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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 10:48:21 AM   
velvetears


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Status: offline 		i agree misst.  my last dom was married and when he was dating her she presented as a masochist. They started slow and he said they played pretty hard - not as hard as he would have liked but he felt they could build up to it.  Their relationship grew and they got married. One day he took out the toy bag and she broke down in tears.... she hated pain and couldn't deal with it anymore.  Fast forward a few years - frustrating ones for him, and they decide to open up their marriage... he and i get together.  Perfect together, he and i match in so many ways.  We play, explore, grow, experiment - he's so happy to finally be able to express this side he has repressed in order to save his marriage.... she pulls the plug, can't deal with it, thought she could.  i am out a complimentary sadist to my masochist and he has to keep struggling with miss deception.  Why would anyone pretend to be someone they aren't?  i think if i weren't a masochist the last partner i would want to hook up with would be a sadist.  So i agree - a good sadist is hard to find... and keep. 

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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 10:54:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: missturbation
When i say sadistic i am talking about people who would for example openly admit they at times want to kill you and it is a fine line they walk with you. Make you nail your own breasts to a board. Do eel play and state that if you die of peritonitus on your head be it. Stab you, duck you, double flogger you with blows that would send you flying across the room if not restrained. Etc, etc, etc.

Erh, i suppose myself for a masochist of harder sort, but these ones are not of my like. Not at all. :)

But even so, among 20 compatible persons i could probably find only one that would be eager to give me pleasure of needed pain and possibly extend my limits. Mission impossible.

*edit to rephrase and add:*
i love your nickname missturbation. :)


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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:03:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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I find a lot of people *say* their sadistic, and then wimp out on me.

I get a lot of this. Talking to someone who claims to be highly sadistic then we get to talking about some of the scenes i've done and their faces just pale or go green

edited for bad spelling again.
Also to digress i thought i had eye cheese in my pic then but turns out it was a bit of dirt lol.
Or they run away.  Screaming.

And, I've got to ask... eye cheese?  What on Earth?  (Or do I not want to know?)

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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:07:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IvyMorgan

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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I find a lot of people *say* their sadistic, and then wimp out on me.

I get a lot of this. Talking to someone who claims to be highly sadistic then we get to talking about some of the scenes i've done and their faces just pale or go green

edited for bad spelling again.
Also to digress i thought i had eye cheese in my pic then but turns out it was a bit of dirt lol.
Or they run away.  Screaming.

And, I've got to ask... eye cheese?  What on Earth?  (Or do I not want to know?)


Eye cheese = sleep
it wasnt though it was a dirty mark on my screen lol

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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:09:04 AM   
CallaFirestormBW


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Status: offline 		I will say that finding a good masochist (guy in particular) who is willing to spill life-blood for me is challenging, at least, it's challenging around here. It's fascinating to me that the offers that I've gotten from people who are willing to play with me on a "when I can" basis are all from Europe or Australia (there are some hard-ass masochists guys in Australia). I don't beat hard, but I can find creative ways of inflicting pain and leaving that glorious coppery scent in the air-- and my Darling can be a truly cruel, heartless bitch as far as the psychological play, and I am happiest when I'm damned near swimming under someone's skin, I have so many pointy things stuck into them. The tang of blood, burned flesh and scorched hair -- Oh, jeeze... see.. who needs SEX when I can have -that-?

I will admit that I may have missed some opportunities by not playing casually with my pet kinks -- I'm getting over that. Especially with something my Darling said to me the other night, while I was busy complaining, once again, that I don't have anyone to draw blood on anymore (she is completely unsympathetic, and refused to let me bleed -her- *grumble*... and told me I'd have to wait and settle for piercing my daughter for her birthday... then my daughter wimped out and decided on a pinna piercing instead of the nice, bloody eyebrows!... but I digress). Anyway... she made the comment that I'm so stuck on not playing casually with blood play -- but that I was a paramedic, midwife, and now do the occasional permanent piercing for strangers, and I have yet to ask someone who was injured for their health certificate before I was elbow-deep in their blood and body fluids (I do ask folks I'm piercing if they have any health issues I should know about -- but I don't ask for a health certificate)... so it was -clearly- my issue! You know what.. she's right. I may just have to re-evaluate that whole issue.

Anyway... bleed for me, baby! What... no takers???

CFB


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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:10:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

Anyway... bleed for me, baby! What... no takers???

CFB



Grins ... come into a Yorkshire Dungeon and say that ... double donkey dare you!


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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:13:09 AM   
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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:13:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: softness

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

Anyway... bleed for me, baby! What... no takers???

CFB



Grins ... come into a Yorkshire Dungeon and say that ... double donkey dare you!



Ditto
Sees Misst and soft fighting over who gets to bleed first

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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:15:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

quote:

ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

Anyway... bleed for me, baby! What... no takers???

CFB



Grins ... come into a Yorkshire Dungeon and say that ... double donkey dare you!



Honey, if I could get out of the country, you bet your sweet arse... but that's been my issue the last several months. The guys (and gals) who are willing to let me "under their skin"... all of 'em are across millions of gallons of ocean or all the way across the continent (for the couple who are actually in the States).

Tell ya what -- next summer, if I can get away from the paying gig that keeps me in needles and you're not with someone who won't let you play with freaky American women, I'll come to Yorkshire and cover you from the top of your pretty little head to the bottom of your darling, sweet little feet in a mandala of needles -- then sit and meditate on your beautiful, open flesh and the beautiful scent of your blood.

CFB




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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:18:02 AM   
CallaFirestormBW


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quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

quote:

ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

Anyway... bleed for me, baby! What... no takers???

CFB




Grins ... come into a Yorkshire Dungeon and say that ... double donkey dare you!



Ditto
Sees Misst and soft fighting over who gets to bleed first


Oh, and it looks like I may have to make a side trip to Manchester... or.... double mandalas, anyone???? I'd be in another dimension, that is for sure!

CFB


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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:19:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		and here i thought that is when you knew things were getting good and really interesting. when that red stuff starts pumping.. ohh what a good day that is.

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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:25:54 AM   
softness


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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

quote:

ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

Anyway... bleed for me, baby! What... no takers???

CFB




Grins ... come into a Yorkshire Dungeon and say that ... double donkey dare you!



Ditto
Sees Misst and soft fighting over who gets to bleed first


Oh, and it looks like I may have to make a side trip to Manchester... or.... double mandalas, anyone???? I'd be in another dimension, that is for sure!

CFB



don't sweat it ... we generally come as a pair these days anyway

and that sounds yummmmmmy ... depends on whether DV has plans to keep me in the basement next summer or not ... but if not ... its a date!

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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:41:31 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		Sooooooo, now instead of "real true" Masters/Mistresses/Slaves arguments we are going to have "real true" sadists and masochists arguments?

Arguing that you are only a "real and true" sadist/masochist if.......insert activity here..

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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:44:12 AM   
CallaFirestormBW


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ORIGINAL: leakylee

and here i thought that is when you knew things were getting good and really interesting. when that red stuff starts pumping.. ohh what a good day that is.


*grins* I just had to pull Sixx:A.M. out here for a second:

"I know some things that you don't
I've done some things that you won't
There's nothing like a trail of blood
to find your way back home..."

CFB


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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:48:07 AM   
CallaFirestormBW


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< Message edited by CallaFirestormBW -- 8/14/2008 12:01:36 PM >

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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:52:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Sooooooo, now instead of "real true" Masters/Mistresses/Slaves arguments we are going to have "real true" sadists and masochists arguments?

Arguing that you are only a "real and true" sadist/masochist if.......insert activity here..


Like we need one more slippery line to debate to death anyways! lol...   Do real true sadist and masochists use gas masks or not? hahahaha 

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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:57:03 AM   
LaTigresse


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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 11:59:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Sooooooo, now instead of "real true" Masters/Mistresses/Slaves arguments we are going to have "real true" sadists and masochists arguments?

Arguing that you are only a "real and true" sadist/masochist if.......insert activity here..


nope .. thats not it at all ... where did the OP say that?

What she said was a certain type of person ... an extreme Sadist in her case ... is what she is looking for, and they are hard to find. Factor into that that she also wants them to be an intelligent, interesting, decent  human being, with only the nice kinds of insanity ... and she is really struggling.

The OP furnished a couple of examples of what she means by extreme ... she also stated other people would have others ... didn't see a "true" or "real" statement in there.




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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 12:02:19 PM   
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Sees Misst and soft fighting over who gets to bleed first


Sheesh another pair!

During a play session not that long ago:
Me: "You're bleeding bitch!"
metalmiss: <grins manicly>


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RE: A good sadist / masochist is hard to find.... - 8/14/2008 12:08:39 PM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		I didn't mean to suggest that was MissT's intent. What I was suggesting that a discussion like this could easily turn into the whole "real and true" type of discussion.

"Oh, you think doing xxx is extreme?? WELL, the other night Fred and I did xxx, now THAT is extreme!!!"

aka............ my S&M is more extreme than yours. More valid. More real, more true S&M.

All I am doing is giving another point of view on the subject and the discussions I've seen on this particular type of subject lately. I think "extreme" should be determined by those individuals within their specific relationship and not always by the masses as guidelines for individuals. What activities are extreme to one person, may be tame to another. I just would hate to see another shark and guppy thread.

I adore MissT and would never personally attack her. I would hope that she knows that. I am just giving another point of view on the topic at hand.

< Message edited by LaTigresse -- 8/14/2008 12:09:33 PM >

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