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ElanSubdued -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 2:16:59 PM)
Everyone, Politesub53 has convinced me that I need an attitude adjustment. Okay. I'll jump on the bandwagon and spread the luvvs. Yes mal, this is for you too. :-) [:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)]. Elan.

Politesub53 -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 2:25:37 PM)
Elan, its not so much i see anything in Mals posts, other than his enthusiasm. It certainly isnt my posting style, and it is certainly way too much personal info, in my opinion. I just feel that belonging to a lifestyle that is harshly judged by those outside it, would make us less critical of others. Its not i put up with it, more i dont let it get to me.

Politesub53 -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 2:26:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued Everyone, Politesub53 has convinced me that I need an attitude adjustment. Okay. I'll jump on the bandwagon and spread the luvvs. Yes mal, this is for you too. :-) [:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)][:D][;)][:D][:)]. Elan. Thanks for the smile ( I think ) [;)]

VeryMercurial -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 2:28:13 PM)
Great post, PoliteSub. I see many people in this lifestyle that are far from being accepting.

MISTRESSKUMA -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 2:28:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued malloves69, quote: LadyPact: I'll say one thing, mal. There's no doubt that you're predictable. I'm going to be a very bad forum citizen today. LadyPact said this politely, but I'm not feeling that forgiving. You're the first person on here who really makes me want to use the Ignore function. I just don't understand why you post this stuff mal. For that matter, I don't understand why you continually make small modifications and post (essentially) the same thing ad nauseam. There is never a need to read your posts because we all know, word for word, exactly what's in them. Geesh dude. Save some time and just provide a link to one of your previous posts. This way, you can go back to giving yourself enemas in prep for your next "session" and we can all be spared the duplication. I shouldn't have such a virulent reaction to your posts, but more than anything it's your singular focus, replication, and saccharin insincerity that get to me. Yes, for fuck's sake, we know you "love a woman in control". Argh! After reading your stuff and being subjected to visual desert of smiley icons, I want to vomit. I want to kick puppies. I want to give up anal play (...and I love anal play). Oh, and I want to rescue your mistress from the banality, bleakness, and tediousness of it all. Actually, there is a small bit of kudos I can give you. You always speak of your mistress in a loving way and you seem to have a kind hearted nature. Seriously though, if you don't like something I don't see why you take the time to whine and b*tch about it. Grow up, and don't say anything at all. Go read something you do like. And the whole "right to say how you feel" shit is getting old, yeah you're allowed to say what you want but if you're using the free speech card to be able to be a party pooper, you're just a nasty person, plain and simple. Real nice of you to rain on someone's parade just because you don't like their contributions to the forums. Grow up, party-pooper Scrouge.

dragon2760 -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 2:46:22 PM)
ElanSubdued, I was not offended by your post and for the most part I don't think anyone else was either. I think we were all just yanking at your chain a little, the reason we added the smilies to go along with our comments. (edit: I started typing this before I saw the last few post. This refers to my first post and the few that followed following ElanSubdued's first post.) I too did not realize that this was a pro situation so I would have to agree with UmbraDomina that this could be a very dangerous situation for all concerned. And it's not one I would want to be close to either. I don't know about others here but for me once sex enters the picture it has to be either a very monogamous relationship with safe sex practices being able to be put aside only after a thorough testing of both parties or a relationship with a very strict adherence to safe sex practices. I do want to be around when my kids have kids of their own one of these days. Don't get me wrong sex is very nice but it's not worth dying for. It is great that mal does have such a great time though I am a little more concerned about it than I was before.

malloves69 -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 4:01:15 PM)
first off love the smiles [:)] ok sometimes i overdo it a bit but mondays get together was amazing and i was still floating on a cloud in a way ..smile ..hows that ..any better ? smile ..can i ask why the concern all of a sudden ? the phrase no money no hunny can be used for just about anything in life besides sex [:)] lets say you want to see a pro-dom and you dont have the funds to see her will she still ? dont think so ..so no money no hunny ..our times together are amazing ..that woman means alot to me [:)] everything from her hugs and kisses to her touch and the way she feels and looks ..smile ..what happens behind close doors between 2 consenting adults theres nothing illegal about it as far as im concerned ....ecspecially if she can rock my world the way that she does [:)] my mistress always told me to have fun with these posts but never use her name and i never do out of respect for her ..im just a average middle age guy who loves being submissive to my mistress and when she makes me feel this good i just want to share it with other people in hopes it rubs off and they can feel good too ...smile boy see what a few innocent ladys fingers in a guys ass can do ? she sure did hit a jackpot with doing it to me [:)] just once this week seeing her but we are talking about maybe 2 times next week ..smile ..also talking about maybe a trip together for a long weekend together ..gawd i bet that would be awesome [:)] have fun everyone ..take care ...oh by the way ..knock on wood but we have never caught any diseases from each other in over 7 plus years of playing together and no we dont use condoms ...been faithfull to her now for almost 3 plus years ..i see her and her alone and i trust her completely ..smile ..51 years young and still having fun ..the lady is amazing [:)] enjoy life and each other ..mal

MsStarlett -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 4:19:49 PM)
Mal... Don't fret. Many of us enjoy your posts. Personally, I think you're precious. You scare my boy, but that's ok. We have a good laugh about it. You just keep right on doing what feels good to you. And keep up the happy faces! [:)]

AAkasha -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 4:32:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Elan, its not so much i see anything in Mals posts, other than his enthusiasm. It certainly isnt my posting style, and it is certainly way too much personal info, in my opinion. I just feel that belonging to a lifestyle that is harshly judged by those outside it, would make us less critical of others. Its not i put up with it, more i dont let it get to me. IMHO - the only problem is when people post "pro sessions" as if they were "relationship sessions" and we add to the problem of new subs/learning subs believing that submitting means getting that kind of treatment from a "girlfriend" or "femdom friend" in such a freewheeling, no strings attached, hardcore fantasy mode. Imagine if subs started posting blow by blow descriptions of their pro femdom sessions in the dungeon and communciated them as if they were simply "dates." It would add to the already unhill battle that kinky women face when trying to explain to subs that being a submissive or bottom doesn't mean you get to just get all kinds of hot, juicy, raunchy strap on sex and fisting 2-3 times a week without needing any kind of relationship. Akasha

Politesub53 -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 4:44:13 PM)
AAkasha, i take your point, and i did understand what Elan was saying. i have to say that if a client was visiting a proDomme, as regular and long term as mal has, i feel it possible that a relationship ( IE chemistry ) would develop. Surely it would be hard for any to put up with a client long term, who they did not gel with ?

AAkasha -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 5:03:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 AAkasha, i take your point, and i did understand what Elan was saying. i have to say that if a client was visiting a proDomme, as regular and long term as mal has, i feel it possible that a relationship ( IE chemistry ) would develop. Surely it would be hard for any to put up with a client long term, who they did not gel with ? It all depends on how much money and what standards the woman has, and we know neither. We know she has lots of unprotected sex, that's about it. Akasha

MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 5:07:28 PM)
I dislike mal's lack of punctuation and spacing but otherwise I like his posts because 1 he nearly always adds an apologetic admission "yes I do pay her" so you know his Mistress is a professional 2 many clients form close relationships with their pro-domme and mal is not afraid to admit it 3 many pro-dommes DO engage in sexual acts with their favorite clients and mal is not afraid to expose that truth. Some really good pro-dommes are sex workers. Shock!! Horror!! 4 mal gets great value for money from his pro-domme. That's not a bad thing to advertise to other punters 5 mal trusts his Mistress and they are fluid bonded. 7 years later he is still healthy. mal dares to challenge conventional prejudice against "whores" (I prefer the term sex worker) 6 this is D/s where where hardcore sex IS an expression of love. Is that such a bad thing for Domme or sub to aspire to? For kinky couples, it beats sitting around blogging about sex - they are doing it. So who has the more successful D/s?? My only hesitation is: I sometimes suspect - and I really hope I am wrong - that mal's beloved sex goddess of a Mistress is just a figment of his really wild imagination

AAkasha -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 5:24:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne I dislike mal's lack of punctuation and spacing but otherwise I like his posts because 1 he nearly always adds an apologetic admission "yes I do pay her" so you know his Mistress is a professional 2 many clients form close relationships with their pro-domme and mal is not afraid to admit it 3 many pro-dommes DO engage in sexual acts with their favorite clients and mal is not afraid to expose that truth. Some really good pro-dommes are sex workers. Shock!! Horror!! 4 mal gets great value for money from his pro-domme. That's not a bad thing to advertise to other punters 5 mal trusts his Mistress and they are fluid bonded. 7 years later he is still healthy. mal dares to challenge conventional prejudice against "whores" (I prefer the term sex worker) 6 this is D/s where where hardcore sex IS an expression of love. Is that such a bad thing for Domme or sub to aspire to? For kinky couples, it beats sitting around blogging about sex - they are doing it. So who has the more successful D/s?? My only hesitation is: I sometimes suspect - and I really hope I am wrong - that mal's beloved sex goddess of a Mistress is just a figment of his really wild imagination Unless I missed it among all the smileys, he did not state that she was a pro in this post. Not all people who read the forums are familiar with someone's posting history. It read like a report of a night with a girlfriend, not a pro session. Akasha

LadyPact -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 5:28:01 PM)
AAkasha, I agree with you also. In addition, I think it sends a terrible message than pro's do sleep with their clients. How many threads have there been rounds and rounds that pro dommes aren't prostitutes and there is no sex when folks pay? Then here is the example of yes, there is sex with an exchange of money when going to see a pro. As wonderful as I think you are, politesub, I have to disagree with you. In all walks of life, there are many professions where people maintain clients for years without any form of attachment. Doctors, lawyers, hairstylists, and many others have the same people see them for years on end. It doesn't necessarily mean there is a bond, or even that they like them very much. They are getting paid for a service. As long as that client keeps paying, there's no reason not to continue providing the service.

petdave -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 6:00:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued Still, there's only so much "happiness" a person can take before it turns ugly. Please, please, please take fucking pity on us and on your mistress too. There's a bit of old pimpin' wisdom that comes to mind here: Don't hate the playa, playa- hate tha game

MzMia -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 6:15:45 PM)
I am glad[:)]you are so happy with you Lady friend. I could be wrong here mal,[:)]but it appears at this point[:)]she is certainly your girlfriend.[:)] Many people don't[:)]understand the concept[:)]that a man[:)] might give money[:)]to his Mistress[:)]. But, as long as[:)]you both are happy[:)], it does not matter[:)] to me[:)]if you give her[:)]money,diamond rings, take her out to dinner,[:)] pay her bills, buy her clothes [:)]or whatever.[:)] Enjoy life and each other [:)]Mia

MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 6:19:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact How many threads have there been rounds and rounds that pro dommes aren't prostitutes and there is no sex when folks pay? Then here is the example of yes, there is sex with an exchange of money when going to see a pro. I used to believe pro-dommes were somehow "above" selling sex and that all pro-sessions were chaste. Somehow they did something in their dungeons worth $300 per hour that was non-sexual Then I met real pro-dommes. The worst part of the job, one told me, was giving so many hand jobs. And watching so many guys come. The role playing, spanking etc was all fun, but it always ended in sexual release for the male I was shocked. It was like being told there is no Santa Claus So I checked with some men. And yes, to my surprise, ejaculation is always the end result of the session they said. In fact, guys have to make clear beforehand if sexual release is not something they want I know why pro-dommes protest their business is not sexual. Prostitution is considered a disdainful - even illegal in the US - career. And almost every woman on these boards who can claim she was a totally non-sexual pro-domme is no longer in the business!!! mal is telling us there is no Santa Claus. Pro-dommes do not consistently earn $200 - $ 300 an hour for non-sexual services. Maybe before the internet days they did, but not now according to the industry in my city. PS: added - and SO WHAT if pro-dommes are selling sexual release? Its an honest business albeit not one our society respects

AAkasha -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 6:23:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia I am glad[:)]you are so happy with you Lady friend. I could be wrong here mal,[:)]but it appears at this point[:)]she is certainly your girlfriend.[:)] Many people don't[:)]understand the concept[:)]that a man[:)] might give money[:)]to his Mistress[:)]. But, as long as[:)]you both are happy[:)], it does not matter[:)] to me[:)]if you give her[:)]money,diamond rings, take her out to dinner,[:)] pay her bills, buy her clothes [:)]or whatever.[:)] Enjoy life and each other [:)]Mia Unless she meets someone else [:(] who pays her more money [:(] Or he ends up with [:(] a disease from unprotected sex [:(][:(] Akasha

MzMia -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 6:27:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia I am glad[:)]you are so happy with you Lady friend. I could be wrong here mal,[:)]but it appears at this point[:)]she is certainly your girlfriend.[:)] Many people don't[:)]understand the concept[:)]that a man[:)] might give money[:)]to his Mistress[:)]. But, as long as[:)]you both are happy[:)], it does not matter[:)] to me[:)]if you give her[:)]money,diamond rings, take her out to dinner,[:)] pay her bills, buy her clothes [:)]or whatever.[:)] Enjoy life and each other [:)]Mia Unless she meets someone else [:(] who pays her more money [:(] Or he ends up with [:(] a disease from unprotected sex [:(][:(] Akasha [:)]I totally agree Akasha![:)] I started a thread on "unprotected" sex in the main forums a few months ago. http://www.collarchat.com/m_1885935/tm.htm Many people in this lifestyle AND around here engage in unprotected sex![:)] So why should I single out one person? Do you really, really feel he is the only one around here having unprotected relationships? mal is 51 years old, I am sure he has been taught about the risk of std's and safe sex, by now. That is not my job.[:)]

MzMia -> RE: mals amazing monday get together ...shes back ..smile (8/6/2008 6:29:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact How many threads have there been rounds and rounds that pro dommes aren't prostitutes and there is no sex when folks pay? Then here is the example of yes, there is sex with an exchange of money when going to see a pro. I used to believe pro-dommes were somehow "above" selling sex and that all pro-sessions were chaste. Somehow they did something in their dungeons worth $300 per hour that was non-sexual Then I met real pro-dommes. The worst part of the job, one told me, was giving so many hand jobs. And watching so many guys come. The role playing, spanking etc was all fun, but it always ended in sexual release for the male I was shocked. It was like being told there is no Santa Claus So I checked with some men. And yes, to my surprise, ejaculation is always the end result of the session they said. In fact, guys have to make clear beforehand if sexual release is not something they want I know why pro-dommes protest their business is not sexual. Prostitution is considered a disdainful - even illegal in the US - career. And almost every woman on these boards who can claim she was a totally non-sexual pro-domme is no longer in the business!!! mal is telling us there is no Santa Claus. Pro-dommes do not consistently earn $200 - $ 300 an hour for non-sexual services. Maybe before the internet days they did, but not now according to the industry in my city. [:)]I think I want to love you, Ms.C. You remind me of the little boy in the story about the Emperor with no clothes on. Everyone could see the man was naked, but no one dared say it. Gosh I adore you. Many people also don't consider "forced bi" and strap-on's as sexual acts, either.[8\|] A lot of BDSM related activities ARE sexual in nature.[sm=ass.gif] I would never say all Professional Dominants engage in sex acts, but to say many are not engaged in sexual related activities is well......[8\|]. To also say that there are not a fairly large number of prostitutes that call themselves "Professional Dominants", would mean you can't buy a clue and are indeed clueless. Of course, there are none on or around these parts. [:D] In fact, many of the Professional Dominants that do NOT engage in activities that are indeed sexual in nature, say it on their profiles and websites. If they don't say it up front? [:D]

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