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cloudboy -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:57:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverWulf quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Judging from this picture, Palin is ready to serve alongside McCain..... So, she is in a picture with 6 previous Alaska Governors, big deal. She also placed second in the Miss Alaska Beauty Pagent, is that going to be the next attack? Pssst, it was a joke about McCain.....

NumberSix -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:57:29 PM)
We are much like the state of New York, there is the big Twin Cities and outstate. Next week, the republican national convention comes here. What I want to know, is how much all you fucking republicans are giving of your own free will so that guys like me are not burdened in any way taxwise because of the extra cops we gotta put out there at the airport to keep you from sucking each other off in the bathrooms out there. We in the outstate have democratic family values, something you lip service but don't posess. There is no issue here about oil, or the VP candidate from Alaska, they haven't a fucking wisp of a chance at winning the election. We did our part, do yours, send money so I don't have to watch you do your lip jobbing in public. 6

cloudboy -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:58:19 PM)
quote: (CNN) — John McCain first met Sarah Palin only six months ago and had just one conversation with the Alaska governor before offering her the vice presidential slot on the Republican ticket, the Arizona senator's campaign said Friday. Good thing she wasn't around when Bill Clinton needed a VP.......

subtee -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:59:12 PM)
We are sending some cops to you; reciprocation for yours coming here to help us with the floods.

Owner59 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:59:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Happy(ier) now? About what? That there are hypocrites on both sides? I knew that when you were strenuously denying it months ago. You latest flip-flop in pursuit of something to hate is of no concern to me. Dude,talk about hate. Smoke and rage flies out`a your emocon. Heal thy self.... lol

slvemike4u -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:00:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado quote: Wether or not any of these charges prove true ,these issues are out there and should have been enough to lead a prudent and less arrogant candidate to choose another running-mate.. One with no such 'charges' out there? And who might that be, that the other side couldn't find a single thing, true or untrue, to mudsling with? So discussing an actual investigation is now akin to mud-slinging Al ?

Alumbrado -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:07:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee Don't you think her painting herself as a maverick and saying: "And I championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. In fact, I told Congress -- I told Congress, "Thanks, but no thanks," on that bridge to nowhere."at least to be disingenuous? A politician who was ambivalent on an issue? Disingenuous? Say it isn't so! And a thespian to boot... Same question as above... who do you have in mind that McCain should have picked without the least bit of mud (true or untrue) attached to their name to live up to the illustrious examples set by Quayle, Agnew, etc? And who should Obama have picked besides Biden? The people their opponents want them to pick? Again, it's political mudslinging, not real life, and it doesn't matter which side slings it, it isn't worth falling for... to give any credence to these assertions until they are fully vetted, is to make the same mistake you are faulting McCain for...leaping without looking. Between now and November the pile of BS from both sides is going to grow until it blocks out the sun... and there isn't enough syrup in the world to persaude me to swallow any of it. YMMV.

subtee -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:09:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado The 'investigation' into her abusing her office to fire her ex brother in law is falling apart faster than a cheap suit. Why would the union lie to cover for her? The 'only met with McCain 1 or 2 times' is a red herring. The 'lied about the bridge' is spin... Nothing about accepting those as showing her unsuitablility to hold the office held by Dan Quayle and Spiro Agnew, is anything remotely resembling my definiton of skepticism. The investigation is falling apart? As I understand it, a bipartisan investigation has been tasked and given $100,00 to pursue it. In what way is it falling apart? CNN reports McCain met her once. I find that alarming, but no one else has to. She said today in her speech (transcripts all over the internets) that she turned down the fed money for the bridge. She didn't. It had already been removed. That's spin? I have yet to say anything delcarative about her suitability. I've expressed concerns and asked questions.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:11:42 PM)
Tell me, Thadius, just how is Biden tied to Rezco? "Biden Tied to Rezko Fraud Figure Vice-Presidential Candidate's Former Campaign Advisor and Fundraiser Aided Kickback Scheme" Guilt by association? Yet another red herring, looks like. Meanwhile, back at the Wasilla ranch, seems Miss Sarah tried to steal some land... "At the end of her mayorship, Palin was behind the construction of the Wasilla Multi-Use Sports Complex, a $15 million multi-use indoor ice arena, as her legacy. However, developer Gary Lundgren acquired the land before Palin could. Without the deed, Palin decided to build the arena there anyway, and attempted to acquire the land through eminent domain, but a federal appeals court ruled in favor of Lundgren. The case is in the process of being resolved in the courts. It will cost Wasilla at least an additional $1.67 million to acquire the land and Wasilla is still attempting to cover the budget shortfall by cutting library services, postponing capital improvement projects, and raising fees." from Wikipedia Wow. White elephant projects and attempted theft by Eminent Domain? Ruh-roh.

Thadius -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:14:29 PM)
quote: She said today in her speech (transcripts all over the internets) that she turned down the fed money for the bridge. She didn't. It had already been removed. That's spin? Stevens was still trying to get it funded and refunded... I think that is the part that you are missing in the picture.

Owner59 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:21:29 PM)
I think you`ve been spanked,again Al. This time, by a girl. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyway.... This is getting a lot of play . Hilarious. This is their wise choice?!?

Alumbrado -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:23:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado quote: Wether or not any of these charges prove true ,these issues are out there and should have been enough to lead a prudent and less arrogant candidate to choose another running-mate.. One with no such 'charges' out there? And who might that be, that the other side couldn't find a single thing, true or untrue, to mudsling with? So discussing an actual investigation is now akin to mud-slinging Al ? Yeah 'mi', promoting lies such as the one about her firing her brother in law from his job as a state trooper is political mudslinging. I see you can't answer the question though. I also notice a lot of overall tap dancing around the obvious question of why would the labor union lie in order to help a Republican governor do such a thing? That 'investigation' is remarkably short on facts, for people to be drawing such broad conclusions. I'll also note that you and Owner were full of snarky comments and dishonest debate fallacies when I was refusing to swallow the same sort of lies about Obama. Certainly gives the appearance of not giving a damn about anything except trying to get others to swallow BS as fact, just because you say it is so. As above, feel free to fall for any of it you wish, from either side, and if you get others to buy it, too bad for them... that still isn't going to get me to abandon my skepticism of all things political.

subtee -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:24:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius quote: She said today in her speech (transcripts all over the internets) that she turned down the fed money for the bridge. She didn't. It had already been removed. That's spin? Stevens was still trying to get it funded and refunded... I think that is the part that you are missing in the picture. I don't think I'm missing it. She wasn't against the "bridge to nowhere," nor was she against the earmarks to achieve it. When they took it away she said she was trying to find a place for it in the state's priorities and then, finally, gave up.

Thadius -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:24:30 PM)
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-biden28-2008aug28,0,5223324.story

SilverWulf -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:28:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 I think you`ve been spanked,again Al. This time, by a girl. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyway.... This is getting a lot of play . Hilarious. This is their wise choice?!? Red Herring, totally irrelevant. Next.

Alumbrado -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:29:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 I think you`ve been spanked,again Al. This time, by a girl. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyway.... This is getting a lot of play . Hilarious. This is their wise choice?!? Fascinating that you consider relying on sophistry to be a victory. Not surprising in light of your track record, just fascinating.

Owner59 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:31:18 PM)
Get back to us when there`s a full on investigation. Where`s Al and the "Fairness Act" when you need them.[;)] Do you really think bringing on someone with ongoing investigations was a good idea? Did the vetters and McCain also think this was not big deal? This guy wants to be POTUS?

Thadius -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:35:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius quote: She said today in her speech (transcripts all over the internets) that she turned down the fed money for the bridge. She didn't. It had already been removed. That's spin? Stevens was still trying to get it funded and refunded... I think that is the part that you are missing in the picture. I don't think I'm missing it. She wasn't against the "bridge to nowhere," nor was she against the earmarks to achieve it. When they took it away she said she was trying to find a place for it in the state's priorities and then, finally, gave up. She wasn't elected until 2006, and didn't take office until December... explain to me what she had to do with the 2006 budget as claimed by your blogger? The new fiscal year doesn't start until July in Alaska.... see where this is going? The dates the blogger is using do not fall in line with any kind of transferring of funds, or her having anything to do with the Federal dollars for the bridge, that money was gone prior to her taking office, she was asked prior to the election if she still supported state funding of the project and what was her response? After she took office, she clearly stated that the state would figure out the most fiscally responsible way of increasing transport to the island, with her recommending increasing the ferry service. Meanwhile Sen Stevens was still lobbying for funding (like he always has) and trying to get the bridge project reupped. To which she said no thanks. Is that a little clearer? Or is the info the blogger provided more believable because of who it is targeted at?

Owner59 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:37:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverWulf quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 I think you`ve been spanked,again Al. This time, by a girl. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyway.... This is getting a lot of play . Hilarious. This is their wise choice?!? Red Herring, totally irrelevant. Next. So irrelevent,you just had to respond.lol FYI,it doesn`t look good. Looks pretty bad really and it`s getting a lot of hits on Youtube.

Thadius -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 10:39:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Get back to us when there`s a full on investigation. Where`s Al and the "Fairness Act" when you need them.[;)] Do you really think bringing on someone with ongoing investigations was a good idea? Did the vetters and McCain also think this was not big deal? This guy wants to be POTUS? I am just curious why this is an issue, seeing as those other issues were not brought up about Biden and his vetting process. Know what I mean? Singular investigation. One that may or may not bear fruit. I might add that even the Senator who is the daughter of the Gov that got ousted by Palin is defending Palin on this one... go figure.

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