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colouredin -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 4:08:00 PM)

I always thought Misogyny was the hatred of women, if so why would a male want to exchange power with someone they hated? unless they were super masochistic, mind you that can happen.




Paulnz -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 4:13:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Madame4a

when I did a check on it, online and my real live paper dictionary, it included "fear or .. hatred" in the definition



My pocket Oxford:-

misogamy, misogyny. Hatred of marriage, of women.

Online; http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/misogyny




Paulnz -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 4:15:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

The thing is, the men that are writing to me are STARTING from  a position of spite! 


MizSexyVixen answered that one. They anticipate rejection.




thishereboi -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 4:21:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

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ORIGINAL: corysub

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Not me, I hate men.  They should all die.[>:]


Gulps!.....Now that is really intense and pretty specific.  ALL means no exceptions..A planet of just woman...God, what I would give to be the "last man standing"....  :)

Anyway, with respect to the question, from a subbies point of view, many of the guys here don't seem to really
understand the D/s lifestyle, equate "woman on top" as him submissive, or are just trolling the net for fun and perversion.  That also goes for the big percentage of men masked as woman here and on most other venues like
Activewords or Second Life.  I think a true subbie/slave being misogynistic is an oxymoron...and impossible to comprehend...at least from my end of the leash.




[:D]  See how fun it is?  

I don't want them all to DIE, then who would I fuck? 


Ya know, I wondered that very thing when I read your post. I mean masturbating is fun and all, but every once in a while a real person makes sex that much better and you being straight and all....well I wouldn't be able to help.




Venatrix -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 4:42:23 PM)

FR - By and large the correspondence I've received from submissive men has been lovely.  Some of it is a little desperate ("Please let me chop my balls off to prove my devotion to you"), and I did get one making a comment about my fake breasts (they aren't, for the record), but the person admitted in a subsequent email that he just felt like acting up and apologised. 

In general, I adore submissive men, though admittedly some days I adore them more than others.  A lot of dominant men can be real arseholes, but so long as they stay on Gor and don't mess up my planet, I'm fine.  I don't think we need to kill off the lot of 'em.




RumpusParable -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 4:42:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Madame4a

Why do I notice this in male subs?  Is this your experience?

Where does it come from?

Its scary when I see it -- displayed here in the forums and its often clear in email I receive.

Why do male subs think I'm going to find OVERT misogyny appealing?

By the way, if you don't know what it means, look it up.

Its bugging the crap out of me today with some of the recent posts I've read.

If you're feeling that way, you likely don't belong in a situation where you are seeking a woman to have power over you, got it?


There is a large, strong theme of misogyny in submissive males that I've seen compared to males-in-general.  Purely anecdotal, admittedly, but it's a glaringly high ratio in my experiences online and off.  I think, perhaps, it may be due to two things that occur both separately and together:

Misogynists tend to see females as usable items, things, for their pleasure only, of weak will and/or mental capacity in comparison to a male and apply this to the eroticism of female domination as a subset of the female-as-whore complex... the domina exists only as a whip-wielder/fantasy-item, not as a person.  This is often seen as the nastiness or outright explosion that occurs when the female(s) in question don't conform to the fantasy-item role, as cmail and these boards often give examples of. 

It also shows itself in submissive-role-as-manipulation taken on by some males, where control over a female is desired but without the personal strength or honesty of approaching it directly; they pursue a female that will allow them to be in charge, controlling her role, behavior, words, etc. but at the same time leaving her as scapegoat for any relationship failings or flaws.  Again this changes to overt displays of their true thoughts and feelings when brought up against females that will not be used in such a manner.




MySweetSubmssive -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 4:55:01 PM)

I'm not willing to say that I see this in submissive males, carte blanche.  I do see it in more fantasy-based men who get in touch, and also from a LOT of female supremacy lovers (which strikes me as incredibly ironic).  Men in these subsets want to idealize me to the extent that I am less a person and more a cardboard cut out for them to hang their fantasies on.  They want to put me on a pedestal, but are unwilling to be courteous person-to-person.

So, yeah, I've run into some of that.  *smiling*

Mss




Untouched1282 -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 4:57:54 PM)

They're not really subs? Not fakers, but possibly Doms, trying to force the hand of a strong woman? "HAHAA YOu're FAKE, PROVE ME WRONG (with pictures and by doing what I want you to do)". It's faux Domming from the bottom, IMO




AAkasha -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 4:58:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MySweetSubmssive

I'm not will to say that I see this in submissive males, carte blanche.  I do see it in more fantasy-based men who get in touch, and also from a LOT of female supremacy lovers (which strikes me as incredibly ironic).  Men in these subsets want to idealize me to the extent that I am less a person and more a cardboard cut out for them to hang their fantasies on.  They want to put me on a pedestal, but are unwilling to be courteous person-to-person.

So, yeah, I've run into some of that.  *smiling*

Mss


So is it possible to correct this behavior - or are men who are like this destined to remain that way?
Anyone successful convert such a man into a great partner?

Akasha




MySweetSubmssive -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 5:01:29 PM)

I wouldn't spend time trying to change this behavior.  It's part of his integral mindset of how he sees himself and me.   A few years ago I lived in Japan, and someone was trying to explain how Japanese view Americans and other foreigners.  He said, "Foreigners are shit, and Americans are holy shit."  That translates beautifully to the dynamic with a mysogynist "submissive."  Yurp.

Mss

I cannot edit for beans today ...




E2Sweet -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 5:15:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: UmbraDomina

men are just like any other pet, they need to be trained how to act, kept in cages when they make messes on the floor, and led on a leash. Most men come partly trained, thanks to their mothers, some mothers failed to teach them basic manners, how to eat at a table, and put down the potty seat, unfortunatly these failing males are the ones who email stupid stuff to all of us.

Alexandra ~


Ughh, I just hope the quoted post was done in a tongue-and-cheek sort of way.

All I can really say is: No one who really holds these sorts of screwed-up beliefs, regardless of the excuse, will ever be accepted into in my life in any capacity... and I'm a pretty accepting person.

Edited for clarity.




rick19 -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 5:48:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: asyouwish72

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Why is it that so many women on this site have such a deep-seated hatred of men? I've been on this site for years, and now I hardly read this board because there is always some man-bashing comment somewhere. I don't know the OP at all, but most of the people I see who constantly complain about sexism are the same ones who bash men left and right, posting how we are nothing more than inferior pigs. I am not saying the OP feels this way because I do not know her, this is mostly directed to the post above me. And I know I will be called every name in the book for this post, but this is just my opinion.


The misandry forum is down the hall. :)

Obviously, you see a fair amount of writing here brutally talking down to men. I believe much of this is based on the idea that some male subs like that kind of language, although I freely admit there are probably an irreducible minority here who honestly hold all men in contempt.

For my part, though, I have never received either an unsolicited email or a response to an inquiry that was anything other than rational, thoughtful, and polite. It sounds like a number of the women here are not so fortunate in that. There's a difference between reading vicious forum posts and having stupid and crude messages waiting in your inbox. I think in that regard, men get the better end of things here.


Hey,  that was a pretty good response. You do have a point here, there are some men here who do act pretty shitty. However they are in the minority, and to blame us all for the actions of a few are wrong. I guess its just a cycle that'll never end.




rick19 -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 5:53:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: colouredin

I always thought Misogyny was the hatred of women, if so why would a male want to exchange power with someone they hated? unless they were super masochistic, mind you that can happen.


What's more scary and mind-boggling are the Dominants who want to own something they hate.




bottomboy81 -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 6:13:56 PM)

A man expressing anything unfair/wrong the dommes do = misogyny

A domme expressing anything unfair/wrong subs do = raising issues




gobsmack -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 6:14:07 PM)

Chalk it up to frustration. Lets say I spent the past week sending out hundreds of emails and dick pics to all the girls in the state and the neighboring 10 states and don't get a single response. I then email you with something like "You are so goofy looking" and you reply.... I win!




Pyrrsefanie -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 6:16:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

A man expressing anything unfair/wrong the dommes do = misogyny

A domme expressing anything unfair/wrong subs do = raising issues


Seriously, dude, if you're going to troll, shake up your gimmick a bit.  You're using the same "BLAH I R BITTARZ" thing in every snarky post.  You've mastered it, in fact.

You'd die in like a minute on the SA forums, I'll tell you that.




thishereboi -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 6:27:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

A man expressing anything unfair/wrong the dommes do = misogyny

A domme expressing anything unfair/wrong subs do = raising issues


My you are a bitter little squirt, aren't ya.

Not sure why you stay here. You have already stated in another post that 99% of the females dommes on here are bitches, so what are you hoping to accomplish.

Unless of course you are really into humiliation and enjoy being cut down in every other post...that's it isn't it?




Untouched1282 -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 6:29:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

A man expressing anything unfair/wrong the dommes do = misogyny

A domme expressing anything unfair/wrong subs do = raising issues


My you are a bitter little squirt, aren't ya.

Not sure why you stay here. You have already stated in another post that 99% of the females dommes on here are bitches, so what are you hoping to accomplish.

Unless of course you are really into humiliation and enjoy being cut down in every other post...that's it isn't it?


Maybe he likes seeing the Dommes get frusrated, angry? It's his way of forcing their hand, making them lose control?




Lynnxz -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 6:31:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie HAHAHAHA U R PALE"



Haha, for some reason I find this terribly funny.

There's been a rash of angry pouty emails lately. Lots of the type that suddenly find me to be a "Fat ugly fake whore" when I show no interest. Yayyyy, what class.

And I don't hate men, but I do like bashing them with sticks and things.




thishereboi -> RE: Misogyny? (8/26/2008 6:50:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Untouched1282

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

A man expressing anything unfair/wrong the dommes do = misogyny

A domme expressing anything unfair/wrong subs do = raising issues


My you are a bitter little squirt, aren't ya.

Not sure why you stay here. You have already stated in another post that 99% of the females dommes on here are bitches, so what are you hoping to accomplish.

Unless of course you are really into humiliation and enjoy being cut down in every other post...that's it isn't it?


Maybe he likes seeing the Dommes get frusrated, angry? It's his way of forcing their hand, making them lose control?



I suppose that could be his intent. Kinda silly the way I look at it. No one knows him in real life, so why would they take what he says seriously enough to get angry or lose control. When you get right down to it, he is only so many words on my screen and has no power over anyones emotions. I do get a laugh out of some of the replies he gets however.




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