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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 4:40:04 AM   
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LMFAO So right firm ... See this is the thing of translation from female. If I tell a woman In a bar "So how about a blowjob" that means "Would you suck my dick?" but some women hear it as "I really like you! I think you would complete my life. Will you come redecorate my house? How soon can you start moving stuff in? How many children shall we have? What do you think of Tanner for a boy and JordanLee for a girl? Would you like copies of my credit cards? Whats your ring size?Do you like "Up Where We belong" how would that be for our first dance? Where shall we honeymoon....."


If a man in  a bar said,"how about a blowjob", I would be thinking and overanalyzing.

Should I slap him across the face or throw my drink at him? Nah, good waste of liquor.Should I knee him in the groin or just walk away? Should I find a big burly guy to make puppydog eyes at to kick the shit out of him and defend my honor? Nah then that guy would expect a BJ. What would the trajectory be and how could I best accomodate my desire to put a few ring prints on his face,

yes, the wheels would be spinning and turning. Who knows what will happen to the poor sucker. I do pity the fool who knows nothing about women and how best to achieve the desire of said blowjob. yes, yes, the problem with men is their simple brain and how they think that woman respond to the same stimuli as men.

If he was smart and saw the evil glint in my eye. he would run if he new what was good for him.....


Yep and I have had drinks thrown in my face, and I have been slapped...  Then someone better looking than the one who turned me down usually comes over because the female curiosity just causes them to want to know what the bad boy could have possibly have said to elicit that reaction.

However surprising this may seem, more often than not in the right kind of bar - that question results in a woman sucking you off in a mens room stall, or in your car... And Lucious, not to offend, but in my case in at least 9 occassions those who applied the chapstick and eagerly dove in were teachers... A substantial number of women appreciate the honesty and directness. They came to the bar looking for dick, and Im offering a slab of it and what can I say, chicks dig confidence.

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 5:04:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I personally appreciate someone that is honest and direct about what they want or are looking for. If given the right circumstance and that's what I were interested in and a guy says "how about a blowjob", I'd reply " are you sure you can handle this", "right here at the bar or should we go to the parking lot?"
If a woman is in a bar advertising, then it's a mans duty to shop. It's really very simple in the traditional sense of picking people up in bars! Heck, I used to have a t-shirt that read "I f**k on the first date", just to cut to the chase.

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 5:12:47 AM   
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I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I personally appreciate someone that is honest and direct about what they want or are looking for. If given the right circumstance and that's what I were interested in and a guy says "how about a blowjob", I'd reply " are you sure you can handle this", "right here at the bar or should we go to the parking lot?"
If a woman is in a bar advertising, then it's a mans duty to shop. It's really very simple in the traditional sense of picking people up in bars! Heck, I used to have a t-shirt that read "I f**k on the first date", just to cut to the chase.


MMistress not at all unpopular with me... Between the flowing blonde locks, the radiant smile, the denim skirt and those sexy legs that go from your ass all the way to the floor - you would definitely catch my eye. (And to answer your questions in advance, yep and I can provide references to prove it. The parking lot would be better - but I will need your panties to hang on the bar wall as proof.  I LOVE that T-shirt? If you find yourself in the Houston Area - how about a date?

Seriously though, I appreciate your honesty and candor in saying how you appreciate honesty and candor. No sense uh, beating around the bush....

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 5:46:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		M, I guess the fact that I've never been of the "eyecandy" variety tends to taint my perspective.  The only time I've had that sort of direct approach used on me (by guys that didn't already Know me) was towards closing time if the guy had been unsucessful throughout the night.  Then again, I'm usually smart enough not to look for anything other than quick fucks when it comes to bars - because I learned by the time I was 23 that such was not the place to find anything other than that.  My last nilla ex was a case in point - my original intention was to view him as a fuckbuddy.  He persued me, looking for a relationship, and I forgot my first rule of thumb when "dating" someone from a bar - if what brings you together is alcohol, it's a bad idea to expect it not to cause problems.  (We were on a bar pool league team together - I shoulda known better than to actually Date him from that fact alone.)  Of course, in his own twisted way, he was fairly direct as well - he told me the first time we went out together outside of the weekly pool tourney that he was more interested in my g/f that got me interested in the team than in me, but figured he couldn't "afford" her.
 
It's not that I find directness somehow objectionable.  I don't.  I'd rather someone be blunt - whether it's with pick up attempts or with rejection.  It's simply that I so rarely see directness actually Used by anyone that's not 3 sheets to the wind...

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 6:04:11 AM   
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It's not that I find directness somehow objectionable.  I don't.  I'd rather someone be blunt - whether it's with pick up attempts or with rejection.  It's simply that I so rarely see directness actually Used by anyone that's not 3 sheets to the wind...


Oh by the time I get that direct Ive usually got enough Jerimiah Weed in me to kill a horse LOL But you know youre a pilot yourself... If some chippiee hauls her ass off to a bar filled with fighter pilots, NASA zoomies, and heavy metal boys from CAL, SWA, and EJ so that they can watch us slamming down flaming shots of weed while banging our fists on the bar screaming FOX TWO!,  singing raunchy pilot songs and the band is doing Dos Gringos covers, and there are 1000+ pairs of panties stapled to the wall - shes either retarded or is looking for some dick attatched to a set of wings. We aint talking dainty piano bars with white zinfadel sipping yuppies...

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 6:09:57 AM   
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It's not that I find directness somehow objectionable.  I don't.  I'd rather someone be blunt - whether it's with pick up attempts or with rejection.  It's simply that I so rarely see directness actually Used by anyone that's not 3 sheets to the wind...


Oh by the time I get that direct Ive usually got enough Jerimiah Weed in me to kill a horse LOL But you know youre a pilot yourself... If some chippiee hauls her ass off to a bar filled with fighter pilots, NASA zoomies, and heavy metal boys from CAL, SWA, and EJ so that they can watch us slamming down flaming shots of weed while banging our fists on the bar screaming FOX TWO!,  singing raunchy pilot songs and the band is doing Dos Gringos covers, and there are 1000+ pairs of panties stapled to the wall - shes either retarded or is looking for some dick attatched to a set of wings. We aint talking dainty piano bars with white zinfadel sipping yuppies...


Oi, there's that whole need to WARN ME when you're gonna make me spew coffee out my nose, damnit!
 
Now that I've quit laughing and have cleaned up the mess on the keyboard (yer gonna owe me a replacement if this keeps up!) I will admit that you make a valid point.  When someone puts themselves into a situation where they Know that's gonna be the outcome - they have no right to bitch if that's the outcome.  How many are going to stick around in that situation, though, if that's NOT what they're looking for?
 
(And we won't even go into just how the male pilots I know tend to raise eyebrows when I can keep up with them while drinking - maybe there's something to the snarky remark my ex made last time he and I spoke after all, when he told me "You're the least Feminine woman I've ever known.")

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 6:30:52 AM   
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M, I guess the fact that I've never been of the "eyecandy" variety tends to taint my perspective.  The only time I've had that sort of direct approach used on me (by guys that didn't already Know me) was towards closing time if the guy had been unsucessful throughout the night.

It's not that I find directness somehow objectionable.  I don't.  I'd rather someone be blunt - whether it's with pick up attempts or with rejection.  It's simply that I so rarely see directness actually Used by anyone that's not 3 sheets to the wind...


Been there and done that so I can identify with what you are saying. I never was "eyecandy" and always used my sexuality to get what I wanted becuase that's what I needed. Fortunately for me, my directness accomplished my goal and even though I wasn't the "eyecandy" the guys wanted, I was the release that they needed.
My opinion is that men simply appreciate a woman that isn't putting on aires about what she needs or wants and I am living proof that it works and works well.

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 6:45:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		DA, one of my favorite lines used to be "Hi! My name is Rob.  Wanna fu@#?"  It gave a direct no nonsense question with a yes/no atyle answer.  Of course, the no often came with a slap. When that happened I would respond with, "So a blow job in the parking lot is out of the question?"  It actually seemed to work better than the other things I tried.
I only used it in the bars but I had a friens who would say it to any woma who caught his eye anywjere.  He was the goofiest looking little shit but he got laid alot.

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 7:06:12 AM   
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M, I guess the fact that I've never been of the "eyecandy" variety tends to taint my perspective.  The only time I've had that sort of direct approach used on me (by guys that didn't already Know me) was towards closing time if the guy had been unsucessful throughout the night.

It's not that I find directness somehow objectionable.  I don't.  I'd rather someone be blunt - whether it's with pick up attempts or with rejection.  It's simply that I so rarely see directness actually Used by anyone that's not 3 sheets to the wind...


Been there and done that so I can identify with what you are saying. I never was "eyecandy" and always used my sexuality to get what I wanted becuase that's what I needed. Fortunately for me, my directness accomplished my goal and even though I wasn't the "eyecandy" the guys wanted, I was the release that they needed.
My opinion is that men simply appreciate a woman that isn't putting on aires about what she needs or wants and I am living proof that it works and works well.


Women of the world, "eyecandy" or not, take note #2.

Women, bless their hearts, can be attractive in many ways. Directness, sense of humor and not being coy about what they want/don't want are qualities highly prized by men. It is an aphrodesiac in itself.To meet a woman who knows what she wants and says so without playing ring-around-the rosy is refreshing and stimulating and one reason that I enjoy hanging out at CM. Also, I think that many women who see themselves as not eyecandy worthy, simply need to learn and utilize the many tools that are available to them to make the most of what they do have, be it make-up or clothing.

DA and Firm, both of  whom  I rarely agree with on other topics, are tossing nuggets of wisdom in this thread.  Also, imo, MMistress has made a significant contribution, ty, MM.


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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 7:13:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to admit that one of the hottest things my wife ever said to me was on our first date.  She looked at me and said, "So.  Shall we have sex now and get the tension out of the way?"
I have loved her ever since.

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 7:16:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		a dear friend of mine gave this simple answer for how to keep a man happy, and while it is simplistic, i think it is true in so many ways.

keep a mans belly full and his balls empty.....he will be content.

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 7:19:21 AM   
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I have loved her ever since.



Not wanting to come across as a sappy sentimentalist, but that word there has been sorely missing from the thread so far :-).

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 7:23:19 AM   
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I have loved her ever since.



Not wanting to come across as a sappy sentimentalist, but that word there has been sorely missing from the thread so far :-).

Wow.  Kitten makes a great point.  Love has been sorely missing from this topic.  If you're looking for more than a one night stand or a fuckbuddy, love has to be there.  Otherwise, you'll get tired of each other and end up in the cheating threads.

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 7:42:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Love is something that I don't even begin to Contemplate these days, Irish.  For a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that I've never believed in things like "love at first sight".  Which means that anything that deep takes Time - usually significant amounts of it.
 
Perhaps it's Jaded, but I honestly feel that many people mistakenly call the responce "love" when what they actually Feel is a combination of budding friendship and Lust.  While it's possible for the second to Become the first - the two are Not initally the same thing.   When so many folks mistake one for the other, it's hard to keep things on an even track long enough for Actual love to grow.  I know a lot of guys that I consider friends, or have casual friendships with - many of whom there's a dose of Lust for as well (some of them know, some of them don't lol) - but "love" any of them?  No, not in the romanticistic sense that you and kittin are refering to.  And it would probably send most of them into a heart attack from shock, should someone suggest to them that it could become that.  I find it frequently Difficult, as a woman with a very strong personality, to get the guys I know to remember that I AM female instead of "one of the guys."  It's been an issue that I've had difficulties with most of my life.   There's to little in my personal preferences that's stereotypically Female, and to much that is often considered stereotypically Male.  So I guess it's become easier for them to view me as "one of the guys"  than as a "potential girlfriend" because that's simpler than considering that they Can take some women at face value outside of situations where she wears the "I fuck on the first date" tshirt.
 

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 7:45:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Trouble with "love" is that it means different things to different people. It's used too often and too lightly, imo. There was a recent thread on this topic. I think , when appropriate, that commitment and devotion are more universally understood than "love". At least it is for me.

Perhaps speaking of love or commitment or devotion is putting the cart before the horse in the context of the OP.


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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 7:45:37 AM   
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I have loved her ever since.



Not wanting to come across as a sappy sentimentalist, but that word there has been sorely missing from the thread so far :-).

Wow.  Kitten makes a great point.  Love has been sorely missing from this topic.  If you're looking for more than a one night stand or a fuckbuddy, love has to be there.  Otherwise, you'll get tired of each other and end up in the cheating threads.


The OP's question wasn't about love.  It was "What do men want?"

And, as you noticed, it took several pages and a couple of days for the "L" word to come out.  It was indeeded mentioned several times by men (me in post 22, and Irish just above).  But it was a woman who started making a big deal about it.

A woman who feeds a man's stomach, feeds his ego, and fucks him silly by definition is loved and in love. 

Why the big deal out of "love"?

It's a "woman thing".

Firm

PS. Two of the most destested sentences that a woman can say to a man are:
1.  Do you love me?
2.  We need to talk.


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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 7:46:35 AM   
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What is it that males - regardless of orientation towards dom/sub - want out of women?

I love NAKED! I love a person who is comfortable when fully exposed. That doesn't necessarily refer to clothing; although I love that too.

I hate being a mind reader. I have to determine and interpret agenda all day long at work. I require my partner to not require me to use any of those skills in my personal life and relationship. I never experienced a partner capable and confident to be emotionally and mentally 'naked' 24/7 until I met beth. It was such a unique encounter it took me a long time to believe she was real.

The fact that she is a nymphomaniac or that some may consider her 'eye candy' is not important. The fact that I can ask her any question and get the 'naked' truth is amazing! I love her. I don't think it is possible for me NOT to love her. I know that, someday, she'll only be 'eye-candy' through my eyes. I'm confident that she'll always be 'naked'. Although I'm never to be confused with 'eye-candy'; I strive to always be naked for her too.

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 7:48:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Don't want to hijack this wonderful thread, but although love encompasses a huge range of feelings, emotions and attitudes, I'll say that love is recognisable when there's the desire to see the other person is happy before thinking of fulfilling one's personal needs - and I know it's not an exclusive female trait :-) .

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 8:09:58 AM   
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Why the big deal out of "love"?
It's a "woman thing".
 
 
I find the very Concept of "love" to be difficult to comprehend much of the time.  I don't consider it relevant until a looooong way down the line, and even then... my mom once told me something that made a lot of sense and still does in this context.  "I'll take someone that I genuinely LIKE over someone that I Think I LOVE any day of the week.  Being able to Like them means we've got things in common that are more likely to last through the inevitable storm."  (Just more proof that I'm atypical?)

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PS. Two of the most destested sentences that a woman can say to a man are:

1.  Do you love me?
2.  We need to talk.



1.  Either he does or he doesn't - if I'm not astute enough to figure it out without asking, there are larger problems going on.
2.  This one I've said a few times, along with "can I talk to  you about something?" as an alternative.  If the communication is so lacking that I Need to preface a conversation like that - chances are I should simply walk in and tell him "It's over, I don't think it can be fixed any longer.  Time for one of us to leave."

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RE: A question that's been asked millions of times... - 6/12/2008 8:27:04 AM   
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Don't want to hijack this wonderful thread, but although love encompasses a huge range of feelings, emotions and attitudes, I'll say that love is recognisable when there's the desire to see the other person is happy before thinking of fulfilling one's personal needs - and I know it's not an exclusive female trait :-) .


I agree , kittin, it is a great thread and has surprised me how it's evolved.

I'd also say that your partial definition of love applies equaly to devotion, don'tch think ?


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