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Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 5:23:22 AM   
MistressStiletto


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Status: offline 		I am a switch exploring my dominant tendencies. I have topped in extended scenes, but never in a 24/7 situation. The Alpha Master has agreed that I should look for a slave of my own, either male, female, or couple. That part doesn't concern Him much, as long as the individual(s) have the right mental mindset.

He mentioned last night that if there was a male slave in the house, not only would it compromise my position as a Mistress to fuck him, but also to french kiss him. He says that would put a crack in the structure.

For those beautiful Ladies who have male slaves, what do you think of this idea? Do you think your slave sees you as less than Dominant if you kiss them, or share other acts of intimacy with them?

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 5:30:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		How would it compromise your position to kiss a male slave, but not a female?




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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 5:32:05 AM   
MistressStiletto


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Status: offline 		According to Him, the male mindset would let them feel that they are getting the upper hand, or special priviledges that make it more of a vanilla relationship

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 5:35:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think your Alpha Master or whatever you call him... is a bit possessive and while you may like the idea of exploring your boundries ..clearly his boundaries are no touchie no fuckie the boys ... I would have a really clear discussion with him about expectations and limits. He probably doesnt have a problems with girls because his male position in your life would not be challenged and then there is always the ole on girl on girl thing that men have.. so he figures he will get in on that piece of tail literally and figuratively.. just my two cents .. good luck..SD

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 5:38:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Depends on how you do it, really. If you get him to sit down and watch some mushy romance movie, then kiss him all of a sudden, then he might feel that way. But if you do it while he is tied up with something up his ass, accompanied with the right words and hand actions, he will most definitely NOT feel that he has the upper hand.

That's how I will feel, at least.


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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 6:11:26 AM   
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Well, I’m screwed if it does. I kiss mine as often as I can, when I can. I fuck mine as often as I can, when I can.

He’s still a well behaved, obedient boy. So, I guess it doesn’t.

Methinks it's more to do with your Masters green-eyed monsters.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 6:13:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressStiletto

I am a switch exploring my dominant tendencies. I have topped in extended scenes, but never in a 24/7 situation. The Alpha Master has agreed that I should look for a slave of my own, either male, female, or couple. That part doesn't concern Him much, as long as the individual(s) have the right mental mindset.

He mentioned last night that if there was a male slave in the house, not only would it compromise my position as a Mistress to fuck him, but also to french kiss him. He says that would put a crack in the structure.

For those beautiful Ladies who have male slaves, what do you think of this idea? Do you think your slave sees you as less than Dominant if you kiss them, or share other acts of intimacy with them?


How exactly does you getting sexual service from your property in the way you want, when you want, and for as long as you want, undermine your domination?

Using your slave is exercising your ownership by it's definition. Using him in multiple ways is wisely using all the assets you possession.

I wonder if this "alpha master" is projecting his own view of power, sex, and women onto the situation?

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 6:24:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressStiletto

For those beautiful Ladies who have male slaves, what do you think of this idea?

i have an "alpha" dominant (Daddy) and a male pet. Daddy doesn't involve Himself in any of the activities i do with my pet. that being said, He does enjoy that i'm exploring my dominant side but it doesn't put a crack in our Daddy-daughter structure.

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Do you think your slave sees you as less than Dominant if you kiss them, or share other acts of intimacy with them?

nope - my pet enjoys kissing and feeling intimate with me especially while i'm gripping, pulling, or tugging hard on his cock and balls at the same time.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 6:28:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you all for the feedback so far. He never said I couldn't engage in any sort of sexual or intimate activities with anyone in the Family, He just said that He thought it would put a crack in the M/s structure. He likened it to the Army, where if an Officer allowed a subordinate to call them by their first name the dynamic was changed.

It's a new idea, so I am glad to get outside opinions before forming my own.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 6:30:36 AM   
MsCfromMelbourne


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Status: offline 		Gosh, I think the long languid kiss of a beautiful man in bondage is one of the high points of living. 

Who are "real" Dommes supposed to have hetsex with if they do not have sex with their submissives?  Having vanilla sex with vanillas is vanilla (doh).  Having sex with a male Dominant makes you a bedroom submissive (unless the Dom switches for you ). 

The only kind of man you can dominate both in and out of bed is a male sub/slave.  

How would that crack your "structure"?  I imagine your Alpha Master does not want sexual competition from males.  But I see from your profile that you are looking for a bisexual male slave.  So the new slave can have sex with both of you.   

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 6:56:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressStiletto

Thank you all for the feedback so far. He never said I couldn't engage in any sort of sexual or intimate activities with anyone in the Family, He just said that He thought it would put a crack in the M/s structure. He likened it to the Army, where if an Officer allowed a subordinate to call them by their first name the dynamic was changed.

It's a new idea, so I am glad to get outside opinions before forming my own.



Does he allow himself to have "any sort of sexual or intimate activities" with you? Would that put a crack in the M/s structure?

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 6:59:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressStiletto

I am a switch exploring my dominant tendencies. I have topped in extended scenes, but never in a 24/7 situation. The Alpha Master has agreed that I should look for a slave of my own, either male, female, or couple. That part doesn't concern Him much, as long as the individual(s) have the right mental mindset.

He mentioned last night that if there was a male slave in the house, not only would it compromise my position as a Mistress to fuck him, but also to french kiss him. He says that would put a crack in the structure.

For those beautiful Ladies who have male slaves, what do you think of this idea? Do you think your slave sees you as less than Dominant if you kiss them, or share other acts of intimacy with them?


I don't think intimate physical acts between you and a male sub/slave imperil your dominance, as long as you are the one initiating things. You do it as you want and when you want, not when he wants.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 6:59:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Agrees with prior posters about sounds like Alpha Male is imposing his 'Veto Power' to advance his own rank.  If He's the Sargent and you're the Private... then you get a Private, that makes you the Sargent and he moves up to Major.  The more penises you have on your sleeve, or under your foot, the higher up you move. 

Personally, I do enjoy kissing my boys.  I enjoy kissing girls to, but that's another story.  I generaly do NOT have sex with my boys because I'm very into Tease & Denial.  I DO have sex with the ones that I am very fond of.  But I have to want them.  It's by no means something that I do for their pleasure alone.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 6:59:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressStiletto

Thank you all for the feedback so far. He never said I couldn't engage in any sort of sexual or intimate activities with anyone in the Family, He just said that He thought it would put a crack in the M/s structure. He likened it to the Army, where if an Officer allowed a subordinate to call them by their first name the dynamic was changed.

It's a new idea, so I am glad to get outside opinions before forming my own.



So do the same limitations apply to your alpha master and his interaction with you? No sex, no calling by first name, etc..... Because, if it doesn't, then his argument doesn't hold water.


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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 7:15:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressStiletto

I am a switch exploring my dominant tendencies. I have topped in extended scenes, but never in a 24/7 situation. The Alpha Master has agreed that I should look for a slave of my own, either male, female, or couple. That part doesn't concern Him much, as long as the individual(s) have the right mental mindset.

He mentioned last night that if there was a male slave in the house, not only would it compromise my position as a Mistress to fuck him, but also to french kiss him. He says that would put a crack in the structure.

For those beautiful Ladies who have male slaves, what do you think of this idea? Do you think your slave sees you as less than Dominant if you kiss them, or share other acts of intimacy with them?


Heck, even in the Gorean structure, which is probably one of the most male-centric slavery models that folks use, a woman is allowed to "couch" her own slave. It is up to the woman dominant to set the limits/boundaries/expectations.

Now, this being said, you are in a situation where you are someone -else's- submissive party -- which, to me, means that someone else makes the rules for -you-, even while you make the rules for your boy. With that in place, if your d-type person says "no kissie, no sex", the actual -justification- is sort of less relevant, in my mind, than the "these are the ground rules" aspect. If it is observed from that viewpoint, then the 'reason' is really 'because I said so'.

In my experience, male or female, there is no reason that a servant cannot serve sexually, be kissed, etc., as long as both parties are very clear about who is doing the serving and who is doing the controlling. I've never had an issue with it, even in less ''formalized" situations where I was the tacit controlling party in the relationship.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 7:55:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressStiletto

I am a switch exploring my dominant tendencies. I have topped in extended scenes, but never in a 24/7 situation. The Alpha Master has agreed that I should look for a slave of my own, either male, female, or couple. That part doesn't concern Him much, as long as the individual(s) have the right mental mindset.

He mentioned last night that if there was a male slave in the house, not only would it compromise my position as a Mistress to fuck him, but also to french kiss him. He says that would put a crack in the structure.

For those beautiful Ladies who have male slaves, what do you think of this idea? Do you think your slave sees you as less than Dominant if you kiss them, or share other acts of intimacy with them?


He's jealous and doesn't understand the interaction between a female dominant and a male slave. He just thinks he does. I remember once being owned by a woman who had a male dominant husband (they were equals to each other). Both of them talked about how they were so open to each other and discussed everything. One day, he and I were alone and he was curious, so he asked me what was the incentive for a male slave to be with a female dominant when there's no sex involved. How do you respond to a question like that when the real response is, "Um, your wife has been taking me on a constant basis. How can you not know that?"


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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 7:59:35 AM   
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One day, he and I were alone and he was curious, so he asked me what was the incentive for a male slave to be with a female dominant when there's no sex involved. How do you respond to a question like that when the real response is, "Um, your wife has been taking me on a constant basis. How can you not know that?"



Just a hunch, but my guess is that it slipped the aforementioned wife's mind to fill him in on that particular detail.

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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 8:36:55 AM   
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either male, female, or couple.


ya right..come on...you know he wants you to get a female...they all do this.
which is why he is having trouble knowing you got a male.  he obviously wanted a fantasy fullfilled that your not doing because you didnt get a female.

well...TOO BAD FOR HIM.  he said it can be any gender.  so i laugh at him...


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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 8:39:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressStiletto
He mentioned last night that if there was a male slave in the house, not only would it compromise my position as a Mistress to fuck him, but also to french kiss him. He says that would put a crack in the structure.

For those beautiful Ladies who have male slaves, what do you think of this idea? Do you think your slave sees you as less than Dominant if you kiss them, or share other acts of intimacy with them?


No, this is not a matter of "undermining your dominance," this is a matter of he's a pig who's fine seeing you make out with another woman but is too jealous and insecure himself to let you do anything with another man.

I have sex with/make out with/cuddle with/whatever my boy on a daily basis, and it doesn't make me any less dominant.  Besides, it's fun to get him nice and horny and then make him beg for my pussy. 


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RE: Sex with slaves? - 9/9/2008 9:59:05 AM   
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