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popeye1250 -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 6:54:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

Just curious if a $10 Billion budget, and 24,000 employees are insignificant, in terms of managing something?


Thad, I think that that would qualify as CEO experience.




servantforuse -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 6:58:16 PM)

Does this mean that Nancy Polosi who has 5 children should not be speaker of the house? Maybe she should be back home baking cookies...




Thadius -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 7:01:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

Just curious if a $10 Billion budget, and 24,000 employees are insignificant, in terms of managing something?


Thad, I think that that would qualify as CEO experience.


Well that is what a particular VP candidate has been doing as Gov of Alaska.

Just sayin.[;)]




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 7:32:42 PM)

Pro coathanger.




THELADY -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 7:43:55 PM)

Come on Women.....how many families havent had a unplanned pregency .......It happened to me, my mom was at home and very good to Me ....it happened to my daughter, and I was home with her, we very close, granted she was 18, barely, but still it happened!! she used birthvcontrol, but didnt listen when the doc told her antibiotics interfeared with the pill, I have a beautiful granddaughter.  She did not marry the sperm donor (worthless scumbag)  but married a man 2 years later and now I also have a wonderful grandson!!
Many do not know it but  Mccain knew about her daughter and chose her anyhow!! I cannot belive Women would say another Woman should not presue her career ,,,,,, Wow, here I thought  that all the things women had gone thru till now was so we would have a choice, And When has man ever been asked to give up a job because of their kids? How Dare anyone judge Palin in such a way!!!




cloudboy -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 7:44:34 PM)

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Nope. If I was cashing checks from the McCain campaign, that's the same advice I'd have given them. Look how terrified the Dems and Lefties are. They are practically frothing at the mouth, lashing out frantically, with one vicious attack after another, and that is going to splash right back on Barry. I've already posted about that.

Now, might I be wrong? Sure. Watch her speech. We'll see how she does. I think she's goes to blow a lot of people away, especially if she grabs that "18 million cracks" line.


Glad born-again Christians inspire you so. Do you see any irony in your own concern over Islamic Fundamentalists?




Sanity -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 7:45:42 PM)

Kicks ass




cankles -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 7:46:09 PM)

Great cans




chiaThePet -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 8:34:18 PM)

 
Future President.

chia* (the pet)




DomKen -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 8:44:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber
Mayor of "FrozenMooseDick" Alaska, Pop. 9000 (or, if you prefer, about 1/4 of the number of people who were at the DNC last week)

    Still more executive experience than Obama has, and in a direct and hands on way.
 

No. That's not quite true. Illinois Project Vote! in 1992 involved running a larger organization than the Wasilla city government. The logistics of registering in excess of 150,000 previously unregistered residents of Illinois was no small task. That's roughly a quarter of Alaska's entire population for sake of comparison.

This campaign also has to be considered executive experience. He decided who to hire and who to listen to. Simply handling all the internet contributions is a significant undertaking. Then consider his organization campaigned in every state and territory during the primary season, a previously unheard of situation. There haven't been many embarassing revelations and subsequent dismissals of senior campaign staff which is not just a hallmark of McCain's campaign but is essentially de riguer for presidential campaigns during my lifetime. Delegating authority to well chosen subordinates is a trait I certainly look for in a boss, looked for in CO's while in the service and is an important factor in my evaluations of political candidates.



      I don't know any of the particulars of that voter registration drive, Ken, but I've been involved with similar sorts of operations.  That would qualify him as 'project manager.'  Is that 150,000 the total number of signed sheets turned in, or the valid ones?  What was the ratio on that?  Did he have a volunteer organization, or paid?  What was the source of the funding, and was an audit ever conducted?  Did he have oversight with payroll and procurement?

      Now I'll certainly grant you that running a successful primary campaign against Hillary amounted to something more than the duties of a small-town mayor.  Ooh.  Ya got me.  How does that stack up to bringing down an incumbent governor, and running a state herself?


      And let's all remember here, folks, we are comparing the intern slot on one ticket, to the CEO slot on another.  The Dems should have woken up to that by now, but I keep getting that variable wrong.

I'm not sure the number of valid ones is known for sure. Some estimates for formas submitted are as high as 400k. The staff was a small paid core with a large group of volunteers. He managed the fundraising. The national Project Vote! likely knows if an audit was carried out. No accusations have ever been made.

Actually this was about you making an inappropriate claim and now refusing to simply acknowledge that it was in error. It is quite clear the mayor of Wasilla Alaska is not a bigger executive position than ones Obama has held and does hold.

If you want to argue Alaska state governor then you may have a case but then I get to point out the essentially unlimited budget, ethics issues and other issues with her time as governor which makes it clear she is not up to now shown any great aptitude for the executive position.




TheHeretic -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 8:47:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Glad born-again Christians inspire you so. Do you see any irony in your own concern over Islamic Fundamentalists?



            Not one single bit, Clouds.  Not even a nice try.




slvemike4u -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 8:53:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: THELADY

Come on Women.....how many families havent had a unplanned pregency .......It happened to me, my mom was at home and very good to Me ....it happened to my daughter, and I was home with her, we very close, granted she was 18, barely, but still it happened!! she used birthvcontrol, but didnt listen when the doc told her antibiotics interfeared with the pill, I have a beautiful granddaughter.  She did not marry the sperm donor (worthless scumbag)  but married a man 2 years later and now I also have a wonderful grandson!!
Many do not know it but  Mccain knew about her daughter and chose her anyhow!! I cannot belive Women would say another Woman should not presue her career ,,,,,, Wow, here I thought  that all the things women had gone thru till now was so we would have a choice, And When has man ever been asked to give up a job because of their kids? How Dare anyone judge Palin in such a way!!!
I do hope you realise the irony of using the word choice in your post!!!




FirmhandKY -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 9:05:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

 
Future President.

chia* (the pet)



Ditto. [:)]

Firm




Owner59 -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 9:08:51 PM)

 

Troopergate investigation.

Abuses power.

Burn,err....Ban books.

Where`s Iraq?

Nice ass.

bin-laden who?

Alaska independence.

Tim Stevens

Ultra conservative.

Took earmarks.

Alaska First.

Abstinence only.

Yellow snow.

Wank fodder.

Fundamentalist extremist.

Beautiful family.

Mediocre speaker.

God`s pipeline.

Iraq stay.

Just briefed.

Big oil.

Sorry folks,gotta cram`m.




slvemike4u -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 9:11:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet


Future President.

chia* (the pet)



Ditto. [:)]

Firm
While she makes for an appealing (looking) candidate and an effective speaker,she holds dear too many fringe beliefs to ever be anything but a "gimmick'pick for VP.Forced to withstand a nominating process these fringe beliefs would quickly derail any run she would make....




TheHeretic -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 10:09:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Actually this was about you making an inappropriate claim and now refusing to simply acknowledge that it was in error. It is quite clear the mayor of Wasilla Alaska is not a bigger executive position than ones Obama has held and does hold.




            I said, "ooh, ya got me," Ken, when I agreed that being a small-town mayor by itself was not a higher executive position than being head of his primary campaign.  Am I supposed to cut off a pinkie or something? 

       Interesting how you insist I admit a bit of poetic license, while you cling to the foolish, delusionary argument that his community organizer role makes him more than a smooth talker who got people to give him money that may have never been accounted for.  Will you try to expand that to say running his campaign is more valid executive experience than running a state?




bestbabync -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 10:19:25 PM)

President Palin




cloudboy -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 11:29:39 PM)

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Not one single bit, Clouds. Not even a nice try.


Its two sides of the same coin. Different God, same religious mind set.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/3/2008 11:41:15 PM)

Wow.  The media keeps talking about "independents."  Yet I didn't seen a single "independent" in this entire thread.  Is there anyone here who hasn't already decided how he or she is going to vote?

Cuz...if not...this is like the "My father has a bigger dick than you" games that we used to play in elementary school.




chiaThePet -> RE: Palin: Two Words.. (9/4/2008 12:01:26 AM)

 
Well, I really liked Palin, but not sold on her running mate quite yet.

Hmmmmmm, we used to play T-Ball and Soccer.

But I quess things would have been different on the Serengeti.

chia* (the pet)




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