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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 8:12:56 AM   
variation30


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

The same way the ladies usually do: by being in the wrong place at the wrong time. After all, unlike the ladies, the lads aren't used to considering whether a given route will take us through places where one might be assaulted: dark parking lots, alleyways (my city is renowned for being mostly composed of those), and so forth.

The three didn't deny picking someone at random (i.e. from convenience).

The defense rested solely on the notion that an erection constituted after-the-fact consent on his part.


this situation is entirely too bizarre. was this poor fellow jumped by amazons or something?

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Which was the point of the exercise. You being straight, and the act being gay, makes it comparable.


being immersed in BS 'science' experiments, I can say that the more legitimate test would be if I could out will an attractive woman (assuming the assaulted man was straight).

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Shall we see if someone will volunteer their girl to test that theory, then?


I can't imagine a more win/win situation.

In the end, you avoided the real topic, can a male being forced to have sex with a woman (which reminds me of a wonderful quote from arrested development) ever compare to a woman being forced to have sex with a man. certainly not. what, I'm guessing, made the experience traumatizing for the male was the physical abuse, not the forced intercourse. being forced to put your penis into something that is not a blender, mousetrap, or a similarly terrifying object can only be so displeasing - no matter how unattractive you find the female. there is, of course, the threat of an std, but that exists for both sexes. on the otherhand, a woman being penetrated when not prepared can be quite displeasing. the depth of the thrusts can be quite painful. couple that with the risk of unwanted pregnancy and the threat of std's and...well...no need to go on. as much as I'd like to go into a few thoughts on what a sexual assault would psychologically leave with and take from the different sexes, this is certainly not the place.


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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 8:37:36 AM   
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It never fails to amaze me how naive and clueless some of your opinions are.

You can obfuscate it to keep your own perspective of superiority over men, but to really think that there isn't a degree of social pressure for women to limit their sexual partners and not engage in casual, meaningless sex is....well....naive and clueless.
 
... and I feel the same way about you, punkin.
 
I offered only MY experience.. and this was from the all-popular decade people here strive to replicate.. the 50's.  I was also raised strict Roman Catholic.  And where exactly am I espousing "superiority over men"?  I'm just saying women know more about themselves than guys give them credit for.  We compare notes with each other. We discuss techniques. That's what "talking about boys" is all about.  We have knowledge we don't  share with a male right up front because we have to gently guide them to relay what we already know without making him feel uninformed.

This whole thread is amazing to me as it reveals just how many "masters" have no clue about the psyche and the physical  body of a female and they want to be in charge of it??  Here's the biggest clue.. "WOMEN DON'T THINK LIKE MEN".  But I can see the GB activity to be just another bargaining tool to get/or keep a collar.

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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 8:53:41 AM   
TwoNYCDommes


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ORIGINAL: Wickad
This being said, I don't know of many Dominant women (okay, I don't know of any, actually) who engage in this dynamic.  They may have a threesome but I have yet to hear of a Mistress and her harem of fuck toys.


Interestingly, I did that sort of thing more with vanilla boys before I identified as "a dominant," though I always knew I was the one in control.  These days, I more often arrange such things for others than for myself.

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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 11:30:03 AM   
TwoNYCDommes


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ORIGINAL: Aswad
...I have yet to find more than three sex acts that disgust me...


If you'll pardon the removal of all context... I'm curious to know what the three are.

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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 1:48:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

I offered only MY experience.


You stopped offering just your experience when you began speaking for woman as a whole. Make no mistake, I was offering generalizations and speaking about groups of people.
 
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  And where exactly am I espousing "superiority over men"?
 

The hatefulness is clearly obvious. But I guess "feelings of inferiority" might be a better way to explain your attitude and behavior.
 
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This whole thread is amazing to me as it reveals just how many "masters" have no clue about the psyche and the physical  body of a female and they want to be in charge of it??  Here's the biggest clue.. "WOMEN DON'T THINK LIKE MEN".  But I can see the GB activity to be just another bargaining tool to get/or keep a collar.


You should probably reread the thread then....at least my parts.

But...I am sure if you will do you will just go on another male-bashing rant that has zero relevance to any of my arguments.

I guess all that experience didn't teach you how to stay on point.

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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 1:48:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		would love to do a gangbang one day with multiple women wearing strapons  3 or 4 or 5 women each wearing different size strapons from mild to start with and gradually getting bigger ...bet that would be fun to do  and if they wanted to fist me my mistress could show them how she does it  throw in a real cock or 2 to see if i could feel the difference while i was blindfolded would be awesome indeed  to lay there spent and opened up woud be a fantasy come true ...always wanted to do this ahhhh maybe one day ....have fun mal

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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 2:24:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

This whole thread is amazing to me as it reveals just how many "masters" have no clue about the psyche and the physical  body of a female and they want to be in charge of it?? 
yup



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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 2:29:25 PM   
Aswad


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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

you dont know any folks with AIDS i am guessing?


I was going to go with much the same, minus everything from "with" onwards, but decided it might be construed as a less than polite statement, so just dropped it. Since you bring it up, I'm going to have to suggest this plausible correction, though. Which sort of leaves me at otherwise dittoing what MadRabbit said:

Assuming a condom breaks as often as 10% of the time (that'd be grounds for a class action lawsuit, but just for the sake of argument), then adding in the stats for HIV, we arrive at less than 1% chance of contracting HIV in the course of a no-holes barred (pardon the pun) gangbang with randomly chosen guys that have not been screened in any way, nor been asked about their sex habits. The real number for one instance are magnitudes lower, but I'm being an optimist and basing the stats on the assumption that the parties involved will do it again... and again... and again.

But, yeah, the pity expressed by her brings to mind a particular slogan: Not Dead Yet.

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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 2:43:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: variation30

this situation is entirely too bizarre. was this poor fellow jumped by amazons or something?


Nothing bizarre about it... men have been gang-raping women for millenia.

Three women certainly do not have a problem gang-raping one man.

Or are you going to suggest you can take three while unprepared?

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being immersed in BS 'science' experiments, I can say that the more legitimate test would be if I could out will an attractive woman (assuming the assaulted man was straight).


Three of them, to be precise. And seeing as they videotaped it, my guess is homework had been done.

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In the end, you avoided the real topic, can a male being forced to have sex with a woman (which reminds me of a wonderful quote from arrested development) ever compare to a woman being forced to have sex with a man.


Certainly. Even if you restrict it to "vanilla" intercourse.

And men generally deal less well with it than women, due to the stigma.

Which makes you a part of the problem, of course, but you're hardly alone in that.

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on the otherhand, a woman being penetrated when not prepared can be quite displeasing.


I've done that like a million times. It's great fun.

The problem isn't the discomfort, but the trauma associated with the loss of control, the disempowerment, the social expectations and stigma surrounding it, potential guilt over the fairly common response of physical arousal, potential guilt over various ways one may or may not have contributed to it happening, etc.

Most of these factors are common to both genders.

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as much as I'd like to go into a few thoughts on what a sexual assault would psychologically leave with and take from the different sexes, this is certainly not the place.


It's as good as any.

There's more than a few of the ladies here that could compare your theory to their reality, at least.

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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 2:58:22 PM   
Aswad


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ORIGINAL: TwoNYCDommes

If you'll pardon the removal of all context... I'm curious to know what the three are.


I'm sure you are.

The mods are not curious to compare them to the terms of service, however, and this is their "house."

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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 3:02:55 PM   
backseatbebe


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Status: offline 		doesnt it bother you that what he did long ago still controls your sub now?
or that theres an assumption of what he did you will do to?

perhaps its a women thing that makes us think that if one man emotinally withdrawls from a situtation the next man will too

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ORIGINAL: MasterHermes

I am sure there are different reasons but I will give you a real life example . She was ready to do anything for making me happy, but gangbangs were hard limit for her. Not because I asked but she told me her previous experience and how he shared her with his friends and it destroyed everything. I asked her why to understand it better. She told me if Master let others use her, the emotional connection between Master and her is broken and that is where her strenght as a slave is coming from. Once shared she wasnt feeling there is anything special between Master and her and she was falling apart.

This can give you a perspective along with others.

Hermes

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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 3:12:35 PM   
Aswad


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ORIGINAL: MISTRESSKUMA

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

This whole thread is amazing to me as it reveals just how many "masters" have no clue about the psyche and the physical  body of a female and they want to be in charge of it?? 
yup



I note that I have only ever had any complaints in that regard from female dominants.

Which sometimes makes me wonder, albeit briefly, who lacks a clue about what, exactly.

Perhaps a femdom doesn't always have a perfect grasp of the mind of a straight femsub, implying that there's a difference in mindset between a female dominant and a female submissive? Perhaps nature, in the course of some hundred millenia, has done the unthinkable and actually given men sufficient ability to relate to women to avoid the whole species going extinct?

Perhaps dominant men are actually, *gasp*, in some way complementary to submissive women?

It's a radical notion, I agree, but if you ponder it, you may just find the humility to briefly consider the possibility that nature, in the course of said eight hundred thousand years, and a few billion lifetimes, may have accomplished some small thing that you as a single human being are not fully able to replicate in your mind in the span of the minutes it took to concoct the ill-conceived reply that you're lauding here.

Otherwise, I fail to see how any arrogance on my part even ranks.

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(Some sarcasm was used in baking this post; sweeten to taste; reheating not required.)


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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 3:33:54 PM   
MISTRESSKUMA


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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 3:41:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aswad
Perhaps a femdom doesn't always have a perfect grasp of the mind of a straight femsub, implying that there's a difference in mindset between a female dominant and a female submissive?


A difference? Like night and day I'd say.

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RE: Gangbang related - Emotionaly destructive sex. - 6/27/2008 7:29:56 PM   
Aswad


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A difference? Like night and day I'd say.


We agree then. (Note the final comment.)

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