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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 12:43:09 PM   
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I met my Dom through my best friend. She's vanilla and met him on an on-line dating site. She didn't feel a click with him but thought I might. We emailed daily for 2-3 weeks then decided to meet face-to-face. Since my best friend had already gotten his contact information, she was my safe call. But I didn't need it. We clicked right away and have been together ever since, just short of 9 months now. I've been collared for a month. For us, it worked. I've met others where the emails and calls were wonderful but the real-time meet was a dud.

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 12:46:52 PM   
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quote:


The first R/T meeting is scheduled. From the "D" standpoint what are your expectations? From the "s" standpoint what are your concerns and what safeguards are considered, just in case?



I wont answer for Sir, for myself however

Concerns
That I wouldn't be good enough for Him, that we had built things up to far, that the web cam is distinctly soft focus and made me look far better than in person. That I would mess up, that the chemistry wouldn't work, blah blah blah .... I only had this tiny tiny voice of doubt about my safety ... and I mean *tiny*

Safety
I had DVs photo and all relevant personal information on the desktop of my computer, left with several friends, and hidden in my suitcase (serial killer prolly wont check the bag before dumping it but forensics team will). I had made arrangements to speak with my family and my friends before an appointed time after my arrival. These safety measures were put in place because I was being nagged by friends to do so. I had planned to leave a note of where I was incase my house got burgled, not in case I got murdered. I completly trusted DV to be as He said He would be and to keep me safe. In the week before I left however several people were doing their best to plant seeds of doubt in my mind about my safety. They were doing this for their own reasons, not out of concern for me, but in all the emotional build up to the trip, those seeds took root.

Do not be surprised if totally irational worries and fears come up in the final days before a meet, its perfectly natural, they have very little to do with what is *actually* going on ... they are products of the emotional turmoil .. not of reality.

As I walked through the arrivals gate - late at night almost totally empty airport - DV was standing on the other side of the barrier waving to me. This nice old lady who had been sitting near me on the plane (and had clearly noted my growing nerves) noticed and as we walked through the gate she turned to me and said "Oh thats lovely, having someone waiting to meet you" .. DV laughed and ... before saying  anything to me ...said "Well it's about time, I have been waiting three years for her". That evaporated every fear or concern I had. Just in the snap of a second they melted away ... before He even said a word to me.


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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 12:53:05 PM   
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Completely depends on the person and circumstances- we could just have dinner, or we could be fucking within ten minutes.

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 1:18:42 PM   
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The first time I met the person who is now my Master I wasn't worried about safety or anything I was just nervous about meeting him as just from our emails and phone conversations I knew we would probably have a good time and that I liked him. A couple of other Doms I met, one from out of town offered to get a hotel room but I knew from our conversations that would not be necessary and I trusted him. My main concern with the people I have met r/t is:
1) Would we hit it off in person as we did online and on the phone.
2) Since I am a full figured gal one of my concerns although we may had shared pictures and I had been upfront about my size it was still one of my worries...would they be put off by my physical appearance. And that is only because we all have our specific tastes in regards to appearance.
 
And...my sister had phone numbers, names, etc and I would always follow up with her after meeting anyone so she knew I was safe.
 

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 2:52:46 PM   
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*fast reply*

I use to take months, but now a week or two is fine. There are a couple must before I will meet someone though. 1) I have to see a photo  and 2) At least talk on the phone once or twice. 

I pretty much trust my gut when it comes to a persons voice. When I'm meeting them they know on my computer desk is a piece of paper with their name, phone, where we are meeting, and that I will more than likely get a phone call checking up on me (sometimes I have the call, sometimes not).  The first time I go to a persons house I also do the same thing. I ask them if they have a issue with this. If I get told yes, simple I wont go. I've never had anyone to have a problem with this. 

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 4:28:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

Whichever side of the slash your on, ..............

Sorry i got really distracted after these words and lost the plot............


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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 4:46:28 PM   
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quote:

actual meeting can tell you that - and even then, all kinds of unforseen things can blow it all apart at any stage .
OR - you could meet " the one" !


torn, Well no issue with your second paragraph, but I do disagree with the first. Valued time on line can and does disclose agreat deaL about ea side of the slash. Personal kinks can be disclosed right up front to save problems with "your gonna do WHAT"".

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 4:48:59 PM   
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meeting people off the net is a crap shoot...doesnt matter how much time you spend.


faery,

Nope I disagree. I once had a submissive do a "play Misty" routine on me when I did not spend enought time on line.

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 4:51:41 PM   
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quote:

Mainly, I hope that they will show up!


Lady H,

I have spoken to many folks were that was a problem.

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 4:55:00 PM   
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I used to prolong real life meetings. Worrying and all that stuff. The chemistry was great on line and on the phone. Great conversations and everything. However, with the prolonged dancing around I got attatched to the person so when the actual meeting didn't go right I really hated it. It was a huge let down to bond with the person and then have things fall apart in person.


Usako,

did you ever take the time to figure out what went wrong during the meet?

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 4:57:40 PM   
CelticPrince


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quote:

He said, "Why would I want a dead slave?"


girlie,

Now there was a wise "D".

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 4:58:23 PM   
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You're as safe if you meet the next day or the next year. As long as it's only online con types can and will misrepresent themselves.

We met a month after he sent me a one liner. Met at a mall. I got in his car after about a half an hour, and we drove a mile or so to a nearby diner for breakfast. Then back to the mall for me to get my car, following which I followed him to a public beach. Hell, he even tied my wrists together for the drive to the diner. That was five years ago.

But I knew his real name and had googled him. I knew it was him because it turned up some scientific paper he had written which I couldn't make head or tails of. He explained a little of it which he couldn't have done if he weren't the author. And I don't think con men are capable of working that hard in any one industry to be able to author papers. And in that month we had talked about our lives, our ums, family of origin stuff, etc.

Now if he had lived ten miles away I probably would have met him a lot sooner. At which point I wouldn't have gotten into his car yet. And we would have had to do all that background info which informs you about someone's character instead of already having it done.

But the main thing, was there any r/l chemistry? That needs to wait till the first meet whether half an hour after chatting if you live in the same neighborhood or six months, if you live cross country.

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 5:00:29 PM   
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I don't invest emotions or hope in online


Miss,

But is it investing or learning, one does not learn without investment of time.

My opinion anyway.

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 5:26:45 PM   
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Your serious huh...
 
Well...I pat `em on the head and tell `em its going to be ok...
 
I am NOT going to kill you...
 
Then its beat and fuck...doesn`t everyone do it this way?
 
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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 5:28:20 PM   
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Oh...
 
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This ain`t rocket science....

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 5:46:33 PM   
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Weird how an unexpected visit can change your whole outlook on things.  I went to visit my ex Master and his new slave.  I keep in touch with him and adore her.  He wasn't there and I had a lovely visit with his slave and another ex-slave who used to be part of the household that was visiting as well. 

Getting to the point, I promise! 

In the course of the chat, I mentioned that I was planning on meeting one of the "D" men from CM that I had been talking to for a while now, and without ever mentioning his name, just describing our conversation - it turns out this ex-slave also knew him and phew, did she have a lot to tell me.  None of it really good.  Networking is an amazing thing.  Now I have to decide whether to 'risk' going out and meeting him and coming to my own conclusion about this Dominant guy. 

So, I'm revising my whole "what concerns do you have" post from earlier today.

Now, I am not so much worried about rejection.  In light of what I've learned, I'm thinking rejection might be the least of my concerns. 

Gotta love networking (sighs)

WD


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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 5:49:40 PM   
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Networking is fabulous, WD!  If only folks understood that we DO talk to each other...

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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 6:01:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

The first R/T meeting is scheduled. From the "D" standpoint what are your expectations?


With both my past and current submissive ladies, we had established expectations and boundaries before we met R/T, and we both had a reasonably good idea what was going to happen. It's the ole "6 Ps": Proper Prior Planning Prevents Pisspoor Performance.
 
Work thing out as much as possible ahead of time, but you can still have some surprises within the established framework.
 
Just my .02 zlotys. Your milage may vary.
 
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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 6:14:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain

I hope it goes as the online conversations have gone. It won't exactly, but I want it in the ballpark at least. There will be a closeness, a connection if you will, that both of you will feel even if things don't go how the cyber has. Both of you have built up an imaginary person in your mind, but you will know the feelings and desires of that person very well.

Look at it this way, you will know each other far better than you would after a few mumbled words about the weather a stupid dinner date would provide.


I've read all the responses and I keep going back to this one that ExSteel posted. 

If there's not a closenss or a connection, you wouldn't be meeting.    I think it's better than being introduced to someone and saying "hey, let's meet for coffee".   Having an online "relationship", whether it's for a short time or a long time before meeting, gives you an opportunity to get to know the other person.  Maybe not into detail that you will after you've met and decided that you want to continue the relationship.  But you still get a chance to talk serious or playfully.  You get a sense of their humor, their likes, dislikes.    I think if you're serious about getting to know someone, it's worth the effort.

Now about the imaginary person part - I find that only happens when you're not being yourself.  If you communicate with the other person online, with photos (recent, then there are no surprises there), by phone, by text, by email, etc., if the person is not being themself, it will show through.   I guess what I'm saying here is that I don't conjure up who that person will.  They will show me as we get to know each other. 

First meetings are scary, sure.  There's always the chance that both of you will be nervous, excited, worried and there might even be some reluctance.  I think that's human nature.   First time playing together, first time sex, it's all the same.  It's the first time.  

I've been out with someone that I just met in person and left a number or where I'll be with a friend or family.   Taking precautions should be just that.  Whether it's meeting from an online "relationship" or someone down the street. 


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RE: First R/T meeting after "net" time - 7/12/2008 6:32:53 PM   
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I try to meet sooner rather than later, schedules permitting. 2 months is a very long time to stick to just online contact for me, unless there are complications (job schedules, extreme distances, etc.) At this point in my scene-explorations, I am trying to stick to individuals who are close enough that we could meet and play regularly without it being an undue harship for anyone involved. That means sticking to people who are 2 hours or less from where I live, with the occasional exceptionally good prospect up to 6 hours away. I try to meet the people I talk to within 2 weeks, if we can possibly manage it.

My expectations are that the person that I am meeting will be on time. I expect that xhe will be neat and presentable. We will be meeting in a public venue for the first meeting, so I expect that xhe will dress according to the venue, not according to some fantasy. I expect that the person will share any pertinant information about themselves (including things like medical conditions, fears, phobias, boundaries, etc.), and that xhe will listen carefully as I express what I require, and let them know what my boundaries are, and how flexible any given boundary may be.

Sometimes, my companion SR will join us as well, and she will often ask questions, and I expect that her questions will be answered courteously, just as I expect that mine will be.

I do not expect to play at the first meeting, although if the prospect is coming from quite a distance, and is staying over, I will often arrange for a brunch meeting the following day, some sightseeing, and an evening play party (I try to schedule prospects coming from a distance for days when there are events at one of the groups that we participate in). Since public play is one of my requirements, this gives me a good idea how they will handle public situations. If I have other candidates, bottoms that I scene with, or existing servants, I will typically let the prospect know that they will be meeting my other play partners or servants at the next meeting. This seems to help alleviate some of the anticipatory fear on both the newcomer and established play-partner sides.

I expect that we will have a conversation that will cover areas not related at all to BDSM. I expect that we will discuss books, movies, television, politics, spirituality, and life-philosophies over the course of the evening, and that, when all is said and done, we will be comfortable enough that we know one another sufficiently enough that we can plan either service or scene activity for our next meeting.... or, if we note that we don't click, that we will at least have the pleasure of another scene friend (and perhaps, if we know someone else who is looking, we will have the pleasure of being able to recommend the prospect that didn't work out for us to a colleage who seems might be a better fit than we are.)

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