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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:08:36 AM   
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miss,it IS the uber's showing thier thoughts and motivations that so upsets the "bunnies".

And VERY seldom do I see the so called "elitists" saying much more than they get off on what they talk about. I guess such honesty is too hard for some to bear without resorting to retaliation for the "monsters."

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:09:51 AM   
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There is some competiton here, that much is clear, but I really think most of this is simply mis-reading one another's intentions in their posts. 


Not just here, but I've seen it in some form at nearly every public event I've ever attended. This isn't a contest...or at least if it is no one told me that's what it's about. For some weird reason people place value on...or even RESPECT other people for how extreme they are....and look down on people who aren't at the same level and attach them with labels that indicate "less".  I've even had it happen to me. I've had people come up to me after play and say that they have a "whole new RESPECT" for me now that they got to see me play. Wtf? You're going to respect me because my nerve pathways are different than yours and I process pain differently than you and can take more of it than you? Good God, I don't want anyone's respect or admiration for THAT. Respect me for who I am. Respect me for the way I live my life. But don't respect me because of my pain tolerance. Don't respect me because I might take risks that you would be uncomfortable taking.

I've also gotten it in reverse. I could be being beaten silly with a 2s4 and there will still be someone who will say that I'm less than they are because they could do the same thing ....but they would add 3' inch nails to the board.

Why? Why would anyone look up to someone or look down upon someone because of such a thing?

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:13:01 AM   
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erin...with all due respect,,, your OP specified the boards here...

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:13:49 AM   
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For those who wonder about the irritation at "uberness" it is because it kills real debate and discussion.  This is the ONLY place I post deep revealing stuff about myself because while I know nobody is going to coddle me, I also don't have to put up with dipshits yelling "pussy" or "real doms don't do that" sort of crap.

In short, MY honesty is met with OTHERS honesty...and I LOVE that!!!!


Hey Michael,

Thanks for what I bolded above.  I was trying to understand the heart of the matter, and your reply explained that.  I wondered if the "false advertising" stuff was striking a chord with people (insecurity) or if the answer was deeper than that.  Often times we hear "you're just insecure" as the reply, but I suspected there was more to it than that.

OK, so it is an untruth, and how can anyone engage in truthful, honest discussion if it is based on untruth to begin with?  I get that.  But I also wonder, how can an observer really tell if someone is thinking of him/herself  as "uber" or if we are just interpreting it that way?  If we are misinterpreting and responding in kind, aren't we then injecting untruth into the discussion?

I think my head is going to pop. 

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:14:20 AM   
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miss,it IS the uber's showing thier thoughts and motivations that so upsets the "bunnies".

And VERY seldom do I see the so called "elitists" saying much more than they get off on what they talk about. I guess such honesty is too hard for some to bear without resorting to retalition for the "monsters."


Oh crap, better not let the Monsters out of the closet, they might go on a rampage and eat up those Bunnies.   Well, they might play well with the "Devil Bunnies".  I'm certain there are a few Bunnies that can fend for themselves.  I mean Bugs Bunny has been doing a good job at it for so many years.    Just because it looks all cute and innocent does not mean it actually won't fuck with your world some.

If my hot dates panties get wet from watching horror movies, I think it's safe to let a few of the monsters out of the closet.

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:16:38 AM   
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erin...with all due respect,,, your OP specified the boards here...


Yes it did....but the people here don't have the market cornered.

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:17:14 AM   
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"Hello My Name is KoM... I am an Uber Dom"


oh sorry... I thought this was Uber-anonymous...

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:18:01 AM   
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miss,it IS the uber's showing thier thoughts and motivations that so upsets the "bunnies".

And VERY seldom do I see the so called "elitists" saying much more than they get off on what they talk about. I guess such honesty is too hard for some to bear without resorting to retalition for the "monsters."


Oh crap, better not let the Monsters out of the closet, they might go on a rampage and eat up those Bunnies.   Well, they might play well with the "Devil Bunnies".  I'm certain there are a few Bunnies that can fend for themselves.  I mean Bugs Bunny has been doing a good job at it for so many years.    Just because it looks all cute and innocent does not mean it actually won't fuck with your world some.

If my hot dates panties get wet from watching horror movies, I think it's safe to let a few of the monsters out of the closet.


It's exceedingly easy to play the game of building yourself up by demonizing others and thier views. It's a common method for validating and defending a narrow point of view. Almost knee jerk thoughtlessness.

It's much harder to try to see inside of others-and what makes it so great for THEM. Rather than simply recoiling in horror, and slamming shut the doors of your little boxes.

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:21:38 AM   
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Why? Why would anyone look up to someone or look down upon someone because of such a thing?


envy
jealousy
insecurity
arrogance
and the ever popular:  immaturity
 

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:24:32 AM   
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Personally, I have a dart board...
I've been debating about ripping a Crazy 8 Ball apart and making modification to it...
Anybody up for playing a Game of Uber Monopoly?  Man, I can't believe how different limited collector's editions there of that game.  I have a whole room full of them now. 
I hope some poor bastard does not read this post and take it literally.   
1. I am jealous of the dart board… my cion toss only allows for humble vs uber. I bet you you have shades of gray in your range don’t you?

2. google “8 ball anatomy”  I can’t believe you want to do that!

3.  Do you have the collectors edition with the square metal can and the board that folds 4 ways?

4.  I am that poor bastard


Are you talking about the "HellRaiser" Special Edition! Damn, I have yet to figure out how to get the Square Metal Can to open... God, I love pinhead.  You know that Mofo is into some serious Uber Needle play.  http://www.monstersagogo.com/blog/uploaded_images/Hellraiser-pinhead-786014.jpg


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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:26:48 AM   
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Damn Bunnies.

Although I suppose this could be the reason...lack of sex bunnies

the.dark.


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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:29:11 AM   
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miss,it IS the uber's showing thier thoughts and motivations that so upsets the "bunnies".



So what lies between ubers and bunnies?  Extremes have always bugged me - I think it's my 'can't we all just get along' sensibility, and yes, I need to work on that. 

Uber posts bug me because they make me feel judged that I shouldn't be in the pool to begin with, let alone exploring those depths that so intrigue me and draw me in.  (I am SO not a guppy, damn it! lol) 

Bunny posts ... well, I just skip over the urges for safety and the SSC talk, etc.  It's just not applicable to how I live my life.. 

But the thing to remember is - these are my reactions to posts from people I've never met.  It's my own internal workings that make me respond the way that I do - not their fault for posting their points of view.  I don't like to be told that I'm not real/true/valid because my experiences don't match with theirs, but hey, what am I gonna do?  Sigh and move on...

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:29:47 AM   
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The bunnies here seem more like this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg



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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:33:07 AM   
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miss,it IS the uber's showing thier thoughts and motivations that so upsets the "bunnies".



So what lies between ubers and bunnies?  Extremes have always bugged me - I think it's my 'can't we all just get along' sensibility, and yes, I need to work on that. 

Uber posts bug me because they make me feel judged that I shouldn't be in the pool to begin with, let alone exploring those depths that so intrigue me and draw me in.  (I am SO not a guppy, damn it! lol) 

Bunny posts ... well, I just skip over the urges for safety and the SSC talk, etc.  It's just not applicable to how I live my life.. 

But the thing to remember is - these are my reactions to posts from people I've never met.  It's my own internal workings that make me respond the way that I do - not their fault for posting their points of view.  I don't like to be told that I'm not real/true/valid because my experiences don't match with theirs, but hey, what am I gonna do?  Sigh and move on...



A lot of these people are just drama whore sadists who get off on the reactions.

And they play the crowd SO well-and you all let them.

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:34:02 AM   
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And they play the crowd SO well-and you all let them.



You are absolutely right.

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:36:10 AM   
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Sometimes - it's like this.
Including the bad sets - and acting.
 
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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:37:58 AM   
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I've had people come up to me after play and say that they have a "whole new RESPECT" for me now that they got to see me play. Wtf? You're going to respect me because my nerve pathways are different than yours and I process pain differently than you and can take more of it than you? Good God, I don't want anyone's respect or admiration for THAT.

LOL... I am pretty sure that is just a sort of shy way of expressing they either think you are hot or they think you are brave.  I have to admit that when I see those National Geographic specials about the people who put bone-needles with long cords on them through their flesh then hang from them, I have to think "Wow, those people are really hardcore."  Yeah, I respect them for that.  It does not mean I think the person holding the camera is a pussy because they are not up there hanging with the rest of them, though.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
Why? Why would anyone look up to someone or look down upon someone because of such a thing?

Jealousy.  or fear, maybe.  I wonder if the less extreme among us think that when someone posts about some scene they did that is far beyond the hard limits of the reader, that somehow raises the bar.  I can't honestly say if it does or not.  Yes, I admit I am going to think "Ooohh... that person might be fun to play with!"  If I read about a sub who wants to have their arm torn off and be beaten about the head and torso with it, but that does not mean I also think I would be more compatible with that person than I know I am with Mine, who is only just starting to warm to the caress of a cane.  I extreme play is a fantasy, a desire, not a need.  A strong healthy relationship is a need.  I rank the latter far above the former in choosing a partner.



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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:39:24 AM   
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Damn Bunnies.

Although I suppose this could be the reason...lack of sex bunnies

the.dark.



OMG... I Love these Bunny Video links!  You might be onto something with the lack of sex Bunnies.

I was think along the lines of http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=devil+bunny

The Buffy one had me laughing my ass off, when it broke into the Bunnies bit... Thank you!!

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:41:08 AM   
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And they play the crowd SO well-and you all let them.



You are absolutely right.



Hence my remark about Devil Bunnies playing along well with them!!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=devil+bunny

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RE: The "Ubers" - 8/15/2008 11:42:29 AM   
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The resumes people provide on CM profile should be taken with less value than a grain of salt. The pontifications on the threads - two grains. The most careful and diligent get hurt. The most evil and sadistic have cried from emotional anguish. The most conscientious make mistakes; sometimes - 'shit happens!'

Emote, communicate, you don't understand ask and ask again and again until you do. The 'uber' anything is a myth. 'Masters' and 'slaves' are mythical creatures equivalent to unicorns. Their value is between the people using them in a relationship. A relationship that can be as casual as a 'munch friend' or 'cyber fuck buddy'; to a life committed partner. If your label is challenges and you have an emotional. outburst from that challenge; it speaks to your insecurity not the challenger's lack of knowledge or experience.

Regarding 'safety'; many know of how beth and I met. Going from 0 to warp speed in a few hours. Some minutes of those hours were spent on a very remote cliff nearby where she lived. We went there after driving through town, having a drink, and her making her 'safe-call'; as I instructed her to do. Although 99% of me was totally enthralled by her and 99% of my thoughts were about getting someplace where we could be alone the other 1% was thinking; 'how silly and foolish this woman is, being here in a remote area with me. There was nothing and no one stopping me from doing anything I wanted!' No 'safe-word', or scream for that matter, would have been heard by anyone other than a wandering bear or cougar. Conversely she could have pulled a gun out of her purse.

My problem with safety is that there is no safe word, deed, or protection that can eliminate all 'what if...' That being the case - go out and enjoy life, have FUN, and protect yourself the best you can.

Meanwhile, however, 'uber' or not - the CM experience is enter tainting.


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