot but absolutely not straight. 
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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/19/2009 12:29:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DavanKael

I have watched a male suck another male's cock in person and it was immensely hot. 
That same male's compulsion for male cum became really bothersome when I realized it was an honest-to-god fetish (Not as that term is used in commpn parlance but via proper psychological definition). 
Anyway, if a man is sucking another man's cock or doing anything sexual with him, he's NOT hetero-, he's bi- (Or gay if he only has sexual relations with males) and I find it immensely irritating that so many people take such flagrant liberties with terminology.  Man sucking another man's cock = potentially hot but absolutely not straight. 
Davan


So your saying sexual attraction has nothing to do with your sexual orientation? That makes as much sense as the christians who tell me I am not gay anymore, because I don't have a girlfriend right now and therefore are not having "gay" sex today.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/19/2009 12:30:41 PM   
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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/19/2009 12:44:09 PM   
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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/19/2009 12:48:00 PM   
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I have watched a male suck another male's cock in person and it was immensely hot. 
That same male's compulsion for male cum became really bothersome when I realized it was an honest-to-god fetish (Not as that term is used in commpn parlance but via proper psychological definition). 
Anyway, if a man is sucking another man's cock or doing anything sexual with him, he's NOT hetero-, he's bi- (Or gay if he only has sexual relations with males) and I find it immensely irritating that so many people take such flagrant liberties with terminology.  Man sucking another man's cock = potentially hot but absolutely not straight. 
Davan


So your saying sexual attraction has nothing to do with your sexual orientation? That makes as much sense as the christians who tell me I am not gay anymore, because I don't have a girlfriend right now and therefore are not having "gay" sex today.


Sure, sexual attraction has something to do with it as does sexual behavior. 
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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 7:45:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		So if a straight man sucks a dick, but isn't sexually attracted to men, he is still straight not bi.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 8:08:42 AM   
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Oh, look.  My favorite thread is back again.  It must be My lucky day.


One of my favs too Ms Pact

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 8:12:05 AM   
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So if a straight man sucks a dick, but isn't sexually attracted to men, he is still straight not bi.


I disagree.  I noted attraction and behavior, via his behavior, he is bi.
Why is it so threatening to your orientation that you had sex with a male?  What's so wrong with being bi? 
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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 8:26:22 AM   
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So if a straight man sucks a dick, but isn't sexually attracted to men, he is still straight not bi.


I disagree.  I noted attraction and behavior, via his behavior, he is bi.
Why is it so threatening to your orientation that you had sex with a male?  What's so wrong with being bi? 
Davan


There is nothing wrong with being bi and I am not threated. I am merely pointing out that unless a man is sexually attracted to another man, he is straight. Doing the act does not make you attracted to it, it just means you are willing to do it.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 9:00:15 AM   
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So if a straight man sucks a dick, but isn't sexually attracted to men, he is still straight not bi.


I disagree.  I noted attraction and behavior, via his behavior, he is bi.
Why is it so threatening to your orientation that you had sex with a male?  What's so wrong with being bi? 
Davan


There is nothing wrong with being bi and I am not threated. I am merely pointing out that unless a man is sexually attracted to another man, he is straight. Doing the act does not make you attracted to it, it just means you are willing to do it.


I feel certain that from the inception of the statement of our opinions, we have each understood that we disagree.  I continue to do so. 
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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 9:04:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think perhaps if the straight male is doing it only to please a Mistress and that is why he is doing it and is in no way sexually stimulated by it and in no way enjoying it than i suppose he is still straight. However, most straight men even if submissive will have as a hard limit sucking a mans cock.



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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 9:05:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think somewhere in the long course of this thread, I've said this before.  I don't believe that an act changes a person's orientation.  It just makes them really hot.  LOL.

It's funny the way some folks react to bisexuality in males.  I'll never understand it.

A few years back, I knew a gal who was openly bisexual who refused to even date any male who was bisexual.  I found that to be the epitome of hypocrisies.




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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 9:17:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		A few years back, I knew a gal who was openly bisexual who refused to even date any male who was bisexual.  I found that to be the epitome of hypocrisies.

You get that, though, don't you?  Bisexuality amongst women seems to be far more widely accepted.  Once a bisexual woman I knew opined that while women could happily be bi; a man, if he showed any bi-interest at all, was "really a homosexual waiting to break free".   I wonder what she'd say to a previously happy, self-consciously "entirely gay" man who, later in his partnership, became smitten with a woman?  I've met an example of that, too . . .

Soon this thread's going to get hits equivalent to my telephone number.  When that happens I shall reward myself with a whole packet of cookies.  Oh yes.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 9:19:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree, LadyPact, that it doesn't change a person's orientation, it simply affirms what is. 
As I noted in my initial post on this thread, I think a man sucking a man's cock has serious hotness potential and I haven't ever held it against but rather revered the diversity in partners/boyfriends/etc. (With the exception, as I also noted, of when I was dealing with a boyfriend with a fetish so pervasive that one doctor proposed to hospitalize him in an attempt to arrest his impulsivity/addictive behavior that accompanied the fetish). 
I find offensive the liberties people take with terminology.  As I've stated elsewhere on the boards, I tend to take the Kinsey approach to categorization. 
I also am offended by the double standards that our society has about bi girls versus bi guys.  People disavowing their behaviors and feeding into the shame-based closeting doesn't help this, though. 
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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 9:27:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've said time and time again that the gender bias on the matter of bisexuality is foolish.  It's more the social stigma for males.  If we can accept bisexuality openly for females, it should be just as easy to accept it for males.  It's not like acceptance should be dictated by whether a person has a vagina or a penis. 

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 10:10:40 AM   
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I'm impressed - never before have I seen hair-splitting taken to such an art form. Let's REALLY muddy the waters.
 
If the heterosexual suckER does so at the command of his Mistress but there is no happy ending for the suckEE, what is it considered (other than REALLY ungratifying for the suckEE)? Is it still part of the whole "if they are straight and they suck, they are kinda bi? maybe gay?". Will it tilt the universe on its axis if there IS a happy ending for the suckee?
 
I'm not personally conflicted about the issue but its really interesting to watch this topic being chased across 17 pages !

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 10:32:12 AM   
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I'm impressed - never before have I seen hair-splitting taken to such an art form. Let's REALLY muddy the waters.
If the heterosexual suckER does so at the command of his Mistress but there is no happy ending for the suckEE, what is it considered (other than REALLY ungratifying for the suckEE)? Is it still part of the whole "if they are straight and they suck, they are kinda bi? maybe gay?". Will it tilt the universe on its axis if there IS a happy ending for the suckee?
I'm not personally conflicted about the issue but its really interesting to watch this topic being chased across 17 pages !


MsFlutter,
I'll bite and answer your question. 
First, I'd like to ask your opinion as you stated you aren't conflicted but didn't state your opinion. 
I, too, am not conflicted.  Your scenario, in my consistent definitions of such things, would involve bi-guys.  'Happy ending' doesn't, via my definition, make or break the orientational definitions. 
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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/20/2009 10:41:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		S only women and gay men are good enough to be c**ksuckers? So now i have to feel sorry for straight men? And how does not enjoying it make a straight man any different from anyone else that gets bored while sucking. Come on admit it, it has happened to you too. Or you used your mouth because your hand was tired or you didnt want to damage your manicure.

Frankly i just feel sort of sorry for the unfulfilled suckER AND suckEE since one failed to enjoy time with his mistress and did a bad job and the other gets to have a stomach ache from blue balls and know that his play partner wasn't very good and didn't have a good time. EWWW. I guess to me there is humiliation and then there is just really bad sex.


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