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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

McCain is a gambler. He's not afraid to take risks and swim against the current. That is why independant voters love the guy and why this election is as close as it is. If this was any other Republican, Obama would win a Reagan-like landslide and would be a an embarrassing loss for the GOP. But because McCain is in the race and shows he still has that mavrick streak to take a risk when needed, the independants (the swing voters who will determine this election) are giving him serious consideration.

And I think it is funny how some Democrats are totally surprised and shocked he picked Palin and think it was a desperate move. This was planned for weeks. McCain has been setting up the chess board in his favor for the past 3 weeks and the Dems fell in the trap. First he ran ads for weeks targetted specifically to get Hillary Clinton voters to think. The polls started to give McCain the lead in the run up to the DNC Convention. The Democrats then were forced to shift their primary convention strategy from attacking Bush and McCain to doing damage control with women voters. They paraded Hillary around the convention under the disguise of "party unity." Now McCain knocks Obama's speech off the headlines by dropping a bombshell of adding a woman to the ticket. The fact she is socially conservative will make the base happy. And now the GOP will go full assult on Obama and try to get those Clinton voters and independants during their convention.

Many Democrats dont see it, and those that do dont want to admit it, but they were outflanked and got beat by strategy pretty bad.

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

I know, just a gimmick.

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However, if you're trying to convince others of the righteousness of your opinions, it would be far more effective to be a little more detached about 'factual info'.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

        Lots of hackery and spin, in that link, O59.  "Reason #1:  He's Desperate."  If this is the kind of decision McC might make in a desperate moment, I want him taking the 3:00 am call.

  (Just for the record, I did predict she would be the one last week.  This little trooper mess will vanish quickly if no laws were broken.  I like her, "hold me accountable" approach.)

    Sarah Palin is everything Barack Obama tries and claims to be, except, instead of talking it, she does it.  Barack saw a problem he wanted to help solve, and became a community organizer who didn't accomplish very much.  Sarah got herself elected to the city council, then as mayor/manager of the community where she saw a problem, and did well enough to get herself appointed up the ladder.  Barack rose high enough to encounter the slime layer in politics, and somehow aquired a nicer yard for his ___'s to play in.  Sarah brought down the corruption she encountered.  Obama's experience?  Legislative, and on committees.  Palin's?  Executive and committee chairs.

       Obama talks about moving beyond partisanship, Palin brought down members of her own party. 

      Fundamentalist Christian?  Yep.  Wanna talk about Jeremiah Wright some more?  That's why we have a First Amendment and a Supreme Court.  Pro-life?  That too, but she walks the walk with it, and knew her youngest would be born with Down's Syndrome.  Reagan and both Bushes were pro-life too, and, gee, abortion is still legal and safe.

    Who cares what the environmental extremists think of her?  Are they going to vote Republican under any circumstances, anyway?

     I think she is a good pick strategically, as well, for exactly the reasons we are seeing in these Palin threads.   First, the Dems are betraying everything they were saying about the struggle for gender equality a few days ago.  "Is she pretty", comes right after '18 million cracks in the glass'???"  It's quick enough for even the slower voters to see the hypocrisy. 

    And then there is the trap the Dems are falling right into, attacking her youth and short experience.  Hello!  Both are smart, passionate, rising stars, but one is running for intern, and one wants to be CEO.  Everything they say, will blow right back onto their own ticket. 

    And then there is the aspect that mostly gets talked about after hours, with the batteries pulled out of the cell phone.  The rascist vote, and half of them are women.   I'm not talking about the KKK, but the honest, hard-working, otherwise pretty decent folk, with a low opinion of black people in general, even if it manifests in  handouts and pity.   Obama's nomination is creating some conflict there, and a woman on the R ticket might be just the rationalization they need. 


     Let's not forget that the Republicans still get their prime-time speeches.  If the cards are played just right, the race could be over next weekend, and Sarah Palin will be elevated to the ultimate school of governance in January.


         add:  One more thing it says about McCain.  He can pull off a covert op, while Obama can't.  In the sort of war we are in, that's an important thing to know.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

LMAO!
The Lefties are in ~PANIC~ mode now!

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

Okay, let's try a different topic.  Since I know you are passionate about women being treated with equality.

Why is it that Obama is claiming to support equal pay for equal work, yet refuses to do so in his own senate office or on his campaign staff?

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

Funny, I don't feel the least bit paniced.

I really think this pick for VP is going to backfire on McCain, like a shotgun that's had the barrel bent into an "L." The woman seems nice enough, but she's a total neophyte. Add to this the only women she seems capable of attracting are hardline PUMA's and Ann Coulter clones....

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ORIGINAL: Simpleslave101

Funny..seems everyone I talked to is excited about the McCain VP pick. They all appear to be relieved.

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Do you have any evidence that Obama refuses to support equal pay for equal work? The piece from which you pulled the quote doesn't suggest any such thing. It speaks strictly to pay, not to what was entailed in earning that pay.

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ORIGINAL: Simpleslave101

Funny..seems everyone I talked to is excited about the McCain VP pick. They all appear to be relieved.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Can`t wait till republicans realize with they`ve been sold.

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Actually, the statistics themselves are the suggestion.

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Similar statistics have been used to prove income and hiring discrimination.

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Look at the question another way:  Why are the lower-paid jobs on Obama's staff held by women while the higher-paid jobs held by men?  Which is something the article does establish rather emphatically.

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

Funny, I don't feel the least bit paniced.

I really think this pick for VP is going to backfire on McCain, like a shotgun that's had the barrel bent into an "L." The woman seems nice enough, but she's a total neophyte. Add to this the only women she seems capable of attracting are hardline PUMA's and Ann Coulter clones....

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I'm not sure where you're getting that from either. You haven't take into account (nor did the article) the number of hours/days worked by individuals, any bonus or other compensation, job description or any of the other criteria which would clearly indicate a discriminatory pay scale.

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ORIGINAL: Simpleslave101

Funny..seems everyone I talked to is excited about the McCain VP pick. They all appear to be relieved.