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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Well, I honestly do not believe we do these things by accident. I believe that we do these things with some level of conciousness. We want people to know whether we can admit it or not.

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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

i have a great need for firm boundaries between myself and my family -- particularly my brother. If he ever found out i was a perv, Gawd only knows what he'd do -- but it'd be a massive clusterf**k.
 
i was with his best friend today and we were having one of those meandering convos, and the subject of writing came up.
 
Without thinking, i told him i write short stories and that they are up on the 'net. 
 
He asked me if he could read them and i said 'Well, humm, yanno, they're erotic stories. In fact they're a little bit extreme, so probably be best i not give you the addy.'
 
He said okay and we continued talking.
 
But now i'm terrified he'll mention to my brother that i have erotic stories on the 'net and s'how my brother will find the site.
 
This is unlikely -- my brother has no real Google-Fu.
 
i'd give a lot to take back what i said -- i spoke without thinking first of the possibility of being 'outted'.
 
pinksugarsub

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ORIGINAL: DominantJenny

I was in an English class in college and we were in a discussion group...I have no idea why, but being bisexual and poly somehow came up and I spontaneously came out as both. It was a really positive experience, though, as the people I was talking with took it seriously and were very curious/polite/nice about it. I still get the warm fuzzies when I remember it.

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber



I just told him, "I long ago decided that I will not be blackmailed, or embarassed by who I am, or something that I find deeply satisfying. We can talk about this later, if you like. But if you continue, here and now, I'll be sure to inform (my sister) that YOU are the one insisting on talking about such intimate, sexual subjects in front of her kids... not me."

It seemed to shut him up.

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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch


i did that once in my sociology of deviance seminar when we were talking about online domination. someone said that it's not possible and i went into this spiel about it is very possible blah blah blah. my prof was impressed and wanted me to write a paper for the ASA grad panels about online deviance but everyone else looked sort of...shocked. i asked one of the kink friendly guys in a cohort ahead of mine if it was because i sounded...a little too aware how to do it and he said yes but most people had thought something was going on anyway.

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i did that once in my sociology of deviance seminar when we were talking about online domination. someone said that it's not possible and i went into this spiel about it is very possible blah blah blah. my prof was impressed and wanted me to write a paper for the ASA grad panels about online deviance but everyone else looked sort of...shocked. i asked one of the kink friendly guys in a cohort ahead of mine if it was because i sounded...a little too aware how to do it and he said yes but most people had thought something was going on anyway.

I guess that's one of the fears we run into with knowing what we do about our lifestyle and being in an academic environment, especially one where people are constantly on the lookout for something innovative. I've sometimes jested that someone should do such and such a study on some deviant lifestyle, and I'll then catch myself once I realize that a professor has actually taken it seriously and then gives the infamous: "We should write a paper together."

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ORIGINAL: came4U

Name one time I called her a moron?

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Talk about making shit up?
Name calling?

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Grow up kid.

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Welcome to the real world of another/someone reading what is said (word for word) or 'post' in a virtual world being absorbed by others and disected.

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The entire paragraph she initially wrote has been disected to death..enought already.  My opinion is that she brought it on herself.  Get over that.  I will not change my mind whatever what 'bad-words' you use towards me..no matter how pathetic.

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When you are mature enough to come to the conversation in it's entirety and not the end as a saviour..then do so. Bawking about and defending someone's crappy situation at the last minute does nothing but leave a sour taste (or lack of taste, in this case).

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Now the topic has reversed back to you you you and her her her...instead of the topic at hand. How about you take your crayons and move along to your busy, busy life of nonsense.

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ORIGINAL: DominantJenny

I was in an English class in college and we were in a discussion group...I have no idea why, but being bisexual and poly somehow came up and I spontaneously came out as both. It was a really positive experience, though, as the people I was talking with took it seriously and were very curious/polite/nice about it. I still get the warm fuzzies when I remember it.

I sometimes wonder if we don't come out enough. One of my best friends while growing up passed away some years ago from AIDS, and he never told me he was sick because I believe he was scared that would mean I'd discover he was previously in a gay relationship. Here I was, living in a bdsm lifestyle, and my friend was scared to come out because he was scared I wouldn't approve.

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ORIGINAL: DominantJenny

I was in an English class in college and we were in a discussion group...I have no idea why, but being bisexual and poly somehow came up and I spontaneously came out as both. It was a really positive experience, though, as the people I was talking with took it seriously and were very curious/polite/nice about it. I still get the warm fuzzies when I remember it.

I sometimes wonder if we don't come out enough. One of my best friends while growing up passed away some years ago from AIDS, and he never told me he was sick because I believe he was scared that would mean I'd discover he was previously in a gay relationship. Here I was, living in a bdsm lifestyle, and my friend was scared to come out because he was scared I wouldn't approve.

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That's so sad D:
My owner's parents are really cool with how people live their lives, something we both know we're going to carry down to any potential offspring. I come from a family who is...modern-traditional (I think that's that's the best way to describe it). I hope to emenate that open air to anyone around me because I think it's such a terrible thing to be afraid to tell your best friend about your life.

In a way I kind of agree with your "I wonder if we don't come out enough" statement. Afterall, we're portrayed as evil sex-fiends, and I don't want that stipulation to continue throughout my life, LOL! Afterall, the gay and lesbian acts were not quiet or gradual, they were a mixture of 'in your face' and 'out of your face', but anything controversial is going to cause some kind of explosion one way or another.

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ORIGINAL: DominantJenny

I was in an English class in college and we were in a discussion group...I have no idea why, but being bisexual and poly somehow came up and I spontaneously came out as both. It was a really positive experience, though, as the people I was talking with took it seriously and were very curious/polite/nice about it. I still get the warm fuzzies when I remember it.

I sometimes wonder if we don't come out enough. One of my best friends while growing up passed away some years ago from AIDS, and he never told me he was sick because I believe he was scared that would mean I'd discover he was previously in a gay relationship. Here I was, living in a bdsm lifestyle, and my friend was scared to come out because he was scared I wouldn't approve.

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That's so sad D:
My owner's parents are really cool with how people live their lives, something we both know we're going to carry down to any potential offspring. I come from a family who is...modern-traditional (I think that's that's the best way to describe it). I hope to emenate that open air to anyone around me because I think it's such a terrible thing to be afraid to tell your best friend about your life.

In a way I kind of agree with your "I wonder if we don't come out enough" statement. Afterall, we're portrayed as evil sex-fiends, and I don't want that stipulation to continue throughout my life, LOL! Afterall, the gay and lesbian acts were not quiet or gradual, they were a mixture of 'in your face' and 'out of your face', but anything controversial is going to cause some kind of explosion one way or another.

i was taught when i was coming out that the problem with waiting for the status quo to accept us is that the status quo won't accept us, and keeping it hidden is the same thing as letting them keep us silent. i still proscribe to that--though i am by no means radical. the thing that people forget is that most of the civil rights movements started out as a massive break from standards of behavior-- the LGBT movement had Stonewall and even Kinsey's works caused a firestorm of controversy when they were published.

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ORIGINAL: DominantJenny

I was in an English class in college and we were in a discussion group...I have no idea why, but being bisexual and poly somehow came up and I spontaneously came out as both. It was a really positive experience, though, as the people I was talking with took it seriously and were very curious/polite/nice about it. I still get the warm fuzzies when I remember it.

I sometimes wonder if we don't come out enough. One of my best friends while growing up passed away some years ago from AIDS, and he never told me he was sick because I believe he was scared that would mean I'd discover he was previously in a gay relationship. Here I was, living in a bdsm lifestyle, and my friend was scared to come out because he was scared I wouldn't approve.

D:
That's so sad D:
My owner's parents are really cool with how people live their lives, something we both know we're going to carry down to any potential offspring. I come from a family who is...modern-traditional (I think that's that's the best way to describe it). I hope to emenate that open air to anyone around me because I think it's such a terrible thing to be afraid to tell your best friend about your life.

In a way I kind of agree with your "I wonder if we don't come out enough" statement. Afterall, we're portrayed as evil sex-fiends, and I don't want that stipulation to continue throughout my life, LOL! Afterall, the gay and lesbian acts were not quiet or gradual, they were a mixture of 'in your face' and 'out of your face', but anything controversial is going to cause some kind of explosion one way or another.

i was taught when i was coming out that the problem with waiting for the status quo to accept us is that the status quo won't accept us, and keeping it hidden is the same thing as letting them keep us silent. i still proscribe to that--though i am by no means radical. the thing that people forget is that most of the civil rights movements started out as a massive break from standards of behavior-- the LGBT movement had Stonewall and even Kinsey's works caused a firestorm of controversy when they were published.

Yeah, I'm no radical either, but I gotta agree with that. If you want to keep quiet, by all means! Keep quiet! For people like me it's like...in order to really know me and get close to me, there are bits and pieces of my life one must accept. My best friend in the universe still doesn't understand my poly-ness, but because I'm open, honest, and very accepting of her, she's willing to confide in me and ask for help with important stuff (she likes to tie up men and had a few worries she wanted me to soothe :P). For that, I'm thankful. Even my younger sister is getting into the lifestyle and it's nice to know that she trusts me enough with her private life to seek help to important questions. I'm out there for my friends, and ever so slightly out there for people who want help and know that I'm at least one source of information they can count on.

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ORIGINAL: came4U

gagging:

There is a reason why youth aren't allowed to drive at 16, vote until age 18 or drink until the age of 21...

they ween into situations and learn to act like adults in order to behave like one...well, some do.

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Whichever it was, your work issue and denial about outing yourself as a *mistake (lol) is your own.

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My daughter has fired better janitors.

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Now, stop being a pest, you and your bf.

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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

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ORIGINAL: DominantJenny

I was in an English class in college and we were in a discussion group...I have no idea why, but being bisexual and poly somehow came up and I spontaneously came out as both. It was a really positive experience, though, as the people I was talking with took it seriously and were very curious/polite/nice about it. I still get the warm fuzzies when I remember it.

I sometimes wonder if we don't come out enough. One of my best friends while growing up passed away some years ago from AIDS, and he never told me he was sick because I believe he was scared that would mean I'd discover he was previously in a gay relationship. Here I was, living in a bdsm lifestyle, and my friend was scared to come out because he was scared I wouldn't approve.

D:
That's so sad D:
My owner's parents are really cool with how people live their lives, something we both know we're going to carry down to any potential offspring. I come from a family who is...modern-traditional (I think that's that's the best way to describe it). I hope to emenate that open air to anyone around me because I think it's such a terrible thing to be afraid to tell your best friend about your life.

In a way I kind of agree with your "I wonder if we don't come out enough" statement. Afterall, we're portrayed as evil sex-fiends, and I don't want that stipulation to continue throughout my life, LOL! Afterall, the gay and lesbian acts were not quiet or gradual, they were a mixture of 'in your face' and 'out of your face', but anything controversial is going to cause some kind of explosion one way or another.

i was taught when i was coming out that the problem with waiting for the status quo to accept us is that the status quo won't accept us, and keeping it hidden is the same thing as letting them keep us silent. i still proscribe to that--though i am by no means radical. the thing that people forget is that most of the civil rights movements started out as a massive break from standards of behavior-- the LGBT movement had Stonewall and even Kinsey's works caused a firestorm of controversy when they were published.

Yeah, I'm no radical either, but I gotta agree with that. If you want to keep quiet, by all means! Keep quiet! For people like me it's like...in order to really know me and get close to me, there are bits and pieces of my life one must accept. My best friend in the universe still doesn't understand my poly-ness, but because I'm open, honest, and very accepting of her, she's willing to confide in me and ask for help with important stuff (she likes to tie up men and had a few worries she wanted me to soothe :P). For that, I'm thankful. Even my younger sister is getting into the lifestyle and it's nice to know that she trusts me enough with her private life to seek help to important questions. I'm out there for my friends, and ever so slightly out there for people who want help and know that I'm at least one source of information they can count on.

what it boils down for me is that there is a difference between being out and telling people about my sex life. i tell people that i'm poly/queer/(and to some who i know won't run with it) kink. i don't walk into class and discuss details of what i do when i'm with Him, most people don't know there's a Him outside of the fact that i may have found my life partner. however if someone wants to talk to me in a calm rational manner about my sexuality i'm willing to tell them. i've had interesting and thought provoking conversations with criminologists that wouldn't have been possible without coming out to some extant. that's not the same thing as discussing all my dirty little secrets but it still is one tiny step towards validating the lifestyle.

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Name one time I called her a moron?

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I don't make mistakes like this and I find it quite moronic to explain someone's own words to them.

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Name calling?

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Grow up kid.

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Welcome to the real world of another/someone reading what is said (word for word) or 'post' in a virtual world being absorbed by others and disected.

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The entire paragraph she initially wrote has been disected to death..enought already.  My opinion is that she brought it on herself.  Get over that.  I will not change my mind whatever what 'bad-words' you use towards me..no matter how pathetic.

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When you are mature enough to come to the conversation in it's entirety and not the end as a saviour..then do so. Bawking about and defending someone's crappy situation at the last minute does nothing but leave a sour taste (or lack of taste, in this case).

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Now the topic has reversed back to you you you and her her her...instead of the topic at hand.

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How about you take your crayons and move along to your busy, busy life of nonsense.