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lronitulstahp -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 5:59:13 PM)

let's have a nickname witch hunt...All you Lawrences hiding out as Larry's....all you Thomases pretending to be Tom's...all you Peggies...bitch! We know your name is Margaret....in other words, not sure of the relavancy of this.  Lots of people go by nicknames given since childhood...but  other than that, i get your point[;)]




Smith117 -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:01:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

let's have a nickname witch hunt...All you Lawrences hiding out as Larry's....all you Thomases pretending to be Tom's...all you Peggies...bitch! We know your name is Margaret....in other words, not sure of the relavancy of this.  Lots of people go by nicknames given since childhood...but  other than that, i get your point[;)]


None of the Larry's or Peggies try and sue a TV network for using their name that isn't even their name.




TheHeretic -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:01:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aynne

why does it have to be one versus the other?



     Because that was how Spike decided to get his name in the papers.  Both have done great films, both have done crap, but Lee isn't, and never will be, the artist Eastwood is. 




Aynne -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:02:35 PM)

you have seen all 35? And Smith, I know you are aware that most hollywood actors use names they were not originally born with don't you? Spike was nicknamed that since childhood, wayyyyy before he came to hollywood. He should not use his lifelong nickname why?     


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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: Aynne

DA, Spike Lee is an Oscar winning graduate of Morehouse College as well as having a Master's in Fine Arts from NYU. Granted, not everyone "gets" Spike Lee's relevant social films and prefer things like ohhhh "Men in Black" or other mass produced hollywood brain candy, but he is an avant garde activist filmmaker and artist. He is not a gangster rapper.  Hey I like Clint too, why does it have to be one versus the other? There is certainly enough talent and reputation there to go around. 



"Shelton" is a loud-mouth blowhard whose movies suck horribly and only serve to promote the same kind of racial tension he's supposed to be 'against.'

And his name isn't spike, it's shelton. He can't even be historically accurate with his own name, much less his movies.





Smith117 -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:05:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aynne
you have seen all 35? And Smith, I know you are aware that most hollywood actors use names they were not originally born with don't you? Spike was nicknamed that since childhood, wayyyyy before he came to hollywood. He should not use his lifelong nickname why?    


I'll say it another way, a "nickname" is not grounds for a lawsuit. It 'can' however be a way for him to draw more attention to himself and his lame movies.




lronitulstahp -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:11:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

let's have a nickname witch hunt...All you Lawrences hiding out as Larry's....all you Thomases pretending to be Tom's...all you Peggies...bitch! We know your name is Margaret....in other words, not sure of the relavancy of this.  Lots of people go by nicknames given since childhood...but  other than that, i get your point[;)]


None of the Larry's or Peggies try and sue a TV network for using their name that isn't even their name.

missed post 24...gotcha....




celticlord2112 -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:24:09 PM)

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Spike Lee is an Oscar winning graduate of Morehouse College as well as having a Master's in Fine Arts from NYU.

As a director, Spike Lee has never even been nominated for the Academy Award.  Do The Right Thing was nominated for Best Original Screenplay in 1989, but lost to Dead Poets Society.  None of his pictures have ever been nominated for Best Picture.





Aynne -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:25:49 PM)

well Smith ( is that your real name...[;)]) I thought that was silly too, but I still think his movies are outstanding. I was 19 or so when I first saw "Do the right thing" and I loved it then, and still think it has a very cool way of getting a point across.  For me as a young person he was someone that really made me think about social issues, racism and cultural issues that no other filmmaker for me ever had. Isn't that what film making is about making you think sometimes? I know it is the custom to sit and blindly watch some blockbuster mass produced garbage with a neat and tidy ending, but sometimes I want to think about a movie for a long time after it is over. His movies did that for me, as well as being entertaining and thought provoking. 




JohnWarren -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:28:23 PM)

In his Axis of Time series (Weapons of Choice, Designated Targets and Final Impact) John Birmingham explores what it would be like if a carrier task force from 2021 was thrown back in time to 1942.  One of the major themes is the instant friction between the relatively color- and gender-blind future fighters compared with the "contemporary forces" of WWII.

What I particularly liked was the hints about the future of our timeline should this be real.  In particular, the command carrier is named for "the most effective and aggressive CIC the US has ever had."

(I'll space down for a spoiler alert)







The USS Hilary Clinton




Aynne -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:28:52 PM)

 
I thought he won an Oscar, but it was an emmy. He has been nominated though celticlord.

From Wiki:
Shelton Jackson "Spike" Lee (born March 20, 1957) is an Emmy Award-winning and Academy Award-nominated American film director, producer, writer, and actor, noted for his films dealing with controversial social and political issues. He also teaches film at New York University and Columbia University. His production company, 40 Acres & A Mule Filmworks, has produced over 35 films since 1983.



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Spike Lee is an Oscar winning graduate of Morehouse College as well as having a Master's in Fine Arts from NYU.

As a director, Spike Lee has never even been nominated for the Academy Award.  Do The Right Thing was nominated for Best Original Screenplay in 1989, but lost to Dead Poets Society.  None of his pictures have ever been nominated for Best Picture.






celticlord2112 -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:32:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aynne


I thought he won an Oscar, but it was an emmy. He has been nominated though celticlord.

From Wiki:
Shelton Jackson "Spike" Lee (born March 20, 1957) is an Emmy Award-winning and Academy Award-nominated American film director, producer, writer, and actor, noted for his films dealing with controversial social and political issues. He also teaches film at New York University and Columbia University. His production company, 40 Acres & A Mule Filmworks, has produced over 35 films since 1983.



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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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Spike Lee is an Oscar winning graduate of Morehouse College as well as having a Master's in Fine Arts from NYU.

As a director, Spike Lee has never even been nominated for the Academy Award.  Do The Right Thing was nominated for Best Original Screenplay in 1989, but lost to Dead Poets Society.  None of his pictures have ever been nominated for Best Picture.




Only for his screenplay Do The Right Thing, as I mentioned.




Smith117 -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:34:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aynne
well Smith ( is that your real name...[;)])


Nope, but then I'm not suing people named Smith for copyright infringement either.

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ORIGINAL: Aynne
I was 19 or so when I first saw "Do the right thing" and I loved it then, and still think it has a very cool way of getting a point across.  For me as a young person he was someone that really made me think about social issues, racism and cultural issues that no other filmmaker for me ever had. Isn't that what film making is about making you think sometimes? I know it is the custom to sit and blindly watch some blockbuster mass produced garbage with a neat and tidy ending, but sometimes I want to think about a movie for a long time after it is over. His movies did that for me, as well as being entertaining and thought provoking. 


I think most of his movies are a bit tired and worn-out and based on his concept of the world. Aside from of his most recent movies,  I hardly recall any white people in his movies much at all. His early ones, with the exception of Jungle Fever (for obvious reasons) seemed utterly devoid of whites. Yet he has the balls to criticize someone else's movie when it's been based off of history, where as his were not.




Aynne -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:36:46 PM)

some-antics...semantics...[8|]  I am headed over to the impeachment thread, you all can stay here and hate on "shelton" or "spike" or whatever you want to call the guy. I am not surprised by the reaction either way.   




Smith117 -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:37:09 PM)

To further support the assertion that shelton lee is a media whore......as I've just discovered, he's got a new movie coming up that's about (gasp) an all-black military regiment.

The timing of this little tantrum with Clint Eastwood is just.....downright eerie!




kittinSol -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:38:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Only for his screenplay Do The Right Thing, as I mentioned.



"Only"? I think it's pretty good to get nominated at all. I mean, how many Star Trek movies got there? *Shrug* - I like Spike Lee's films. Maybe the guy's a bit of an attention seeker, but since when was Hollywood full of shy, retiring types? So what if he's drumming for some controversy? That's how the industry works. Got to have your name out there, and there is no such thing as bad publicity. It would be naive to think otherwise.




Aynne -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:40:40 PM)

 
Smith you are 29, and a movie that came out when you were 9 is tired and worn out? Had you seen a lot of films based on race issues by the 5th grade? Jaded.....tsk tsk.

Edited to add: Kittin is here, now will you be nice Smith?[;)]  okay, just teasing you twooooooo....


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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: Aynne
well Smith ( is that your real name...[;)])


Nope, but then I'm not suing people named Smith for copyright infringement either.

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ORIGINAL: Aynne
I was 19 or so when I first saw "Do the right thing" and I loved it then, and still think it has a very cool way of getting a point across.  For me as a young person he was someone that really made me think about social issues, racism and cultural issues that no other filmmaker for me ever had. Isn't that what film making is about making you think sometimes? I know it is the custom to sit and blindly watch some blockbuster mass produced garbage with a neat and tidy ending, but sometimes I want to think about a movie for a long time after it is over. His movies did that for me, as well as being entertaining and thought provoking. 


I think most of his movies are a bit tired and worn-out and based on his concept of the world. Aside from of his most recent movies,  I hardly recall any white people in his movies much at all. His early ones, with the exception of Jungle Fever (for obvious reasons) seemed utterly devoid of whites. Yet he has the balls to criticize someone else's movie when it's been based off of history, where as his were not.





Level -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:41:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

To further support the assertion that shelton lee is a media whore......as I've just discovered, he's got a new movie coming up that's about (gasp) an all-black military regiment.

The timing of this little tantrum with Clint Eastwood is just.....downright eerie!



What a stunning coincidence.....[:D]




Alumbrado -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:43:06 PM)

I'm sure it never crossed his mind.[;)]




celticlord2112 -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:47:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Only for his screenplay Do The Right Thing, as I mentioned.



"Only"? I think it's pretty good to get nominated at all. I mean, how many Star Trek movies got there? *Shrug* - I like Spike Lee's films. Maybe the guy's a bit of an attention seeker, but since when was Hollywood full of shy, retiring types? So what if he's drumming for some controversy? That's how the industry works. Got to have your name out there, and there is no such thing as bad publicity. It would be naive to think otherwise.


It is an accomplishment. 

It is also an accomplishment to win Oscars for Best Picture and Best Director.  Clint Eastwood has done both.

Spike Lee is a good director.  Clint Eastwood is a great director.




Aynne -> RE: "Shut yer face, Spike!" (6/10/2008 6:50:28 PM)

do you ever add "in my opinion" or "to me" to any of your statements or do you always speak in absolutes?

Spike Lee is a great director. Clint Eastwood is a good director who gets a lot of accolades due to name recognition and longevity.

See how annoying that is? yes I know, I am leaving...[:-]




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