candystripper -> RE: Fake Irish (8/12/2008 7:17:28 PM)
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Slaveboy, they probably do that because the Irish are the fucking coolest people on earth. My last name is Scots-Irish too on my paternal grandfather's side and his ancesters probably went to Ireland from Scotland during or after the Jacovite wars. Only they stayed in Ireland until the early 1900's. And they must have converted to Catholisim in Ireland probably from Presbitarians in Scotland. My grandmother's clans were "Dohertys", "McLaughlins" and "Laffertys", very common names up on the Inishowen Peninsula of Donegal. My mother's people came from Sligo and were "Mc Donoughs" and "Faheys" prounounced "Fa-Hay", in Irish. Not all the "Scots-Irish" left Ireland, many intermarried and are still there today. About as far as you can go back in that part of Ireland is maybe 200 years. (if you're lucky.) When I was over in Donegal doing geneology research an Irish Preist a Fr. Mc Goldrick told me that many churches burned over the years and took the records with them. Also, many were very poor and couldn't afford a headstone for loved ones so they'd just put a big rock on the grave. So, if your friends and neighbors have Irish names they are, to a certain extent "Irish." The Scots and the Irish are "cousins" anyway! On a good clear day you can see Scotland from Malin Head. The Scots and the Irish have been intermingling in marriage, commerce and music for a thousand years. All Scottish Kings before 1789 were Irish. Popeye, you know what I'm talking about. If my ancestors and your ancestors met each other, we'd be fighting. I am an American, but I do not deny any other ethnic group that title. I just want people to really read up on history. I don't like this false victimization that is occurring in America. I see it all the time, and I'm tired of it. WTF? False victimization? Are people lining up to lynched by *pretending* to be Catholic? I mean...I'm sure somewhere there's a nutjob or two who might harm someone for being Catholic.....but really? I have no clue what the hell you're on about. "No Irish Need Apply' signs in Boston, circa 1890, perhaps? Lord have mercy. There really ARE things worth getting riled about, yanno. It's not necessary to invent them. candystripper
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