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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 9:01:09 PM

hermione83

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I was raised southern Baptist. They're even more conservative than I am, I'm shocked that you've met any like you say. They are upset with me for hating the 700 club. :P And definitely Christians everyday of the week. They usually repeat a mantra about the Sunday-only Christian and about how bad it is in fact. My pastor used to point out that someone who is loyal to his wife 364 days a year is not loyal at all, and the same with God. Being dominant/submissive is a personality type besides just sex. It carries over into sex. I have been submissive since I can remember.. when I was three years old it was coming out. Some people are smart enough to know themselves without sexual experience, and for some people it encompasses their entire lives, not just sex. And I have talked to many people who say they're serious Christians here.... there aren't many sites that are geared towards D/s. This is the cleanest one I've found that has a decent number of people. I ran the first time I looked at alt.com...

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 9:02:38 PM

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Where I live not having a license or a driver would be a major issue. I have driven through Indiana and feel it would be much the same. I despise driving. I used to love it until I started driving between 650 and 1000 miles a week. I finally got smart and hired a personal assistant to drive for me. This increased my productivity and pays for itself. I still maintain a license and occasionally drive myself but not often. Hiring someone to drive is not feasible for most and I understand that. What I do not understand is how a Dominant allows a fear to prevent them from functioning in any way. We push submissives to challenge their fears and we must face our own. When I was in the Army I was afraid of heights. I became Airborne and Air Assault. It's the Dominant way to overcome anything that gets in our way.

To sum this up, not liking driving is understandable. Allowing fear to control us is not understandable.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 9:27:59 PM

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I was raised southern Baptist.

I was raised as a Methodist. We never went to church unless somone died, got married, or I was visiting the grandparents. I got put on a plane every summer to go visit both my maternal grandmother in Georgia (a Baptist) and my paternal grandparents in West Virginia (Methodists.) I got sent to vacation bible school along with my brother and cousins every summer. I don't complain, it was fun. I got to meet lots of girls. LOL. I was also talked into being a Boy Scout as a youngster. I had a traditional American upbrininging.

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Being dominant/submissive is a personality type besides just sex. It carries over into sex. I have been submissive since I can remember.. when I was three years old it was coming out. Some people are smart enough to know themselves without sexual experience, and for some people it encompasses their entire lives, not just sex. And I have talked to many people who say they're serious Christians here.... there aren't many sites that are geared towards D/s. This is the cleanest one I've found that has a decent number of people. I ran the first time I looked at alt.com

I have been submissive since I can remember too. I read stories about Amazons voraciously when I was 11 years old. I had many jerk off fantasies about Wonder Woman, and Princess Ardala from Buck Rogers making me their slave. I didn't understand it all. I was ashamed of it, and I was afraid that people would find me out. All of us went through that. But I got older and realized I wasn't the only male to have these fantasies. Later on, I realized that women had these fantasies too. You have to be willing to let go of hangups that you got in childhood in order to have a successful relationship. Now I am not telling you to go confess all these things to your family. I haven't done that either. My mother wouldn't understand, and she'd have a heart attack. But don't believe for a second that you are immoral because you have these desires.

But, I still don't think you completely understand what you want. You are not going to meet nice, virginal men on these types of sites.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 9:35:36 PM

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I was raised southern Baptist. They're even more conservative than I am, I'm shocked that you've met any like you say. They are upset with me for hating the 700 club. :P And definitely Christians everyday of the week. They usually repeat a mantra about the Sunday-only Christian and about how bad it is in fact. My pastor used to point out that someone who is loyal to his wife 364 days a year is not loyal at all, and the same with God.

Oh pleeeeeeeaseeeeeeeee! I can say this because I am one - Whenever you get four baptist men together there will be a fifth... The fifth will be named Johnny, Jack, Jerimiah or Josea.

The preacher usually starts off with something along the lines of "Im a sinner! I was a drunk, and a gambler and a womanizer! But Jeeeeeeeeeeesus loves me!" For Christs sake Britt is so fucking Baptist that she shit a brick when I bought fudge from some Methodist kids having a bake sale. (Theys gonna git sent to Methodist Bible camp and gonna be taught wrong and they will burn in the lake of fire fer alllllll eternity! Yeah, OK hunny they are selling fudge I dont give a shit if its the gay Nazis if they are selling fudge Im on that shit!) As Baptist as she is, and keep in mind that she is a school teacher who goes out and plants flowers in the highway medians with the Baptist Womens Service League, I think when she is not in school or church she has a bottle of Miller Lite welded to her hand. She puked in my saltwater reef tank, I have held her hair back in front of more toilets than I can count, and I have some great memories of her and some of her Baptist freinds "panty dancing" on my front lawn... Part of the reason I became Baptist... No Guilt!

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 9:42:46 PM

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I got sent to vacation bible school along with my brother and cousins every summer. I don't complain, it was fun. I got to meet lots of girls. LOL.

And slaveboy, I bet you got your pipes cleaned better at Bible camp than I did in the whorehouses in Thailand!

I have noticed the more religious the woman, the better the fuck. If youre gonna sin, sin BIG! Make it worth the time in the lake of fire LOL.

Best amateur sex I ever had was a Jehovah's witness cutie I seduced when she came to my door.... Three "bible studies" later I had her talking to jesus and speaking in tounges LOL Unfortuately, that ended when another band of JW's came to the door and she answered it in a bathrobe. WHOOPS, Sister Trish doesnt live here!!!! She got "disfellowshipped"

Edited to add: So slaveboy! I was sending your fellow methodists off to that bible camp with my fudge purchases? LOL Was Britt right? Lake of Fire time? LOL

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 9:43:47 PM

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lol, Yeahhh, sure. You must be at the one southern Baptist church that doesn't thinking drinking, gambling, and dancing, even at a wedding is wrong. (I have no huge problem with those, really..). I think if any preacher at any of the many, many baptist churches I've attended/been a member of in my life admitted to being a womanizer half the crowd would fall over dead in their chairs. Not too long ago, there was a huge conspiracy.... oh the shock waves, when a new pastor actually admitted he used to look at porn in a sermon and what horrible effect it had on him. They have told me I'm so bad for loving Harry Potter...

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 9:47:10 PM

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I don't want to meet a "nice" virginal man. I want a deviant, sadistic virginal Knight/man with a dungeon in his basement all geared up for torturing me during the honeymoon. :P

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 9:51:28 PM

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I actually hate driving.

My slave brian drives me nearly anywhere I want to go. With that said, my little houseboy charlie gifted me earlier this year with a really fun to drive, aesthetically-pleasing-to-me car...so though I don't do it often, I don't hate driving nearly as much as I used to.

Mostly, since I have the option of having a driver or not, I choose having a driver.
I don't think anything is wrong with me at all. : )

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 10:12:05 PM

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lol, Yeahhh, sure. You must be at the one southern Baptist church that doesn't thinking drinking, gambling, and dancing, even at a wedding is wrong. (I have no huge problem with those, really..). I think if any preacher at any of the many, many baptist churches I've attended/been a member of in my life admitted to being a womanizer half the crowd would fall over dead in their chairs. Not too long ago, there was a huge conspiracy.... oh the shock waves, when a new pastor actually admitted he used to look at porn in a sermon and what horrible effect it had on him. They have told me I'm so bad for loving Harry Potter...

OK I am really beginning to think that you are simply trolling for attention but your statement about the Baptists is inaccurate. A key tenent of the Baptist doctrine is the "all you need to do to get to heaven is to accept Christ as your lord and savior and to ask his forgiveness." Unlike the Catholics., they do not believe the preacher to be anyone with an "inside line" to god... He is a mere flawed human just like the congregation... It is QUITE COMMON for them to admit wrongdoings so as to establish common ground with the flock and to show that "I am a sinner too, I am saved and you can be as well". These "I was a bad boy" sermons invariably result in nods of agreement, me toos, and amens as people see themselves in what he is saying. At my church, they actually took the Youth Group to go see the last Harry Potter film as enlightened people know that there is no such thing as sorcery. The Baptists are all about forgiveness and hope and dont seek to tell anyone "they are bad"... I can hardly think of a more "forgiving doctrine"...

Arguably the most extreme of the Christians are the Pentecostals. They have been known to speak in tongues, writhe, pass out, start publically confessing their sins to the whole congregation etc. Invariably these confessions are greeted with a chorous of Amens or God Loves You and So Do We or Hallejulia etc... Certainly no scorn and loathing and no guilt trips... They would welcome charlie manson into their midst and if he asked forgiveness and started praising jesus, they would cum in their pants with excitement over "pulling another soul from the brink"....

Are you SURE you dont have them confused with the Jehovahs Witnesses? They DO have sanctions like "disfellowshipment" in which someone is ostracized for their sins...

Edited to add: As for the dancing thing, thats soooooooooooooooooo in the past. Baptist churches, except for the hardline fundamentalists have dances for the youth group, dance lessons for the kids, senior dances for the elderly etc... Here is a link to a parentlal permission form for a Baptist dance http://secondbaptistsuffield.org/ftp/group_1/WU5ZXHNCKDK86H4UG23XSCQT59H78BDC/Dance%20Permission%20Form.pdf This site is from a dancewear supplier - scroll down and note who is listed under "Thanks for your support" http://www.danidancewear.com/ This is a schedule of contra dancers - take a look at some of the venues they are performing in... http://www.contradance.org/html/schedule.php So there are SEVERAL geographically disparate Baptist churches kind of blowing a hole in your theory about Baptists and dancing....

In case it didnt though ... Baylor University is the largest Baptist College in the world - so how do you explain this:
http://www3.baylor.edu/Social_Dance/ or this http://www3.baylor.edu/dance/ or this
http://baylorbears.cstv.com/ot/spirit-squad.html ????

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 10:25:34 PM

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DA - It's called being conservative. I'm not saying I agree with that, exactly, but Baptists are very uptight. They do think Christ is the only way, and people can be forgiven for anything, but they are very strict with people who are supposed to be Christians and gentle with those who aren't. You're supposed to change your life and live as sinless as possible when you become a Christian - and I believe this, too. But certain sins just happened to be bigger deals than others in conservative churches, such as church of God, American/Southern Baptist, Church of Christ, Evangelical churches, etc. Sexual sin is a big deal. Catholics drink and have a lot more sex and "fun" than do the Baptists, in reality, but in theory Catholics are more with ritual and your own morals and less about being saved. They do admit their sins openly, but it's usually.. the kind of sins goody goodies commit. And for some reason, even sins like drugs and such seem to be less of a big deal than sex in southern Baptist churches... I'm not saying they won't forgive, but many of them will talk about it and feel like the person isn't one of them and such. Not saying that that's the perfection behavior to have, but yeah. Being saved, and then following God's rules are important in all churches..we're supposed to be good examples.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 10:34:42 PM

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D.A. I lived in Reno, Nevada for a year and got involved with a few of those "Jill" Mormon chicks who don't "practice" their faith.
Man, did they like to fuck!
I don't think anyone's "going to hell" because they like to fuck.
It's a natural built-in urge for all humans.
It's funny, here you see the Baptists parking way in the back of the parking lot to skulk into the "ABC" store to get a bottle of whiskey, heads down, floppy hat on, sunglasses, hands in their pockets like they're "invisable". lol

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 10:39:37 PM

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DA - It's called being conservative. I'm not saying I agree with that, exactly, but Baptists are very uptight.

Yes they are OH SO VERY uptight - esp at a liberal school like Baylor... LMFAO Once again have a look at http://baylorbears.cstv.com/ot/spirit-squad.html and take note of what the girls are wearing... Not exactly Burkahs or Abayas.

Have a look at what it says about "The Songleaders Dance Team" You know the part where it says:

"The Songleaders Dance Team was created in 1981 to add to the Baylor Spirit and they serve as Spirit Ambassadors for the university. This squad is known for dancing jazz, pom, and funk. They perform/cheer at home football, volleyball, and basketball games as well as pep rallies and community events."

Odd that they are so uptight that the "non dancing Baptists", have had a dance team at Baylor University, for longer than you have been alive... Or is Baylor "not really" a Baptist school? Shall the movie Footloose take precedence over the fact that Baylor University offers a Dance minor? LOL

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/18/2008 11:14:16 PM

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Hey hermione,

A few people here are going to spit their coffee all over their computer screens since I am the one saying this but here goes -

Every so often some folks who are Christian and monogamous and kinky show up on this site. There are groups for people who share these traits. I did a quick search and came up with one query on Yahoo! that could lead you to other sites and organizations.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080307074609AACFrAW

I typed in "Kinky Christians" and "Christians + kink" for starters on Google.

Honey, there is nothing wrong with wanting to remain a virgin until marriage and wanting the same from your husband to be. You just need to look in the right places, no?

Good luck in finding what you seek,

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/19/2008 3:47:03 AM

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I had many jerk off fantasies about Wonder Woman, and Princess Ardala from Buck Rogers making me their slave. I didn't understand it all. I was ashamed of it, and I was afraid that people would find me out. All of us went through that.

Slaveboy, I understand completely! Theres nothing wrong with masturbating to cartoons. For me - its the animated chick from the eSurrance commercials; Erin eSurrance. I even have a little collection of Erin eSurrance porn. (Including one of her bent over the desk being fucked by the GEICO caveman and captioned "So easy even a caveman can do her!") Mmmmmmmm that tall hot blonde chick from Scoobie Do - YUMMY! Hell, I moved to Texas because of Sandy Cheeks, that sexy lil Texas Astronaut squirell on Spongebob! Think it was a coincidence that I wound up in the NASA area

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/19/2008 4:28:41 AM

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Other than medical... I as a Mistress would consider it an issue.

I have had two Dom friends that for reasons like child support/tickets have not drove . I resent them asking me for a ride.... cost of gas, wear and tear on the car and MY TIME is an issue!

The last two subs that contacted me had no drivers license and insisted on me picking them up ...... IT does not work that way!

Leopard

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/19/2008 4:30:04 AM

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Mmmmmmmm that tall hot blonde chick from Scoobie Do - YUMMY!

Velma was a brunette and Daphne was a redhead.

You know, FRED was a blonde, and wore an ascot. You must mean Fred.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/19/2008 6:09:33 AM

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I don't want to meet a "nice" virginal man. I want a deviant, sadistic virginal Knight/man with a dungeon in his basement all geared up for torturing me during the honeymoon. :P

Your posts actually make me sad.
Hermione you are setting yourself up for disappointment, and all I can do is hope that it doesn't hurt as much as I think it is going to.

'A deviant, sadistic virgin?? With a dungeon??' that is just not going to happen.

Have you tried the site Taken in Hand? That is more geared toward what you seek, at least on the christian side of things.

On driving.. that all depends on where the person lives. If they use public transportation only then I see no need for them to own a car.
If they are dependent on others for their transportation (friends or family) then yes I do see an issue.
If they had their license yanked then I most definitely see an issue.

So it is not cut and dried, it depends on why they don't drive.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/19/2008 7:16:52 AM

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Edited to add: So slaveboy! I was sending your fellow methodists off to that bible camp with my fudge purchases? LOL Was Britt right? Lake of Fire time? LOL

I never had to sell fudge for it; we didn't actually go to camp. My mome would take us to visit my maternal grandmother in Georgia every year, than stick my little brother and me on a plane to go see my paternal grandparents in West Virginia for a 3 weeks. The town my grandparents lived in only had 1500 people in it. It was like fucking Mayberry. So they sent us off to the church for vacation bible school. Methodists from 3 counties would be there. LOL. It was great. Summertime, country girls with awesome bodies in bikinis at the church picnics. Ah, to a adolescent young man it was paradise.

Methodists aren't that religious. It's actually a very liberal church. The big conflict they have with Baptists is over the baptism. Methodists sprinkle you with water when they baptize. Baptists dunk you in a tank or nearby pond or lake. It's really silly, but apparently there is something to the way you baptize. Also the Methodist aren't a real fire and brimstone church. You're not going to go in on Sunday and here some preacher condemning gays, adulturers, and drunkards to eternal hellfire.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/19/2008 7:50:46 AM

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You are most welcome slaveboy. I appreciate your candor and your willingness to share.

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Slaveboy is right. Yes, some men here want a woman to love and cherish, and they are monogamous...but they are not exactly altar boys sweetie, and they generally are not here looking for virgin christians waiting for marriage before having sex. Unless you want to pretend for a night or .... nevermind

Thank you Aynne. You know, I'm monogamous. I don't have the energy or the patience to deal with more than one woman at a time (although I admit to having threesome fantasies like every man on the planet ). But, I'd very much like to meet one girl that I can fall in love with. I've never cheated on anyone I've ever been with (it's true, believe it or not.). But I have been around long enough to know bullshit when I hear it. I am a man, and I very familiar with the manipulative things that we do in order to fulfill our sexual fantasies.

I will readily admit to dating vanilla girls and trying to manipulate them into doing kinky things with me when I was younger. I know men lie to women to get laid, because I have done it. It's hard to tell a stranger about all the perverted shit you're into when you first meet them. So most of us have stretched the truth to get what we want in the past. Now I don't do that anymore, because it's more trouble than it's worth. You may be able to talk someone in to things, but that doesn't mean they are going to like it. When they don't like it, and they are only doing it to please you....disaster is going to happen.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/19/2008 7:57:27 AM

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Camille is right. That man does not exist and if he does he is lying to you. Yeah I know, getting older makes you jaded, but it also makes you a bit of a realist. Hey I am all crazy mad in love, it does happen, but you need to be a little more realistic, and not come here looking for christian virgins with rape fantasies and dungeons. Since you have never been with a virgin male, let me just enlighten you. Yawnnnnnnnnn

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ORIGINAL: hermione83

I don't want to meet a "nice" virginal man. I want a deviant, sadistic virginal Knight/man with a dungeon in his basement all geared up for torturing me during the honeymoon. :P

Your posts actually make me sad.

Hermione you are setting yourself up for disappointment, and all I can do is hope that it doesn't hurt as much as I think it is going to.

'A deviant, sadistic virgin?? With a dungeon??' that is just not going to happen.

Have you tried the site Taken in Hand? That is more geared toward what you seek, at least on the christian side of things.

On driving.. that all depends on where the person lives. If they use public transportation only then I see no need for them to own a car.
If they are dependent on others for their transportation (friends or family) then yes I do see an issue.
If they had their license yanked then I most definitely see an issue.

So it is not cut and dried, it depends on why they don't drive.

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