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Owner59 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 8:58:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Barf alert: Everything negative that's being said about Gov. Palin is equally true for Senator Obama... And visa versa.lol McCain basically killed his main attack method by picking her. Good move. lol

TheHeretic -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 8:58:23 PM)
I've only read the first page so far, but I'm getting a real kick out of this thread. Every attack on Palin's lack of experience fires right back in Obama's face, with the added punch that he is the top of the ticket. And every attack on her gender (is she pretty? WTF? and O59, how much did Hillary's ass play into your support for her, before you switched to backing Barry?) shows that the Dems are still putting hatred of Repubs above every other value they trumpet. I think Palin is an excellent choice for this campaign. She's too far to the Fundy right for my personal taste, but such decisions need to be governed by the head, rather than the heart. As for her ability to assume the helm, her OJT starts in January. Job well done, Senator McCain.

Thadius -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 8:59:14 PM)
Since you want to cross post this... read that article again... Especially the question and answer. SHE WAS OKAY WITH STATE FUNDING OF THE BRIDGE, or what ever was most fiscally feasible with state funding. That sounds like if we want a bridge our state can build it. Where is the lie again?

kittinSol -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:00:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NumberSix Oh, don't get me wrong, you could be my cunt, but you have a choice now, cuint or not; not something you had before in the GOP. Ron, I would be, if only I could :-) .

cloudboy -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:02:18 PM)
quote: Ask me a specific question, not random talking points. "Obama will tax us more, Obama will hurt business, Obama wants to make us socialists". How can I point out errors when you do exactly what you claim Obama does, talk in generalities without offering any specifics of why? If you base your decisions only on brief speeches without any further research it's no wonder you don't know his "plan and direction". I do have to admit your last lines were funny though. Obama's going to kill the economy just like Clinton did. Take shelter!!

Simpleslave101 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:02:35 PM)
All I know is that I watched five women sigh a sigh of relief when McCain picked Palin. They made up their mind right then and there to vote for him. They can identify with her far more the they could Hillary. Say what you will but it will influence many. http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m8.gif

kittinSol -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:04:19 PM)
Well, this is all pretty fascinating: as I always say, "Que le meilleur gagne." Alea jacta est, we'll have the answers in two months.

Alumbrado -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:05:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado And how many of these red flags you've unearthed that the vetting team missed, are any more real or relevant than Obama's being sworn in on a Quran, or 'terrorist' middle name? Or is it OK to swallow the hype unquestioningly if it is for the 'right' side? I don't think I'm swallowing anything unquestioningly. Do you really think I am? I think it's problematic that McCain apparently didn't know her well. I think it's problematic that she seems to have lied about the investigation currently ongoing into her conduct. I think it's problematic that she is currently being investigated and is still touted as the best choice for VP. I think it's problematic that she apparently has also lied about the so-called "bridge to nowhere":The McCain campaign has been flagging this pretty aggressively this afternoon. It's a shame, then, that Palin wasn't exactly telling the truth. As TNR's Brad Plumer explained, Palin actually supported the funding for the much-derided bridge project. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_08/014466.php I think it is asking other people to swallow unquestioningly things like the 'investigation', because at this point we don't know a single bit of dirt from that investigation that didnt come from some partisan attack piece... just like the partisan attack pieces on Obama... and how many of them turned out to be fabricated, inflated or outright spun? This is a campaign of epic mudslinging and lies, and I'm treating them all from both sides with extreme skepticsm...

subtee -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:06:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius Since you want to cross post this... read that article again... Especially the question and answer. SHE WAS OKAY WITH STATE FUNDING OF THE BRIDGE, or what ever was most fiscally feasible with state funding. That sounds like if we want a bridge our state can build it. Where is the lie again? I was answering another poster...please read your own answer from the other post: 5. Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges? Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now--while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist. Why would she need congressional assistance for state funding? She wanted both... at that time.

Thadius -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:07:57 PM)
Uhm... because state legislatures decide what goes into a budget? I could be crazy and have that wrong.

Owner59 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:08:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverWulf quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: SilverWulf Wake up, kittin, your rabid hatred of the Republicans is clouding your judgement. You are wrong: I have no hatred, just a visceral dislike (for the party, I might add, not for the people) [8D] . Hatred is something I try not to practice, as a general rule: it's not conducive to a good life. Your 'visceral dislike' is coming across as something quite different and is getting even more 'visceral' as the days go on. Pot-kettle-black....

NumberSix -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:10:41 PM)
I don't think I'm swallowing anything unquestioningly. Do you really think I am? I am sure you are not because I have a vital interest in the area. I think that as hillary did, he thought it was a walk thru, and based on recent evidence, he did not have her in mind first off. So, the backroom is a little short on the vetting process... cause he dont have to fuck with hillary. Oh, oh...these chicago Gs and Thugs may have some political savvy, and they snatched his ass off the face of the earth (which is the most likely) because the 'know nothing party' is not in a position to question the right of the elephant to govern........shits going pretty good as I am told, I am sure it is a surprise to them that this backlash is pervasive. But, his little push to make a 'we are the change' has actually changed the face of the body politic forever. The adversaries on both sides must now agree that women have ideas that may transcend cunt and babies and trivial matters now and the discussion is brought to the future of us, for all time. I view it as valourous, and that is why. Ron

subtee -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:11:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado I think it is asking other people to swallow unquestioningly things like the 'investigation', because at this point we don't know a single bit of dirt from that investigation that didnt come from some partisan attack piece... just like the partisan attack pieces on Obama... and how many of them turned out to be fabricated, inflated or outright spun? This is a campaign of epic mudslinging and lies, and I'm treating them all from both sides with extreme skepticsm... I'm not asking anyone to swallow anything. I have quoted from the Washington Post, MSNBC and Washington Monthly.

SilverWulf -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:12:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 quote: ORIGINAL: SilverWulf quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: SilverWulf Wake up, kittin, your rabid hatred of the Republicans is clouding your judgement. You are wrong: I have no hatred, just a visceral dislike (for the party, I might add, not for the people) [8D] . Hatred is something I try not to practice, as a general rule: it's not conducive to a good life. Your 'visceral dislike' is coming across as something quite different and is getting even more 'visceral' as the days go on. Pot-kettle-black.... Show us all where I have blindly attacked anything and everything regarding the Democrats, no matter what the issue.

kittinSol -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:15:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverWulf Show us all where I have blindly attacked anything and everything regarding the Democrats, no matter what the issue. Well, there's me... but it's okay, really [&:] .

Thadius -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:15:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado I think it is asking other people to swallow unquestioningly things like the 'investigation', because at this point we don't know a single bit of dirt from that investigation that didnt come from some partisan attack piece... just like the partisan attack pieces on Obama... and how many of them turned out to be fabricated, inflated or outright spun? This is a campaign of epic mudslinging and lies, and I'm treating them all from both sides with extreme skepticsm... I'm not asking anyone to swallow anything. I have quoted from the Washington Post, MSNBC and Washington Monthly. MSNBC, the news channel that today during the introduction flashed the Breaking News Headline of "How many houses does this add to the McCain ticket?" [8\|]

subtee -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:16:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius Uhm... because state legislatures decide what goes into a budget? I could be crazy and have that wrong. She still wanted the bridge and she still wanted federal help. You read it, yes? "So she was very much for the bridge and insisted that Alaska had to act quickly—the party of Ted Stevens and Don Young might soon lose its majority, after all. By that point, the project was endangered for reasons that had nothing to do with Palin—the bridge had become a national laughingstock, Congress had stripped away the offending earmark, shifting the money back to the state's general fund, and future federal support seemed unlikely. True, after Palin was sworn into office that fall, her first budget didn't allocate any money for the bridge. But when the Daily News asked on December 16, 2006, if she now opposed the project, Palin demurred and said she was just trying to figure out where the bridge fit on the state's list of transportation priorities, given the lack of support from Congress."

SilverWulf -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:18:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: SilverWulf Show us all where I have blindly attacked anything and everything regarding the Democrats, no matter what the issue. Well, there's me... but it's okay, really [&:] . Ok, where and when did I attack you? I recall answering and responding to questions, not attacking.

subtee -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:18:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NumberSix I don't think I'm swallowing anything unquestioningly. Do you really think I am? I am sure you are not because I have a vital interest in the area. [snip] Ron Okay, I admit.I have been known to swallow things unquestioningly. [;)]

NumberSix -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:21:19 PM)
LOL, Thad... Perhaps as an unintended consequence you will have to deal with 8 years of me cranking on your ass. Yanno, Fox news left first place a long time ago, MSNBC has never been a player other than for the weak minded, CNN and BBC are more where people find unbiased (as unbiased as it gets) news now. enough for now

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