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sirsholly -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 4:10:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I hear my neighbors call themsleves Irish, and it just irritates me.  If your family came from the South or Appalachia, than you're not Irish.  I just don't understand this urge to latch on to a culture you're not a part of. 


i don't understand why what others call themselves is so irritating to you. Personally...i have much better things to do then get PO'd about my neighbors nationality.[8|]



Hippiekinkster -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 4:27:52 AM)

Well, what does it all matter in the long run? My Familienname is Schlußelburg, but that doesn't mean I'm royalty. (google it. It goes back a long, long way).

We're all here, we are who we are, and that's that.




cjan -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 5:37:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I hear my neighbors call themsleves Irish, and it just irritates me.  If your family came from the South or Appalachia, than you're not Irish.  I just don't understand this urge to latch on to a culture you're not a part of. 


i don't understand why what others call themselves is so irritating to you. Personally...i have much better things to do then get PO'd about my neighbors nationality.[8|]



Ditto. This comes under the heading of "who gives a flying fuck ? ".



beargonewild -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 7:51:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

I can't understand why anyone would claim to be Irish? These people almost got wiped off the face of the earth by a potato.  All I know is that if you ever see 4 people claiming to be Irish, you'll find a fifth.




Maybe because the Irish of today were the lucky ones who survived the potato famine?  According to some posts, I can't claim to be of Irish heritage yet all my research going back to the early 1800's shows my great great grand dad was born in Donegal Bay and married a lass from Tipperary. *sigh*  So damn my grandfather for marrying a Ukrainian woman and then my dad for marring a French Canadian.

FYI.....when asked, I state my heritage is part Irish/Ukrainian/French yet I am also Canadian. Like the saying goes"God made whiskey so the Irish wouldn't rule the world"



scifi1133 -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 7:53:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I knew this post would piss off people.  Too bad, live with it.  If you weren't born Catholic, you probably aren't Irish.  Sorry, but that's the truth. 

Hmmm well since Ireland has become a much more diverse country, does this mean that no one born in there is Irish unless they are Catholic. Boy aren't they going to be pissed.
Oh and by the way, just as a side note. My parents are from County Cork, they moved to Virginia (the south) ! year before I was born. They are both Irish and live in the south. And yes since it seems to be a qualifier I am catholic.



KMsAngel -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:09:58 AM)

and *fanning self* oh my lord that accent!



sirsholly -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:12:52 AM)

but is it a weal and trew gen-u-whine Irish accent?



beargonewild -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:13:19 AM)

Can we have a clean up in aisle 3 please?



beargonewild -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:14:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

but is it a weal and trew gen-u-whine Irish accent?


Yes it is authentic!



sirsholly -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:14:51 AM)

[sm=mop.gif] I'mma cummin'...hold yer horses...



lalbobbilynn -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:16:50 AM)

What an intense thread!
i grew up North of the mason/Dixon line, in a very Irish(German too) family. My maternal grandmother was a O'Shaughnessy, the "O" being dropped b/c no one cares who You are the brother or son of, considering Irish folks have a minimum of 23 siblings!
Potatoes are what they are, cheap and a staple of most Irish folks diet. Before i married my Phili/Italian husband, i had never eaten rice, and b/c my (now ex) father-in-law had to live in the caves when the Japanese attacked his country, thus only eating potatoes for eighteen months, my ex husband has never eaten potatoes before he and i married. Was hilarious to watch my in-laws fight over which starch to serve to make everyone comfortable! Almost as jocular as watching my Irish aunts and uncles debate the finer points of making cherry or raspberry cordial with an all Scots uncle (he grew up in Scotland) who married into our family!
Although i was adopted when i was three months old, i have always considered my environment to have a strong impact on me. i have met and know my biological family, who are French and English.
On that note my 13y/o UM only claims to be Italian, so go figure!
b.~



beargonewild -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:17:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: scifi1133

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I knew this post would piss off people.  Too bad, live with it.  If you weren't born Catholic, you probably aren't Irish.  Sorry, but that's the truth. 

Hmmm well since Ireland has become a much more diverse country, does this mean that no one born in there is Irish unless they are Catholic. Boy aren't they going to be pissed.
Oh and by the way, just as a side note. My parents are from County Cork, they moved to Virginia (the south) ! year before I was born. They are both Irish and live in the south. And yes since it seems to be a qualifier I am catholic.


So scifi, you think if I reverted back to using the proper spelling to my last name O'Faolin that I'd qualify?



KMsAngel -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:21:57 AM)

bear, you haven't got the accent.

sci, i have towels!



GreedyTop -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:24:27 AM)

but he's a Canuck... that works for me :)



beargonewild -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:36:16 AM)

Well angel, I never claimed to have an Irish brogue! Apparently my ancestry have spent too many years here in Canada and I'm not Catholic...therefore I'm not weal and twue and just a fake wannabe Irish.
*snort*

Ahhhh  the trials and tribulations of being a mutt/mongrel  *sigh*



GreedyTop -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:42:16 AM)

'sok, Bear.. we love ya anyway ;)



beargonewild -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 8:59:06 AM)

~FR~

More than likely, these people you meet are claiming a part of their heritage, a part to which they identify strongly with. The thing with human nature is we have this need to feel we belong to something, whether it's our nationality or our ancestral roots. Take myself as an example, my ancestry breaks down to 1/4 Irish, 1/8 Ukrainian, 1/8 Scottish and 1/2 French Canadian; yet I identify more towards my Irish heritage than I do with the French side. I can't see how one can be annoyed by others who do identify as Irish or German or Dutch, etc. It's no different then a person who is a staunch monarchist who shows great pride in the British empire and the pomp and royalty from England.
If I wanted to really split hairs on this matter, I could argue that in a technical sense, I am not a true Canadian since my ancestry originated from elsewhere. The only true Canadians are the aboriginals who settled this continent way back in Pleistocene ice age during the Cenozoic era. But this is all mote point.
  I simply look upon this as people are having a sense of pride in their ancestry and to some extent, proud to claim a part of their heritage and maybe their entire heritage.



scifi1133 -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 9:04:51 AM)

Ah Angel tis true ya do love the accent.
And Im glad ya have the towels lassy...makes the cleanup easier.



impishlilhellcat -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 9:06:16 AM)

A good portion of me is hungarian.. My great grandmother and great grandfather came to the US when my grandfather was little. She hated moving.



beargonewild -> RE: Fake Irish (8/13/2008 9:06:31 AM)

*puts on a pair of hip waders*
Just don't want to drown in angels' puddle!



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